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In reply to the discussion: The latest "banning" (NYC_SKP) is an interesting lesson on REPUTATION. [View all]DemocratSinceBirth
(99,706 posts)57. I know you didn't, Octafish.
The exact quote is on SKP's transparency page. You can not see the post he is referring to because it was a low post count troll who was immediately terminated though a mod posted the entire exchange.
The term is also in SKP's Journal...
I am not part of the banning party but It gives me agita when people argue that isn't what he said, albeit cleverly and circuitously.
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The latest "banning" (NYC_SKP) is an interesting lesson on REPUTATION. [View all]
IdaBriggs
Jun 2015
OP
It is my understanding a banned DUer can approach the Admins to request reinstatement.
MohRokTah
Jun 2015
#1
I doubt seriously if an admin would consider a reversal if the banned subject makes no request.
MohRokTah
Jun 2015
#248
So, he should feel remorse for saying something that did not warrant same?
MrMickeysMom
Jun 2015
#456
No he did not, and a vast majority of the WOMEN here on DU do not agree with this at all.
sabrina 1
Jun 2015
#621
I agree with you. A huge majority of members here are opposed to this banning. Regardless of the
sabrina 1
Jun 2015
#430
I remember writing directly to the owners about some guys who posted that they
roguevalley
Jun 2015
#299
NYC did not use that word. Just wanted to make that clear. Otherwise good post.
sabrina 1
Jun 2015
#447
I have seen worse posts from a few members over the years, which have resulted in a hide, but not an
R. Daneel Olivaw
Jun 2015
#520
I think the question does need to be answered. My email and PMs are filled with DUers who are asking
sabrina 1
Jun 2015
#633
You nailed it right on the head Sabrina. And i believe you answered your own question.
2banon
Jun 2015
#595
So what if the Admin support Hillary? It's their board.. they initiated it and kept it up and
Cha
Jun 2015
#597
A harsh reality of life. Bad judgment coupled with pissing off the wrong person: everything changes
Buzz Clik
Jun 2015
#39
Now, again, please type onto DU the exact wording of NYC_SKP's post and the post before it
JDPriestly
Jun 2015
#164
Amazing, isn't it? It makes you seriously wonder about people. How they can totally change overnight
sabrina 1
Jun 2015
#569
For some here, it's not really about issues, politicians, the party, or even politics
enigmatic
Jun 2015
#591
That's why I really do urge those who may have joined after 2008 to check the DU2 archives
enigmatic
Jun 2015
#614
That's one of the reasons why I prefer unmoderated forums. There's less inequality and selective
Chathamization
Jun 2015
#584
I was banned from two groups in two weeks, both were the same subject,,
orpupilofnature57
Jun 2015
#362
If people stopped answering my comments, I'd shut up. I just feel like I have to respond to all the
JDPriestly
Jun 2015
#369
He did not use the word. and his post is taken out of context. But as I said, I am not answering
JDPriestly
Jun 2015
#401
That word is demeaning to women. There are a thousand more clever, hidden ways to demean women.
JDPriestly
Jun 2015
#372
Its not that the word is demeaning to women, its that the user is demeaning women with that word...
marble falls
Jun 2015
#524
Thanks. It would never occur to me to talk or write certain words, but as I said in another post,
JDPriestly
Jun 2015
#366
I guess we had hoped that a progressive Dem forum would not be uncaring as to simply throw people
sabrina 1
Jun 2015
#172
I find your OP an extremely worthwhile read even as I disagree with you here in general
stevenleser
Jun 2015
#570
Please post in precise and verbatim terms NYC_SKP's prohibited post and the post before it.
JDPriestly
Jun 2015
#151
No use of the "c" word. No mention of Hillary in NYC_SKP's post. I can understand removing
JDPriestly
Jun 2015
#250
You've been taken aback by the strong push by the forum admins to support a Democratic Presidential
JTFrog
Jun 2015
#304
I think I explained why I consider her gender to be one of her strongest points
passiveporcupine
Jun 2015
#363
You don't think that being a woman is a strong point? I consider it to be as strong a point as
sabrina 1
Jun 2015
#586
Then why do so many people here get to stay after many violations? Either the rules apply to
sabrina 1
Jun 2015
#452
I will agree, DU is at it's worst, but I presume we have different reasons as to why that is.
boston bean
Jun 2015
#8
please...give it a rest with the misogyny. everyone knows that's not what's at issue here.
nashville_brook
Jun 2015
#11
If that is considered evidence of misogyny in your mind, that proves you have no idea what that
2banon
Jun 2015
#157
amen -- how can we expect problems of REAL misogyny to be taken seriously
nashville_brook
Jun 2015
#288
gladly -- the poster was judged by a separate and unequal standard than an HRC supporter
nashville_brook
Jun 2015
#295
I'm a Bernie supporter too, but I'm not sure you really know he was judged for not supporting HRC
whathehell
Jun 2015
#353
I deeply resent you speaking for me. I will speak as a woman. I've never met
boston bean
Jun 2015
#84
You have spoken for 'women' and I am stating the fact that you speak ONLY for yourself.
sabrina 1
Jun 2015
#132
And another personal attack! Stop speaking for me, that is what you were asked to do,
sabrina 1
Jun 2015
#156
What exactly is my personal attack. My pointing out that you writing that you are not
boston bean
Jun 2015
#167
No, actually, you responded to what you believe is important. Nothing in my post was addressed by
sabrina 1
Jun 2015
#368
Trivia, again you prove my point. Comments on the internet, I am repeating this because you seem to
sabrina 1
Jun 2015
#391
As I said, internet chit chat doesn't help women who have real issues. And another example of the
sabrina 1
Jun 2015
#420
Why on earth would I want to do that? No one was called that word. And frankly, here is what I am,
sabrina 1
Jun 2015
#395
I'm sorry that you find me more worthy of interest than the real issues facing women today. Your
sabrina 1
Jun 2015
#414
Yes, and women in all war torn areas of the world, where rape and abuse and death and poverty
sabrina 1
Jun 2015
#425
Well, you care and I care, and lots of DUers do care, but my point was that the women's forums here
sabrina 1
Jun 2015
#440
Thank you, good post. I agree that women are attacked here constantly for not
sabrina 1
Jun 2015
#223
Thank you, you have saved me the trouble of responding to a similar post that was directed to my
sabrina 1
Jun 2015
#545
Lol, that's a good way of putting it! Sort of like an imaginary friend! Or maybe, and imaginary
sabrina 1
Jun 2015
#632
Exactly. I have never put anyone on ignore, and with rare exceptions have generally been willing to
sabrina 1
Jun 2015
#491
You're not the only one pecwae, from what I have been hearing from other women here for a long time
sabrina 1
Jun 2015
#152
Excellent post and says it exactly the way it is. There are a few on DU that
A Simple Game
Jun 2015
#159
Thank you. In many ways it is the fault of women like me and so many others who told me they feel
sabrina 1
Jun 2015
#166
Why is it weak to stand up against slurs? Are just women weak when they say it's unacceptable or is
seaglass
Jun 2015
#227
THIS topic is about women. To react to every little perceived slur, 'perceived' is the operative
sabrina 1
Jun 2015
#240
This topic is about NYC_SKP getting banned but I get it if you don't want to expand your theory
seaglass
Jun 2015
#271
No, you don't get it, you don't get it at all. The game of using women for political purposes is
sabrina 1
Jun 2015
#329
The men and women in my life think calling a women a c*nt is disgusting and directly relates
seaglass
Jun 2015
#373
Many people, men, women, Bernie supporters, Hillary supporters, uncommitted do know what that
seaglass
Jun 2015
#548
You know Nadin, I've never been a big fan of yours- but I really got to give it to you here
notadmblnd
Jun 2015
#625
Very well said. Witnessing this is not my idea of how a liberal forum or group of any kind, should
sabrina 1
Jun 2015
#5
Yes, it is cruel. It's been an eye-opening situation though and sometimes we need to stop thinking
sabrina 1
Jun 2015
#404
What does this mean about the reputation of DU "if it could happen to him over ONE POST then it
leveymg
Jun 2015
#6
The 'bad word' he used was 'Cunning stunt". Frankly. I think the misogynistic police are absurd.
peacebird
Jun 2015
#35
This woman agrees with you also. I am happy to see so many women speaking out finally about the
sabrina 1
Jun 2015
#218
Editing reminder: the first word in that phrase has two syllables, not one. Obviously you know
tblue37
Jun 2015
#244
The alert on 'two words, one syllable each' was a different alert. I mentioned it to highlight the
peacebird
Jun 2015
#283
Ah, I see. Sorry. I just didn't want to see you jumped all over for something insignificant. nt
tblue37
Jun 2015
#293
Judging by the posts in this OP and subthread, it is clearly long since past the time
Bonobo
Jun 2015
#550
Agreed, and the hypersensitivity police really needs to look in the mirror nt
nadinbrzezinski
Jun 2015
#475
I was sure I would be alerted on and hidden. SO amazed and relieved to see the responses here!
peacebird
Jun 2015
#517
That's exactly how people are perceiving it, right or wrong, people are wondering if being a critic
sabrina 1
Jun 2015
#258
Well I think we need clarification on this. I certainly don't want to waste time on a site that is
sabrina 1
Jun 2015
#450
No, he did not. And this was NOT a 'misogynist' attack on anyone. And if that is why this happened
sabrina 1
Jun 2015
#534
I oppose the ban but there is nothing liberal about calling a woman a c--t...
DemocratSinceBirth
Jun 2015
#10
I am being 100% candid. Of course you can think I'm not being candid but I really am...
DemocratSinceBirth
Jun 2015
#36
THAT IS NOT QUITE RIGHT. "Feel the Bern." was the troll's name, NOT what they wrote
uppityperson
Jun 2015
#602
So the actual word has been used in 1,180 posts on DU, and allowed to remain without deletion?
2banon
Jun 2015
#204
Not quite. Searching for a word pulls up not just the post with the word, but often posts on either
uppityperson
Jun 2015
#604
I would like to think I would be similarly offended if he wrote that about somebody I didn't like.
DemocratSinceBirth
Jun 2015
#222
So you believe that people's reaction depends on their position in the nomination fight.
Jim Lane
Jun 2015
#496
All I can say is I knew immediately what he was referring to and googled "Cunning Stunt'" verbatim
DemocratSinceBirth
Jun 2015
#66
Thank you. I feel the same and I can't help but wonder if those up in arms about the banning
whathehell
Jun 2015
#114
This whole speech is so very opposite of SKP's own views regarding provocative speech made by
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2015
#13
Folks need to find a set of principles and stick to them even when it's inconvenient./NT
DemocratSinceBirth
Jun 2015
#15
So the guy who was most adament that all insulting speech should be met with strong reaction is also
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2015
#46
agree or disagree w/NYC_SKP, the board's owners have the right to banish, but that doesn't make it
magical thyme
Jun 2015
#198
Care to speak to NYC_SKP's clearly stated views about those who employ insulting or provocative
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2015
#519
This is a discussion board. All members are entitled to discuss their opinions.
magical thyme
Jun 2015
#590
I am an artist and I had a long spate of being threatened by racists who were offended at some
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2015
#302
The exchange, to me, sounds more directed at the troll. I think he made a poor choice
blm
Jun 2015
#528
Is he claiming that his huge hypocrisy is symptomatic? No, you are and you do so as a way to avoid
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2015
#357
People who use a slur toward others are to blame for that, the target of the slur is not to blame.
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2015
#23
Is that what I said? No it's not. Why not address what I said? Too much for you?
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2015
#32
Exactly. The divide here falls among those who will excuse sexism in all forms...
bettyellen
Jun 2015
#61
Hillary made someone insult her with a sexist slur? WTF? Victim blame much?
uppityperson
Jun 2015
#313
There are two really important points here (since we changed the subject slightly):
Buzz Clik
Jun 2015
#121
Given that on the larger scale this place is meaningless anyway, the same is true of anyone
Fumesucker
Jun 2015
#118
"Hate" is a bit harsh, but, most recently, he certainly had little regard for his targets.
Buzz Clik
Jun 2015
#38
Yep. I guess the site's got enough eyeballs on ads that they can tell users to get lost.
Jester Messiah
Jun 2015
#434
He espoused very clear views about people who use insulting or denigrating
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2015
#56
Like so many others on DU, I have never found it difficult to refrain from attacking
tblue37
Jun 2015
#264
JFC, he's not the first long-timer with lots of friends and non-friends here to get the ban hammer.
PeaceNikki
Jun 2015
#47
If one of my very good friends came to a party at my house and called Obama an N-word
alcibiades_mystery
Jun 2015
#50
The OP is trying to claim that NYCS was defending Hillary's honor from a troll or something.
PeaceNikki
Jun 2015
#69
Well after realizing what it meant to be literally silenced and not just figuratively silenced
Horse with no Name
Jun 2015
#422
Ida--good post. Here's what I tried to post three different times, but
BlancheSplanchnik
Jun 2015
#55
Thank you for posting this. But I will not join the discussion - after all - who is next?
jwirr
Jun 2015
#68
There appears to be a certain segment of people who do not desire liberalism to thrive
LiberalArkie
Jun 2015
#72
"Do you think after President Obama's term is over that a real Liberal black man can be elected?"
sufrommich
Jun 2015
#137
i'm a strong Hillary supporter, but i'm beside myself trying to understand or accept the ban
samsingh
Jun 2015
#85
According to my profile, I've been here just over two years. I'm shocked.
Half-Century Man
Jun 2015
#89
I am fortunate enough to be able to interact with him outside of here as well
Horse with no Name
Jun 2015
#90
Do you remember the first time you heard the words bastard, bitch, and ass used
valerief
Jun 2015
#93
Yes, my wordplay to a previous post where I referenced a prominent Republican.
valerief
Jun 2015
#212
Wanna keep a good reputation.. Don't call a woman a "c*nt"... that would be my advice to all
boston bean
Jun 2015
#97
Exactly. It's as simple as that and had the slur been about race or sexual orientation
whathehell
Jun 2015
#129
There should some control in one's life which would dictate words used are only meant to be
Thinkingabout
Jun 2015
#105
He was a strong advocate of the 2nd Amendment and a vocal opponent of the Democrat front runner
tularetom
Jun 2015
#109
"He did a stupid thing and got his ass in a sling"? No, he did an ugly, bigoted thing and got
whathehell
Jun 2015
#160
I feel the same way about his banning as I do about America's judicial system and policing.
Gregorian
Jun 2015
#120
Thank you. I believe banishment was ham handed and I hope it will be reconsidered.
corkhead
Jun 2015
#126
some have pointed out that the context is missing because he was responding to a post we can't see
corkhead
Jun 2015
#199
You are still here and have much support... So, I'm not sure what you are concerned about.
boston bean
Jun 2015
#149
I agree with the interpretation, which was confirmed in our phone conversation.
IdaBriggs
Jun 2015
#161
Speaking as a Woman who has suffered a life time of abuse, and as an early Feminist Activist,
2banon
Jun 2015
#221
So true, and I am sure Skinner will do it again. I suggest everyone be careful. nt
Logical
Jun 2015
#328
Quite true, and all criticism of Mrs. Clinton will be classified as misogynistic and woman-hating
Doctor_J
Jun 2015
#386
If a Hillary supporter called a woman a c--t I would tell him he is trash and that's a fact.
DemocratSinceBirth
Jun 2015
#446
If a loyal Hillary supporter had made the same remark in the same context about, say, Warren...
Marr
Jun 2015
#557
In the 1,000 + post thread on this topic I was the first to say it's a shame ...
DemocratSinceBirth
Jun 2015
#566
KnR. Excellent post. BTW, another OP pointed out that NYC_SKP has had several brain surgeries and
tblue37
Jun 2015
#228
Admins used a sledgehammer instead of a surgical knife in dealing with skip.
Dont call me Shirley
Jun 2015
#235
Fair enough post of this topic. NYC SKP should be given a chance to go and sin no more.
marble falls
Jun 2015
#290
Funny thing about banning. I saved you from a ban twice when you first signed up
OKNancy
Jun 2015
#298
The moderator hot tub was kick-ass for helping put thing into perspective...
Cooley Hurd
Jun 2015
#336
You do realize we're talking about the same admins that allowed pro-Prop 8 ads in 2008 right?
MadDAsHell
Jun 2015
#634
"Who is going to bring more ad-views to DU, Hillary or Bernie?" Why does it have to be an either or
Cha
Jun 2015
#612
Oh, and "..they've found a way to make money off of all of us." It's not like we haven't gotten
Cha
Jun 2015
#615
Do you honestly believe that word is identified with Bernie Sanders and his supporters?
2banon
Jun 2015
#567
Aloha Ida, I'm friends with SKP on FB, too.. been friendly for years because he's a fellow
Cha
Jun 2015
#507
Thank you for reading it, Cali.. yeah, his "over the top" got him banned and those making excuses
Cha
Jun 2015
#618
The linking of bigotry to a lack of support for a "minority" candidate is not new.
tymorial
Jun 2015
#560
Yes, this is actually in play currently. I will no doubt be accused of a "self loathing Woman" for
2banon
Jun 2015
#564
The politically convenient use of "racist", "sexist", and other buzz words is indeed a monster...
MadDAsHell
Jun 2015
#622