I Cannot Say Sternly Enough... I TOLD YA Soooo! (Reply #160)

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Thu Jun 18, 2015, 10:20 PM

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160. I Cannot Say Sternly Enough... I TOLD YA Soooo!

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Congratulations, President Obama. Looks like you've got your trade agreements for [View all]	cali	Jun 2015	OP
Agree with you wholeheartedly.	djean111	Jun 2015	#1
...	rbnyc	Jun 2015	#132
Sick Of These Jerks	billhicks76	Jun 2015	#189
Hell yes....	daleanime	Jun 2015	#2
One more step to a global economy and government	Angry Dragon	Jun 2015	#3
Not quite yet.	jeff47	Jun 2015	#4
yeah, I know. I'm not exactly going out on a limb by predicting that	cali	Jun 2015	#10
And more work for us. I already emailed my Senators.	jwirr	Jun 2015	#31
Bernie Sanders just said, it still has to go to the Senate and they can stop	Cleita	Jun 2015	#5
41. nt	Flying Squirrel	Jun 2015	#47
Obama makes Bush look like an amateur in terms of being able to con the people	AZ Progressive	Jun 2015	#6
You got it right.	840high	Jun 2015	#26
Obama -- another corporate shill.	JDPriestly	Jun 2015	#90
Nothing New... I Called Him For THE Corporatist Lackey That He IS... in 2007!!!	CorporatistNation	Jun 2015	#154
It makes Obama more evil...	Rockyj	Jun 2015	#204
It's almost as if Obama wants to set up the United States for total failure	fasttense	Jun 2015	#205
Clinton is now officially trapped in a Catch-22 situation	Jumpin Jack Flash	Jun 2015	#7
No she's not. All she has to do is continue with the vague talking out of both	cali	Jun 2015	#12
I disagree, Cali	Jack Rabbit	Jun 2015	#67
But look what happened, instead. An Obama cabinet stuffed by Clinton.	delrem	Jun 2015	#166
her worshippers think that saying nothing is bold leadership	Doctor_J	Jun 2015	#82
Perfectly Delivered...	CorporatistNation	Jun 2015	#157
^^^ THIS ^^^	cantbeserious	Jun 2015	#164
And get ready for more of the same if she wins.	AngryOldDem	Jun 2015	#190
Are there 60 votes for it in the Senate? nt	geek tragedy	Jun 2015	#8
I think so unless you call your senators and beg them to vote NO.	Cleita	Jun 2015	#16
There were not on the previous attempt to pass a TPA-only bill.	jeff47	Jun 2015	#19
they'll probably tie it the Africa trade agreements to squeeze the CBC nt	geek tragedy	Jun 2015	#20
That would require another TPA vote in the House.	jeff47	Jun 2015	#24
They should be reminded that the Africa Trade agreement perhaps can be done at a later date...	cascadiance	Jun 2015	#46
They already did	Mnpaul	Jun 2015	#158
But how does that shift votes in the Senate	rpannier	Jun 2015	#180
I dunno. nt	geek tragedy	Jun 2015	#203
Thanks for the clear explanation of this. n/t	delrem	Jun 2015	#171
And people wonder how Walmart is able to hide $76 billion in overseas tax havens?	kentuck	Jun 2015	#9
Planet Sweatshop	Octafish	Jun 2015	#89
Walmart expanded to other countries. Over 2,200 retail locs in Mexico alone & even Walmart Banks.	Sunlei	Jun 2015	#128
Nor from other countries sweatshops and slave labor supplies. n/t	delrem	Jun 2015	#172
But the USA should expect "revenue" from products brought back and sold in this country...	kentuck	Jun 2015	#193
a tariff? The state collects revenue in sales tax, property tax and employee taxes.	Sunlei	Jun 2015	#201
He deserves the same authority granted to every president before him.	JaneyVee	Jun 2015	#11
sorry i didnt see that in the constitution - where is that written?	Romeo.lima333	Jun 2015	#13
so do repuke presidents, right? And there may be a repuke in the WH after him	cali	Jun 2015	#15
No, Republicans no longer have that privilege.	JaneyVee	Jun 2015	#17
Lol	whatchamacallit	Jun 2015	#23
Yeah because when Republicans are proven incompetent they	Autumn	Jun 2015	#40
Hell, "incompetence" is one of the requirements for being a Republican president	Art_from_Ark	Jun 2015	#134
Guess what....	JaneyVee	Jun 2015	#54
that has not been true in the past	cali	Jun 2015	#75
Standards that are not enforced are pretty-much the same as NO standards, yes?	Buns_of_Fire	Jun 2015	#97
As opposed to existing, but unenforced labor and environmental standards	hatrack	Jun 2015	#151
You celebrating the victory of Boehner and McConnell? This is a huge blow for	rhett o rick	Jun 2015	#145
Do you grasp that TPA extends his presidency? and with his record of betraying	cali	Jun 2015	#25
I don't care?	JaneyVee	Jun 2015	#52
you clearly care more for giving the president what he wants	cali	Jun 2015	#69
Republicans will pass future trade deals without labor/enviro standards....	JaneyVee	Jun 2015	#74
Wong again. for political reasons, they incorporate high standards. Have in the past	cali	Jun 2015	#79
Correct, as far as I've read. I see protections for investment capital.	delrem	Jun 2015	#179
Free Trade	turbinetree	Jun 2015	#127
a good and on the mark rant it is :P. you didn't mention airline parts made in china	Sunlei	Jun 2015	#202
Do you think Republicans are going to let him be president for six years rather than two years?	cascadiance	Jun 2015	#28
That's why we should pass deals with labor and enviro standards.....	JaneyVee	Jun 2015	#56
You want these "standards" to be drawn up in secret primarily by corporate leaders?	cascadiance	Jun 2015	#66
This isn't a vote for the trade deal.	JaneyVee	Jun 2015	#71
You are right, it is a vote for tthe TPP before the vote is taken...	cascadiance	Jun 2015	#76
Essentially it is. It makes it harder to stop it from being ram-rodded thru Congress.	rhett o rick	Jun 2015	#208
Why don't you reassure us, Janey.	bvar22	Jun 2015	#88
By the way, the labor unions are against this POS. Also environmentalists and Doctors Without	rhett o rick	Jun 2015	#142
TPP may be the biggest gift ever handed to the 1% by our politicians.	bvar22	Jun 2015	#207
Well Said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!	CorporatistNation	Jun 2015	#155
Oh please...	840high	Jun 2015	#29
If this passes the senate Republicans WILL have that privilege	Autumn	Jun 2015	#34
a demonstration of the politics of personality	cali	Jun 2015	#38
That statement blew my mind	Autumn	Jun 2015	#42
Post removed	Post removed	Jun 2015	#61
^^^THAT^^^	onecaliberal	Jun 2015	#94
Do you really think Repubs will include labor and enviro standards?	JaneyVee	Jun 2015	#58
Do you really think Obama is the only President who will use this ?	Autumn	Jun 2015	#60
Which is exactly why we need labor /enviro standards.	JaneyVee	Jun 2015	#64
You think a republican congress will not approve fast track for Jeb	pampango	Jun 2015	#110
I think dems have a solid chance of taking back the Senate, don't you?	cali	Jun 2015	#194
Sure. But not in a scenario in which Jeb is elected president.	pampango	Jun 2015	#210
Obama has been proven incompetent. His administration has done a horrible job	cali	Jun 2015	#65
Write him a letter. Go ahead.	JaneyVee	Jun 2015	#68
Mocking us because you know he won't listen to anything we have to say , , ,	markpkessinger	Jun 2015	#195
It's a variation on a theme: "My President, right or.... more right"	cali	Jun 2015	#199
He has done an even worse job at negotiating deals	AgingAmerican	Jun 2015	#183
You mean the Republicans that Obama is relying on to pass this piece of shit? n/t	Oilwellian	Jun 2015	#98
This has to be a parody n/t	arcane1	Jun 2015	#104
Where is your sarcasm thingy.	mindem	Jun 2015	#105
What do you do for a living?	grahamhgreen	Jun 2015	#106
writes comedy, obviously	Doctor_J	Jun 2015	#120
No he doesn't. And, the other Presidents shouldn't have had it either.	stillwaiting	Jun 2015	#85
+ 1	rbnyc	Jun 2015	#138
Paul Ryan already tacked on a rider to the TPP to deregulate Air Quality Standards even more. This	DhhD	Jun 2015	#153
I agree with you 100%.	Sunlei	Jun 2015	#126
You agree with this decision that the Republicons supported? This decision that will have	rhett o rick	Jun 2015	#146
None of them deserved the authority!	rbnyc	Jun 2015	#136
He is abusing that authority, that's the problem. The corporations love it and	rhett o rick	Jun 2015	#141
I thought I read yesterday that Obama had said w/out TAA he would veto it.	magical thyme	Jun 2015	#14
Change that... my bad...	stevenleser	Jun 2015	#27
They got the whole enchilada...	kentuck	Jun 2015	#30
Yeah. It's not hard to see what is going to happen here.	stevenleser	Jun 2015	#33
Republicans love this bill...	kentuck	Jun 2015	#39
NO! The article did NOT say that the TAA was passed here...	cascadiance	Jun 2015	#36
Right, I changed the post. Agreed on all counts. nt	stevenleser	Jun 2015	#43
I wonder what this self-described Republican has in store for us next.	Broward	Jun 2015	#18
Terrible terrible things He has planned, the fascist GOP plans pale by comparison.....!?	Fred Sanders	Jun 2015	#49
What a day for Pres Obama, John Boehner, and Corp-America.	rhett o rick	Jun 2015	#144
By the way, you know the Republicons are working hand in hand with him on the TPP?	rhett o rick	Jun 2015	#147
Simple rule...	kentuck	Jun 2015	#21
What if the majority of republicans (in the base) oppose it and the majority of Democrats	pampango	Jun 2015	#112
That's why our corporate masters love to have their policies pushed by Dems	dreamnightwind	Jun 2015	#121
Democrats have historically been more supportive of trade agreements than republicans	pampango	Jun 2015	#130
Yes, times have changed	dreamnightwind	Jun 2015	#133
Right v Left is Dead	demwing	Jun 2015	#140
Obama, your present "friends" leave a lot to be desired!	cascadiance	Jun 2015	#22
They are also his	840high	Jun 2015	#32
and you wonder why so many people take anti depressants ?	olddots	Jun 2015	#35
Yah, but antidepressants don't work for this kind of downer. Sorreeeee!	delrem	Jun 2015	#178
If TPP passes, it means US taxpayers will be paying corporations for environmental laws.	leveymg	Jun 2015	#37
It doesn't change the rules, it just considerably expands the number of multinationals	cali	Jun 2015	#44
I understood TPP will now allow investors to go directly to international tribunals	leveymg	Jun 2015	#99
No. That is absolutely incorrect. Within the WTO, it's state to state but in many,many	cali	Jun 2015	#107
The investor-state chart references NAFTA cases. NAFTA is a state-to-state treaty with disputes	leveymg	Jun 2015	#111
oh for pity's sake. read this and get back to me	cali	Jun 2015	#113
No, you don't understand. That's part of our problem.	Hoyt	Jun 2015	#108
Here's what I understand, and please provide a source that shows this is incorrect:	leveymg	Jun 2015	#114
Read Cali's explanation. If you look at the title of past suits, it's XYX Inc. v Mexico.	Hoyt	Jun 2015	#116
oh, I understand.	cali	Jun 2015	#115
Surprised the hell out of me.	Hoyt	Jun 2015	#117
It shouldn't. I've demonstrated repeatedly that I'm better versed in this than you	cali	Jun 2015	#118
There's the junk I expect.	Hoyt	Jun 2015	#119
If so goody, goody, goody for investors - the 1%ers, what tribuna evel listens to workers?	marble falls	Jun 2015	#163
Keystone will either be brought back or American taxpayer will pay HEAVILY for it...	cascadiance	Jun 2015	#45
I agree that TPP potentially impacts future laws and regs re: Keystone and Net Neutrality.	leveymg	Jun 2015	#101
If we allowed/encouraged a foreign company to build the pipeline, and said sorry we changed	Hoyt	Jun 2015	#109
You Need to Inform Hillary...	CorporatistNation	Jun 2015	#156
"But this is going to be a big issue in the democratic primary and beyond." This better be.	PufPuf23	Jun 2015	#41
Will Democratic voters learn from this? I guess we'll find out with Bernie vs. Hillary	fbc	Jun 2015	#48
I hope so...but I highly doubt it...	truebrit71	Jun 2015	#51
Sucks!!	lark	Jun 2015	#50
Should be changed to the same headline from yesterday "Obama and his republican allies"...	truebrit71	Jun 2015	#53
watch out - if you post that, you get piled onto by the usual suspects....	NRaleighLiberal	Jun 2015	#63
Yeah, the TOS rules lawyers...	Efilroft Sul	Jun 2015	#73
nouveau 1%ers are the worst.	elehhhhna	Jun 2015	#55
K&R! This post deserves hundreds of recommendations!	Enthusiast	Jun 2015	#57
So after 7 years, Obama finally channels his inner LBJ to twist Dems arms for this stupid deal	tularetom	Jun 2015	#59
We were told we'd see the 'real Obama' in his second term. . .	markpkessinger	Jun 2015	#192
TPA Added to	asiliveandbreathe	Jun 2015	#62
Who said that bipartisanship is dead? (nt)	Nye Bevan	Jun 2015	#70
Non of my representatives from the entire state voted for fast-track, I will call to thank them	Dont call me Shirley	Jun 2015	#72
the "defeat" was theatre	Doctor_J	Jun 2015	#77
So what do we do with a lame duck Republican POTUS in control of both houses?	Omaha Steve	Jun 2015	#78
Hopefully the Sanders coalition in the Senate can hold off the worst of it	Doctor_J	Jun 2015	#124
What would be fascinating is if this rips China a big one, like it is predicted, and then they	jtuck004	Jun 2015	#80
Traitorous.	RiverLover	Jun 2015	#81
It won't be possible to forget about it, the consequences of this will take many forms.	Jefferson23	Jun 2015	#83
what has worried me	heaven05	Jun 2015	#84
Poisoned legacy...	JCMach1	Jun 2015	#86
He's lost my support.	SoapBox	Jun 2015	#87
Local reaction from labor was all but unexpected	nadinbrzezinski	Jun 2015	#91
I wash my hands of this President. I'm sorry he got my vote 3 times.	Ed Suspicious	Jun 2015	#92
No more third way votes for me. If a candidate wants my vote you had better earn it.	Ed Suspicious	Jun 2015	#93
Fill in the Blank	turbinetree	Jun 2015	#95
I repeat the call for a mass campaign of civil disobedience against the oligarchs	Jack Rabbit	Jun 2015	#96
+1,000 n/t	Admiral Loinpresser	Jun 2015	#169
Debbie Wasserman-Schultz votes with Republicans, for TPA. Past time to show her the door.	seafan	Jun 2015	#100
I will be voting against her. If you look at this New Democrat Coalition -	djean111	Jun 2015	#103
I love you, Cali ...	Trajan	Jun 2015	#102
^^^^^WORD^^^^^!!!!!	haikugal	Jun 2015	#125
embarrassed thank you	cali	Jun 2015	#129
+1 nt	raouldukelives	Jun 2015	#198
Damn, this sucks. - eom	dreamnightwind	Jun 2015	#122
No it's pretty much a defining issue . No sleaze bag can sell it us to screw	mmonk	Jun 2015	#123
There's NO HOPE NO CHANGE. The OLIGARCH WINS.	YOHABLO	Jun 2015	#131
Hope and Change played better in focus groups ...	GeorgeGist	Jun 2015	#184
it does still go back to the Senate right?	rbnyc	Jun 2015	#135
We were royally had in '08 and this is proof. Here's your legacy sir.	hifiguy	Jun 2015	#137
What was the old defense?	Phlem	Jun 2015	#139
And don't forget . . .	markpkessinger	Jun 2015	#196
Gee,	world wide wally	Jun 2015	#143
Does anyone know whether	Admiral Loinpresser	Jun 2015	#148
Something very drastic is going to happen in the future because of this incredible	Baitball Blogger	Jun 2015	#149
So as our only hope is now his negotiating skills, but he not a good negotiator..	Nobel_Twaddle_III	Jun 2015	#150
What ever good will Obama had with me is now completely gone....In many ways I will loathe...	yourout	Jun 2015	#152
So the TPP is worse than the Iraq war and destruction	geek tragedy	Jun 2015	#159
I expected destruction when Bush was elected. Did not think Obama would...	yourout	Jun 2015	#161
No it doesn't. But we should keep perspective. nt	geek tragedy	Jun 2015	#162
My perspective includes the surge in Afghanistan.	Admiral Loinpresser	Jun 2015	#168
I Cannot Say Sternly Enough... I TOLD YA Soooo!	CorporatistNation	Jun 2015	#160
It proves that Obama knows how to fight, and win, when he wants. n/t	delrem	Jun 2015	#165
Wish he'd fought for health care. n/t	Admiral Loinpresser	Jun 2015	#167
He didn't want universal health care. He wanted something corporate friendly, with a smiley face.	delrem	Jun 2015	#170
Yep. Plus giving it to Baucus	Admiral Loinpresser	Jun 2015	#175
It was immediate.	delrem	Jun 2015	#177
It's still got a long way to go, and he'd already won this round once,	ucrdem	Jun 2015	#173
I don't think JaneyVee should've been hidden.	delrem	Jun 2015	#174
Careful, you'll be meta-reamed. n/t	Admiral Loinpresser	Jun 2015	#176
As a contingency	Aerows	Jun 2015	#181
I didn't vote for him the first time	Gloria	Jun 2015	#182
I wish I hadn't been right	Blue_In_AK	Jun 2015	#185
Obama's showing of his true family seems far worse than Rachel Dolezal revealing hers...	cascadiance	Jun 2015	#186
Du rec	Jesus Malverde	Jun 2015	#187
My fear is that	JackInGreen	Jun 2015	#188
I share that fear. We are all well boiled frogs now.	cali	Jun 2015	#197
K&R.	AngryOldDem	Jun 2015	#191
And it is this slide into the maelstrom that leads to our national tragedies.	raouldukelives	Jun 2015	#200
What I learned on DU today: you are a Nazi if you oppose NAFTA	closeupready	Jun 2015	#206
Nazis didn't do trade agreements. They were big on autarky. Doesn't make everyone who opposes	pampango	Jun 2015	#211
yep, Congrats....	blackspade	Jun 2015	#209

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