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In reply to the discussion: White progressives’ racial myopia: Why their colorblindness fails minorities — and the left [View all]1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)93. Well ...
Why do people assign meaning to something that isn't there?
I would suggest that it is "not there" to you, because it is not a part of your experience.
I cannot fathom a white progressive pining for the good old days of FDR "AND" meaning that it be just as exclusive for POC/LGBT, etc as it was in so many respects.
Do you think those pining for the good old days of FDR are giving any consideration to PoC/LGBT, etc., at all in their rememberances, of that era? That is the point that is being made.
Let me give you a (maybe extreme) explain: imagine someone pining for 1922 Italy, when the trains ran on time ... it would not be difficult to understand that someone involved in labor in 1920s Italy would have a very different take 1920s Italy, despite the fact that the trains ran on time. Que, no?
When I pine for the Democrats to be more like FDR Dems....never in my wildest imagination do I intend that to be how you and others are taking it.
Can you honestly say that you give any thought to PoC/LGBT when you think of FDR Democrats? Those 1940s FDR Democrats were heavily, heavily tied to the klan. So while, much was accomplished in terms of economics "for everyone", those policies were developed and implemented in a racially discriminatory manner.
That is just so f'ing insulting at the very get go.
So is admiring the Coliseum lions, without acknowledging the the Christians and others, had a very different experience.
I voted for PBO twice, and would gladly do so again if it were allowed. What isn't ever acknowledged by anyone.
Thank you. Acknowledged. Now will you take a moment to try and see the good old days through different eyes?
These threads are infuriating because they assign wrongful intent to other people's words.
That is the POINT ... no one is assigning, or accusing, anyone of wrongful intent ... just romantic blindness!
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White progressives’ racial myopia: Why their colorblindness fails minorities — and the left [View all]
geek tragedy
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OP
Given that the article exerpt you provided contains at least one major historical inaccuracy
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#7
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#9
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Frederick Douglass said the same things about free Blacks and Irish immigrants back in the 1850s.
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#52
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#19
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The OP is what I am referring to, Cha..and good morning. Here she lends her opinion
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