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merrily

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69. If you thought my post said nothing salacious or obscene is protected, then you misread
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 08:51 PM
Jun 2015

my post. In any event, I used porn and obscenity only as an example of how courts draw lines.

This flag in Virginia needs to go as well. [View all] Joe the Revelator Jun 2015 OP
Here is their website Joe the Revelator Jun 2015 #1
God - they're still fighting the war LiberalElite Jun 2015 #26
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And the 1st amendment? Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2015 #6
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Incitement to what? N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2015 #17
Imminent lawless action. Read up on it. NuclearDem Jun 2015 #50
So speech that pisses someone off to the point of violence is bannable. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #54
No, speech that could reasonably provoke imminent lawless action is. NuclearDem Jun 2015 #71
Again, this is a ridiculous argument. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #73
Um... NuclearDem Jun 2015 #75
Right, and in practical terms, when is the last time someone was prosecuted for "incitement"? Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #77
There's a kid in Baltimore being prosecuted for incitement to riot right now. NuclearDem Jun 2015 #82
And here's a perfect example of how that stuff can be easily misused by folks with an agenda. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #83
Oh God, Not This Shit Again. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #52
What other types of speech would you like to criminalize? tritsofme Jun 2015 #8
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And who gets to decide what is "hatemongering"? What types of speech get criminalized? tritsofme Jun 2015 #15
It's disconcerting how many people on DU seem to think the 1st Amendment is a big problem. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #59
Yep shenmue Jun 2015 #3
I give a damn if it's on private property. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2015 #4
If its done to incite people (putting it directly over I-95 on the way to washington) Joe the Revelator Jun 2015 #9
Disagree madville Jun 2015 #16
Incite people to what? Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2015 #20
This fucking "incitement" argument. No one seems to realize that the asshole who shot up the church Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #56
THIS ISN'T GERMANY!!! davidn3600 Jun 2015 #65
Aid and comfort to the enemy. Private property or not. merrily Jun 2015 #5
I marched against the Vietnam War along side folks carrying the flag of North Vietnam onenote Jun 2015 #29
It's not the same. For one thing, in which part of North Vietnam were you marching? merrily Jun 2015 #32
Apart from worrying about my syntax, care to explain how it differs? onenote Jun 2015 #34
Huh? Who's worrying about syntax? merrily Jun 2015 #41
Here's one way: onenote Jun 2015 #53
Thanks for the link HassleCat Jun 2015 #7
There used to be one that big on the main freeway from Central California into Los Angeles. . . Journeyman Jun 2015 #11
Tragedy often popularizes authoritarian ideas such as yours. tritsofme Jun 2015 #13
I did some reasearch and it would appear that the SCOTUS agrees with you Joe the Revelator Jun 2015 #19
The First Amendment is tough. tritsofme Jun 2015 #23
The SCOTUS, being as RW as it is, would probably protect it. merrily Jun 2015 #37
It would likely be a unanimous decision, if it ever got that far. tritsofme Jun 2015 #38
Joke about terrorism in an airport or on a plane? merrily Jun 2015 #39
Threats have never been protected speech. tritsofme Jun 2015 #43
I said joke. merrily Jun 2015 #44
After the Elonis decision this year I'm not so sure the government would prevail in that sort of tritsofme Jun 2015 #45
I said I didn't think hate speech should be protected. merrily Jun 2015 #46
There is no universal definition to hate speech, that is the problem. tritsofme Jun 2015 #47
there is no universal definiton for any kind of protected speech or unprotected speech merrily Jun 2015 #49
The trend has been toward liberalization of standards tritsofme Jun 2015 #60
Porn isnt protected speech? There's a 10 Billion dollar a year industry that disagrees. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #68
If you thought my post said nothing salacious or obscene is protected, then you misread merrily Jun 2015 #69
And yet, it's an excellent example because the court pretty much doesn't draw lines, anymore. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #70
Of course the court draws lines on speech all the time, even though it finally left porn in merrily Jun 2015 #72
where? Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #74
Please reply to what I post and not to things I didn't post. I did not post that merrily Jun 2015 #76
I understand. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #78
Yes people differ on what is hate speech, just as some differ on whether certain words amount merrily Jun 2015 #81
I tend to side with the ACLU on questions pertaining to the 1st Amendment. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #84
I am usually on the side of the ACLU as well, and proudly so. BTW, the ACLU gives Sanders a 100% merrily Jun 2015 #85
Thats what got us the PATRIOT act Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #24
I fly the Confederate Flag..kinda' BlueJazz Jun 2015 #14
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And that, too, is protected speech. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #58
Your words are true. I certainly don't particularly like the Confederate flag but you know what? BlueJazz Jun 2015 #62
Beyond not liking... I can certainly understand how it is a symbol, analogous to African Americans, Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #66
People just want to try to fix things. Their actions, to them, would somehow make life.. BlueJazz Jun 2015 #67
I have to support their right to fly it. Throd Jun 2015 #21
Stupid idea Travis_0004 Jun 2015 #22
Confederate flags need to be banned or if not then shredded Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2015 #25
There's one that is (or was, haven't been past for a while) flown along I 75 in the Tampa area... A HERETIC I AM Jun 2015 #27
If it's on private property, it's protected by the 1st amendment of our Constitution. roamer65 Jun 2015 #28
Museums? What else should be banned from museums? onenote Jun 2015 #30
Why should I have to pay tax dollars to have it displayed? roamer65 Jun 2015 #33
Lamest argument ever. onenote Jun 2015 #35
Got one on your front lawn? roamer65 Jun 2015 #36
So you want to erase history. Throd Jun 2015 #42
Hell...I'll go a step further...we ended Reconstruction way too soon. roamer65 Jun 2015 #48
Nope. Nothing on my front lawn. Do you burn books on yours? onenote Jun 2015 #51
I have to drive past that flag all the time and it makes me angry inside every time. tarheelsunc Jun 2015 #31
I would go after the official Mississippi state flag struggle4progress Jun 2015 #40
You are right, do you think this would be better... Kalidurga Jun 2015 #61
I'd personally go with what lost the non-binding referendum in 2001: struggle4progress Jun 2015 #63
It's obnoxious and offensive Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #55
Not sure I want the government taking action on private property. nt Logical Jun 2015 #57
It's private property by private individuals/organizations davidn3600 Jun 2015 #64
Should include this, too: Fawke Em Jun 2015 #79
this is an embarrassment too...nashville, tn spanone Jun 2015 #80
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