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In reply to the discussion: If you decide to call someone a c***, you have no place here. [View all]Egnever
(21,506 posts)217. Only in that you should not be credited with coming up with it in the first place
Which is what so many seem intent on doing.
A hidden post would have been appropriate, a ban and pretending he was the one who came up with it is a farce.
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People will forgive and justify a lot if they "know" and like the person using the slur. nt.
LexVegas
Jun 2015
#1
OK, now what did NYC_SKP really say, precisely, and how is it any worse than
JDPriestly
Jun 2015
#71
Thare are people who dislike Hillary so they countenance use of the word.
DemocratSinceBirth
Jun 2015
#81
Here's a Bernie supporter speaking out on that.. and there was a Bernie supporter on the thread last
Cha
Jun 2015
#102
I was wondering what was going on. I agree: that was not necessary. And should not be permitted.
C Moon
Jun 2015
#131
You seem intent on ignoring the fact that he basically repeated what the other poster said
Egnever
Jun 2015
#196
So if I parrot someone hurling an offensive epithet my responsibility is mitigated, how?
DemocratSinceBirth
Jun 2015
#213
Only in that you should not be credited with coming up with it in the first place
Egnever
Jun 2015
#217
He did not repeat "word for word", that is my point. I have seen that claim and want to lay it to
uppityperson
Jun 2015
#376
"Feel the Bern." was the troll's name, hence the "Welcome to DU, Feel the Bern! "
uppityperson
Jun 2015
#382
Just for clarity you can see I reposted the original post he was responding to about 6 posts above
Egnever
Jun 2015
#379
As a staunch EFF supporter and English Lit. Major, I concur with your assessment.
TheBlackAdder
Jun 2015
#426
Regarding removing posts at banning, that is because the other was a newbie who was banned
uppityperson
Jun 2015
#372
I'm learning to do that too - and remember folks, IGNORE is your friend nt
LiberalElite
Jun 2015
#358
thank Goodness for the Bernie supporters who don't excuse this "cleverness" and don't want to be
Cha
Jun 2015
#205
It's not a new expression; I've known of it for decades. There was a movie of that name playing
NBachers
Jun 2015
#241
All that may be true, but it is not any more the C word than saying c*******t
JDPriestly
Jun 2015
#242
He did put it in his journal. I have no posts in my journal that I did not put there.
Cha
Jun 2015
#214
"Yes the same people Actually defending this would have found it unacceptable directed at Warren"
Cha
Jun 2015
#299
I don't understand why you would quote his response to the post before, but not the post before...
MrMickeysMom
Jun 2015
#364
You repeated everything I read, except for that "C" you claim, which he never used on her, Cha...
MrMickeysMom
Jun 2015
#368
You can call me out all you want.. it means nothing. Just because you want to excuse SKP for a
Cha
Jun 2015
#384
It's okay for you to say that, Cha… I recognize where it's coming from...
MrMickeysMom
Jun 2015
#406
You're calling EarlG a small-minded ninny? Not sure the Admins take too kindly to being called
seaglass
Jun 2015
#424
A misogynistic slur at Hillary Clinton is "childish"? Is that how you're dismissing his behavior?
Cha
Jun 2015
#397
"..but really is some of the dumbest fucking shit I've ever read on the internet." Juror #7
Cha
Jun 2015
#388
Are you trying to imply that you think NYC_SKP was targeted by admins for a different reason?
Electric Monk
Jun 2015
#59
Did he or did he not use a spoonerism to call a woman the c word?/NT
DemocratSinceBirth
Jun 2015
#96
He used a tongue twister but did not use the "c" word and I don't hink he actually
JDPriestly
Jun 2015
#106
I really don't think he used it to call anyone a c--t. I really don't think it was that
JDPriestly
Jun 2015
#161
I think I posted the orginal post for you. He did not use an expression to refer
JDPriestly
Jun 2015
#198
People also love to cower behind implication to better justify a sexist remark.
LanternWaste
Jun 2015
#337
It may be worse this time since the admins have clearly come out in favor of one candidate
davidpdx
Jun 2015
#305
He was trying to crack a joke. It was lame, but he should not have been banned.
JDPriestly
Jun 2015
#111
I don't hold any illusions NYC_SKP is permanently banned. Going to enjoy while it lasts though.
AtheistCrusader
Jun 2015
#410
If he had cracked a n****r joke about Obama would everyone still be okay with it?
beam me up scottie
Jun 2015
#125
If he had repeated a joke/referred to a racial slur about Obama would people be excusing it?
beam me up scottie
Jun 2015
#204
What I am learning is that we can traffic in the ugliest of slurs as long as they don't like ...
DemocratSinceBirth
Jun 2015
#223
Crack a Misogynistic "joke".. ? You're not doing Bernie or SKP any good. He needs to own it
Cha
Jun 2015
#393
Others have been banned and got back in. If SKP wants to try he's not going to be using the flimsy
Cha
Jun 2015
#396
He's my dad, not my "daddy." I'm not 5. I think you need to search my comments
ScreamingMeemie
Jun 2015
#333
Well NYC-SKP responded to another DU post with that phrase in it so it wasn't new to him. n/t
seaglass
Jun 2015
#269
Could you please post exactly what he said or e-mail me on DU with the wording.
JDPriestly
Jun 2015
#181
He did not use the tongue twister to refer to anyone, at worst to refer to Hillary's
JDPriestly
Jun 2015
#202
Is someone now trying to say he was Ignorant? 'Cause they're spinning their tops off coming up
Cha
Jun 2015
#394
Individual posts are a matter for juries, not hosts. Hosts only lock threads and block disruptors.
Electric Monk
Jun 2015
#84
It is not your group, it is not meant for you. How about you try not reading it, Mr delicate flower?
Electric Monk
Jun 2015
#109
Shrug. He blocked me for an OP I accidentally posted therein the middle of the night...
beevul
Jun 2015
#344
"... I've come to realize that most racist misogynist bullies in America are gunthusiasts too. "
beevul
Jun 2015
#347
Um, that's not a link to DU's GCRA group. In fact, I haven't even seen that link before. nt
Electric Monk
Jun 2015
#350
That seems to be a recurring theme. You're aware of someone using that word and not paying a price?
Buzz Clik
Jun 2015
#16
Does posting links to pages whose very existence is to use the word against a woman count?
cherokeeprogressive
Jun 2015
#66
With the jury system, there doesn't seem to be any standard that is"clear and consistently enforced"
kath
Jun 2015
#39
And whether or not that juror applies his/her dislike of the alerted upon.
ScreamingMeemie
Jun 2015
#133
I seriously try not to even look at the poster when I get called to a jury.
ScreamingMeemie
Jun 2015
#149
We don't ban words that are mean. We ban words that are slurs. There is an important difference
stevenleser
Jun 2015
#142
Calling someone "a tool" is not a slur. It's mean, but it's not a slur. This is not hard.
stevenleser
Jun 2015
#162
I made no excuse. I called it mean. It's still not the same thing as a slur.
stevenleser
Jun 2015
#252
Being mean and nasty is being mean and nasty. Can't get more basic than that.
marym625
Jun 2015
#318
She probably has better things to do than deal with your feigned ignorance on the subject. nt
stevenleser
Jun 2015
#164
Yes, bettyellen,they're spinning their tops off trying to excuse a Misogynistic slur against Hillary
Cha
Jun 2015
#398
Yep. I've seen people flailing and posting old PMs to prove other people were mean once too-
bettyellen
Jun 2015
#409
Well if they want old stuff of "being mean" then here's an OP of SKP's around the Sandyhook tragedy
Cha
Jun 2015
#411
What is it going to take to make people understand that he never used that offensive word?
GGJohn
Jun 2015
#101
He not only didn't use the c-word; his comment referred to "it": Hillary's speech/interview, not her
Petrushka
Jun 2015
#195
Might as well ask an African American person why they find the "n-word" "particularly heinous"
stevenleser
Jun 2015
#159
What makes the f word so offensive, the members of the Westboro Baptist Church use it all the time.
DemocratSinceBirth
Jun 2015
#199
You seem to think sexist or racist slurs are equivalent to words like "tool". Interesting take on
bettyellen
Jun 2015
#324
As I said before, the RW finds those who make excuses for sexism and racism quite useful.
bettyellen
Jun 2015
#327
I'm much more wary lately. And sorry it hurts your heart, Starry. You're one of the best. n/t
freshwest
Jun 2015
#64
Then admins have a job to do. Cleaning house of everyone who's ever used it.
ScreamingMeemie
Jun 2015
#11
It was used. It was covered by the thinnest of veils, but it was still used.
NuclearDem
Jun 2015
#26
That's not the same at all. Cunning stunt was read by many just as it is written.
Ed Suspicious
Jun 2015
#136
i don't have a dog in the fight but the word wasn't "used" only in the most narrow sense.
unblock
Jun 2015
#48
Frankly, applying the banhammer enforcement from this point on would do just fine
NuclearDem
Jun 2015
#17
What happened today was extreme in light of what's happened here in the past.
ScreamingMeemie
Jun 2015
#124
This is exactly what was said.. just not as clever as he thought.. If this were said about Elizabeth
Cha
Jun 2015
#33
As an Australian the word does not have the same shock value as in the states. Having said that...
BlueJazz
Jun 2015
#60
Cobber is good (mate) Wanker=depends on who's there. Only thing I've truly noticed..
BlueJazz
Jun 2015
#369
I find it really difficult to know what's what when it comes to all this...
Violet_Crumble
Jun 2015
#420
That is not what Skip did. Hw made a joke about the word, but he did not call anyone
JDPriestly
Jun 2015
#61
It's not the fault of the Bernie supporters if Hillary is not really doing as well as her
JDPriestly
Jun 2015
#221
Gee and I would have thought a single, 1000 post thread would have sufficed for satiety.
merrily
Jun 2015
#73
I'm going to admit to being a bit daft sometimes and it may be the result of being HoH...
Chan790
Jun 2015
#79
A notable difference in your joke is that there is not an individual woman tied to the implied slur
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2015
#311
I was raised and I taught my daughter that the N word was never to pass her lips for all the obvious
2banon
Jun 2015
#381
I finally saw it posted somewhere by someone who screen captured it (I guess?)
deurbano
Jun 2015
#383
Good Grief! Nobody was "instrumental in getting him banned" but himself. And, the Admin who did it
Cha
Jun 2015
#146
Let me guess, in school when you got a bad grade, you would say the teacher gave you that grade...
stevenleser
Jun 2015
#166
Yes, I've heard that excuse.. the banned troll made him do it. That's actually kind of insulting
Cha
Jun 2015
#243
but, but, I just read posts by some who claim women shouldn't be "shrinking violets", therefore not
still_one
Jun 2015
#207
It's pretty clear that "shrinking violets" are those who meekly accept not the ones who stand up for
seaglass
Jun 2015
#309
That's the elephant in the room that none of the people grave dancing want to see.
bluesbassman
Jun 2015
#258
It is an expression of hate pure and simple. As you said no different than a racial or ethnic slur,
still_one
Jun 2015
#228
On most boards these threads would be moved to the Ask The Administrator board./NT
DemocratSinceBirth
Jun 2015
#244
I was surprised to read NYC Skip, of all people, was banned over using that term
JonLP24
Jun 2015
#249
I would have thought a person that blames murder victims for being murdered had no place here
melman
Jun 2015
#271
Just wondering if you are as ardent in your objections in the real world as you are here?
notadmblnd
Jun 2015
#296
No. Precisely speaking, if one implies that one is a c*** then one obviously, has no place here.
Hiraeth
Jun 2015
#329
give me a break. have you heard about emotions running high. how about forgiveness?
samsingh
Jun 2015
#335
Okay, you linked to a post of mine where I call someone out for a derogatory slur.
NuclearDem
Jun 2015
#365
Wrong. Only NYC Skip has been banned for "cunning stunt." Many others have not.
Comrade Grumpy
Jun 2015
#380