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We have no chance until we wrest the party from the Third Way corporatists. Broward Jun 2015 #1
what willyt said. 1 trillion percent. roguevalley Jun 2015 #40
Second that. LoisB Jun 2015 #61
AGREED! Rockyj Jun 2015 #118
Yes, I will work & vote only for progressive Democrats. Not for corporatists. Not for DLC/3rd Wayers peacebird Jun 2015 #269
Thom Hartmann.... zentrum Jun 2015 #84
"us"? George II Jun 2015 #144
Well, maybe not you... PatrickforO Jun 2015 #194
Certainly not him. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #197
He also says you MUST vote for WHOEVER the Dem candidate is so as to cause the least harm WHILE randys1 Jun 2015 #277
You are forgetting something else, its called the Republican Party. cstanleytech Jun 2015 #104
Well, Obama is getting shit done really well now. Ed Suspicious Jun 2015 #113
Good luck with that as the patient is suffering from both internal bleeding cstanleytech Jun 2015 #132
Yes. Same results from being stabbed in the chest and stabbed in the back. HooptieWagon Jun 2015 #251
That's true, which is why in the last two mid terms voters did NOT come out for Third Way/DLC sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #133
Yes and the media ignored the fact emsimon33 Jun 2015 #219
We MUST take our party back from all the Third Way, Corporatist, Trojan Horse, DINO pieces of shit kath Jun 2015 #128
+1! Enthusiast Jun 2015 #198
Yes, we must HassleCat Jun 2015 #227
Not going to happen, they have no shame or souls and we do. Rex Jun 2015 #243
Criticism is not the same as "damn dirty politics against other Democrats" Hekate Jun 2015 #2
... rbnyc Jun 2015 #85
Push polling a rumor that McCain has a love child is dirty politics. Posting at DU is posting at DU. merrily Jun 2015 #90
Amen. Ed Suspicious Jun 2015 #114
Really, what do you call the ongoing OP's that say if we choose Bernie Sanders we will davidpdx Jun 2015 #170
What do I call them? Stupid. Really stupid. It's June, for God's sake. Everything will shake out... Hekate Jun 2015 #172
The hypocrisy is that we shouldn't criticize Hillary Clinton because we might hurt her chances davidpdx Jun 2015 #173
I stand with you, my dear WillyT. Period. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2015 #3
Thanks Peg !!! WillyT Jun 2015 #11
I also. hifiguy Jun 2015 #32
:fistbump: WillyT Jun 2015 #34
Coming from you, the first four words of your post speak volumes. merrily Jun 2015 #80
Indeed. The conscience of DU has spoken. hifiguy Jun 2015 #187
So do I! Thank you! n/t Buenaventura Jun 2015 #203
Damn right. Obama and Senate/House "Democrats" pissed off a LOT of people today. Triana Jun 2015 #4
We are just slaves and cannon fodder. n/t PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #5
+1 daleanime Jun 2015 #24
I am a liberal first Kalidurga Jun 2015 #6
Shoulder to shoulder Willy T. 99Forever Jun 2015 #7
Agreed !!! WillyT Jun 2015 #12
I agree with you WillYT newfie11 Jun 2015 #8
Thanks newfie11 !!! WillyT Jun 2015 #36
Foolish Sean23 Jun 2015 #9
You're New Here... Welcome To The Maelstrom... WillyT Jun 2015 #13
Serious question, WillyT…. zentrum Jun 2015 #91
When a Democrat gives "fast track authority" to potentially a complete Republican government in 2016 cascadiance Jun 2015 #234
well said nt navarth Jun 2015 #236
And Your Assumption Suggests That Hillary Clinton Is A Corporate Democrat... WillyT Jun 2015 #26
serious doubts Old Codger Jun 2015 #38
Welcome to DU. Good to see so many new posters and infrequent speaking up. merrily Jun 2015 #86
Every time we vote for corporate dems we make a statement... rbnyc Jun 2015 #94
Yes, indeed. Maedhros Jun 2015 #127
+10000 MissDeeds Jun 2015 #135
If we just keep electing more and more corporate Democrats, Maedhros Jun 2015 #255
lol rbnyc Jun 2015 #283
The corporate Dems Mnpaul Jun 2015 #273
that line of reasoning makes sense only if the Dem doesn't do everything in their power to defeat MisterP Jun 2015 #103
There is a reason anyone who considers pushing the Democratic Party to the left Maedhros Jun 2015 #123
Hey, you're back! BeanMusical Jun 2015 #129
Are you thinking what I'm thinking? QC Jun 2015 #155
Hehehe. BeanMusical Jun 2015 #157
Do those also come in the bohemian variety? cui bono Jun 2015 #166
Why is it foolish? Mnpaul Jun 2015 #275
Those were the days my friend Fumesucker Jun 2015 #10
Let's Keep Dancing... WillyT Jun 2015 #14
Unfortunately, he's pretty much doing what I expected deutsey Jun 2015 #15
My First Vote Was For Jerry Brown 1974... Then Jimmy Carter 1976... It's All Gone Downhill Since... WillyT Jun 2015 #17
Well, at least I got to vote for McGovern. Fuddnik Jun 2015 #21
I also first tried to campaign for Jerry Brown when he ran in 1976 for president in the Iowa caucus cascadiance Jun 2015 #223
First POTUS vote was for Carter. Though I had supported Mo Udall hifiguy Jun 2015 #233
always voting "against" more than I'm voting "for." Martin Eden Jun 2015 #92
I Knew What Obama Was About... CorporatistNation Jun 2015 #149
K & R! Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #16
I knew you'd be at this party. hifiguy Jun 2015 #37
:fistbump: WillyT Jun 2015 #39
Yes. 99Forever Jun 2015 #100
Preach! [n/t] Maedhros Jun 2015 #130
Right there with you MissDeeds Jun 2015 #136
Bernie or Nobody. Fuddnik Jun 2015 #18
If you aren't pissed off by this Aerows Jun 2015 #19
You voted for the same thing I did. "The Lesser Evil". A Mirage. A Marketing Campaign. Fuddnik Jun 2015 #22
We were had. By masters of deception. nt hifiguy Jun 2015 #41
I knew when I saw Summers and Geithner in his inner circle deutsey Jun 2015 #59
Yep. Appoint the chief arsonists to hifiguy Jun 2015 #65
+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! WillyT Jun 2015 #44
I'm sure the wise ones will explain it to us all. Finally Democrats and Republicans have a kumbaya. L0oniX Jun 2015 #77
You can vote for whoever you want but when we have a nominee the rules of DU are very clear. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #20
Thanks for the totally unnecessary reminder. HERVEPA Jun 2015 #23
You're welcome. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #25
Not a reminder U4ikLefty Jun 2015 #169
Yep! emsimon33 Jun 2015 #221
indeed nt grasswire Jun 2015 #279
If the choice is between the corporate candidate and one that espouses democratic ideals hobbit709 Jun 2015 #28
I wish you the best in your choice. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #30
Anyone on DU can vote for whomever he/she chooses. Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #35
The rules are clear. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #43
By my count we are like 12+ months from that clause Paulie Jun 2015 #96
People are allowed to post their opinions just like me. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #98
You're not sharing an opinion Paulie Jun 2015 #99
No one is stifling anyone. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #102
... BeanMusical Jun 2015 #145
. Jeff Murdoch Jun 2015 #259
JPP Puglover Jun 2015 #276
The battle-cry of the boot-licker. [nt] Jester Messiah Jun 2015 #205
Indeed... truebrit71 Jun 2015 #239
Or not vote emsimon33 Jun 2015 #222
So... The POTUS JUST BROKE DU's RULES ??? WillyT Jun 2015 #45
I am not saying anyone broke the rules. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #49
You're sure doing a lot of hinting about the rules. hobbit709 Jun 2015 #56
Not my rules. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #57
Not the point. hobbit709 Jun 2015 #60
I had no other point but that there are rules here. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #62
I'm not buying any bridges. hobbit709 Jun 2015 #63
You don't have to. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #66
Not taking a fucking loyalty pledge for you or anyone else. You know what? If she wins Ed Suspicious Jun 2015 #117
You don't have to vote for her and I agree she has to earn your vote. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #119
The Rules? jalan48 Jun 2015 #55
Terms of service. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #58
Thanks, I just read them. jalan48 Jun 2015 #64
Well you can vote for whoever you want. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #69
That makes sense. jalan48 Jun 2015 #79
That is what Sanders is doing. He knows she will likely win but he is pushing her to the left. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #81
Good point- I hope she doesn't drift back to the right though. jalan48 Jun 2015 #83
Doubt Bernie would agree. merrily Jun 2015 #108
Ttp is such a divisive bill. I wish Democrats did not support the damn thing. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #110
Ummm, if you think Hillary "might" ever be against the TPP, NorthCarolina Jun 2015 #231
Please don't speak for Bernie. That is certainly not what he said he's doing. merrily Jun 2015 #106
I think he knows he is the underdog. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #107
Of course. But that is very different from what your prior post said. merrily Jun 2015 #109
I think it is consistent. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #112
Yet very different. Underdog does not equal sure loser. merrily Jun 2015 #175
We disagree. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #176
Again, Sanders did not say he knows he can't win. He said something very different. merrily Jun 2015 #177
What words did I put in his mouth? hrmjustin Jun 2015 #178
Um, you said Sanders knows he's going to lose. He said the opposite. merrily Jun 2015 #181
I said he knows she is likely going to win. I can give an opinion just like you can. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #182
Without looking back, you said he knew she was going to win, or was likely to win and then said merrily Jun 2015 #186
Good night. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #188
Can we hold you to that? kath Jun 2015 #212
I doubt it... truebrit71 Jun 2015 #241
Would be super nice though, kath Jun 2015 #246
You Da Man Justin. William769 Jun 2015 #264
Thank you. And I did take the day off and i will be busy the next few days so I won't be on much. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #265
Kiss all the boys boys for me! William769 Jun 2015 #267
Lol I will. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #268
Will you knock it off? He knows she will likely win? Ed Suspicious Jun 2015 #120
I am allowed my opinion and I will state it. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #125
And you believe that myth too? BeanMusical Jun 2015 #152
I believe Hillary is a much stronger candidate. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #153
No, the "Bernie is only in it to push Hillary to the left" myth. BeanMusical Jun 2015 #158
Well we disagree. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #160
That's a logical conclusion. BeanMusical Jun 2015 #164
Have a good night. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #165
Most of us believe she is not. cui bono Jun 2015 #167
Most in the party disagrees with you and agrees with me. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #168
Most in the party don't pay attention to politics and poll for HRC cui bono Jun 2015 #244
push hillary yikes1 Jun 2015 #179
Exactly. freedom fighter jh Jun 2015 #204
If she wins the primary she will lose in the general. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #201
No advocating for Bernie, or any third party, or for staying home. Those are the terms of service. merrily Jun 2015 #95
Ok-thank you for the info. jalan48 Jun 2015 #97
Bernie is running for the DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION FOR PRESIDENT Paulie Jun 2015 #101
The context of the subthread was what the rules mean relative to a nominee. merrily Jun 2015 #105
The rules apply in the general not now Paulie Jun 2015 #111
Exactly right. Igel Jun 2015 #137
Yes, when we have a nominee, we're in the general and I did not bring up the rules. merrily Jun 2015 #180
You should post that in the [Clueless group] ...but they might ban you. L0oniX Jun 2015 #70
And what group would that be? hrmjustin Jun 2015 #71
The one where you ban people if they ask you a simple question... truebrit71 Jun 2015 #242
Oh you mean the safe havens. Oh ok. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #289
A safe haven for what, though? It mustn't be for posting positive stuff about Hillary Clinton... Violet_Crumble Jun 2015 #292
You asking that in response to that post is very cui bono Jun 2015 #287
Good, I am glad you got a laugh. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #288
Roflmao! BeanMusical Jun 2015 #156
Maybe the Democratic party Aerows Jun 2015 #73
I don't agree. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #76
If you can't match what you say Aerows Jun 2015 #87
I understand and share your disappointment. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #89
Tell that to the moneybags hifiguy Jun 2015 #183
Well if the nominee is Hillary I predict a significant drop in traffic and ads revenue on DU. BeanMusical Jun 2015 #138
They said they were launching it for fun. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #140
Sure, they did it for fun. BeanMusical Jun 2015 #142
Are you upset they made it? hrmjustin Jun 2015 #143
Have you ever heard about the Turing test? BeanMusical Jun 2015 #147
Vaguely. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #148
. Rex Jun 2015 #245
What on Earth? Aerows Jun 2015 #195
its a fact bunnies Jun 2015 #213
Without comment. Aerows Jun 2015 #235
From what I've read the rules are similar to the Hillary group. BeanMusical Jun 2015 #216
The rest of us will just double the money we send to DU leftofcool Jun 2015 #262
Ohhh the power to ban. nm rhett o rick Jun 2015 #250
I'm with you WillyT Oilwellian Jun 2015 #27
Thanks Oilwellian... WillyT Jun 2015 #47
You rock too, my friend Oilwellian Jun 2015 #121
Word. Jester Messiah Jun 2015 #29
Exactly !!! WillyT Jun 2015 #54
Yep. A big fuck you to the 99% from the poodles of the 1%. GoneFishin Jun 2015 #31
Absolutely N/T Old Codger Jun 2015 #33
I'm with you, WillyT! truebluegreen Jun 2015 #42
:fistbump: WillyT Jun 2015 #48
This is our last chance to start removing the 1% from the government. "OUR" omitted because... L0oniX Jun 2015 #46
100% Agreed. We Were Betrayed.. raindaddy Jun 2015 #50
Bernie doesn't take bribes. He works for the people. azmom Jun 2015 #51
I suspect we are at one of those populists moments nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #52
When a dominionist cretin like Cruz hifiguy Jun 2015 #72
Well he is one with his ear firmly in the right wing nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #75
I'm with you. onecaliberal Jun 2015 #53
Thanks WillyT! nth Logical Jun 2015 #67
I am beyond seeing enough of this. NRaleighLiberal Jun 2015 #68
People are at what I call The Popeye Point: hifiguy Jun 2015 #74
funny - I can hear popeye's voice reading those words NRaleighLiberal Jun 2015 #78
It's a memorable meme I have been hifiguy Jun 2015 #82
K &.R rbnyc Jun 2015 #88
I will not vote for anyone who supports the TPP The Green Manalishi Jun 2015 #93
Well said, WillyT MissDeeds Jun 2015 #115
Willy - I'm with you. 840high Jun 2015 #116
From what I can tell, no one is stopping you from working against Democrats. JoePhilly Jun 2015 #122
I am with you, WillyT. glinda Jun 2015 #124
There is one thing that has been playing in my head all day since I heard the news. raouldukelives Jun 2015 #126
K&R! K&R! K&R! K&R! Phlem Jun 2015 #131
After 7 years of wussitude, Obama decides to take the gloves off and fight tularetom Jun 2015 #134
Seven Years of Wussitude lovemydog Jun 2015 #139
Yeah I think he wrote that right after "Love in the Time of the Common Cold" tularetom Jun 2015 #146
Gabriel Garcia Marquez was very prescient Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #162
Well now, I don't agree with that. lovemydog Jun 2015 #163
not true at all! ibegurpard Jun 2015 #151
A bit of hyperbole. I can think of many Dems who have done worse. McCamy Taylor Jun 2015 #141
Well, there was Bill Clinton, the Rapidly Shrinking Dog tularetom Jun 2015 #154
Preach it, brother! Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #150
If Democrats vote for Clinton TM99 Jun 2015 #159
Yuuup! Thespian2 Jun 2015 #161
First, I am deeply disappointed with the party and President Obama on TPP davidpdx Jun 2015 #171
It breaks my heart to rec this senseandsensibility Jun 2015 #174
I'll stop bashing them MannyGoldstein Jun 2015 #184
Don't hold yer breath, Manny. hifiguy Jun 2015 #189
I could think of a better term than "bashing" for what they're doing to us. Fuddnik Jun 2015 #202
I believe Hillary came out against it as soon as her little birds told her it was a fait accompli. Bonobo Jun 2015 #185
Turnout in 2016 will be a disaster if a corporate candidate gets the nomination strategery blunder Jun 2015 #190
Maybe it is time for primary challenges for all blue dogs. kenfrequed Jun 2015 #229
I couldn't agree with you more, WillyT. I'm still fucking furious. My williesgirl Jun 2015 #191
+ 1,000,000,000 What You Said !!! WillyT Jun 2015 #206
BUT HE GIVES SUCH PURTY SPEECHES Skittles Jun 2015 #192
So as to grease the skids madokie Jun 2015 #193
K&R! This post deserves hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Jun 2015 #196
. stonecutter357 Jun 2015 #199
Scrap Iron Gadaski Fairgo Jun 2015 #200
I'm with you. mmonk Jun 2015 #207
In a democracy, we're supposed to hold our public servants accountable. K&R Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2015 #208
I Will No Longer Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go cantbeserious Jun 2015 #209
Electing Hillary means the extinction of Homo Sapiens. Admiral Loinpresser Jun 2015 #210
The problem with approaching politics as team sport . . . markpkessinger Jun 2015 #211
Want ... what my grandfather use to say about "want"... rephrased for HOPE NotHardly Jun 2015 #214
So, just go along to get along then? Maedhros Jun 2015 #256
BINGO. Triana Jun 2015 #215
Oh FFS he has not treestar Jun 2015 #217
When your job is shipped overseas, as countless thousands will be. hifiguy Jun 2015 #237
+1 YoungDemCA Jun 2015 #238
Yes, but they are having so much fun getting the others riled up. leftofcool Jun 2015 #263
The first page of GD is full of people criticizing and working against democrats. NCTraveler Jun 2015 #218
YESSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!! emsimon33 Jun 2015 #220
Right on! Keep up the work against Democrats! zappaman Jun 2015 #224
Excellent post Willy, i agree donnasgirl Jun 2015 #225
Well, OK, but... HassleCat Jun 2015 #226
Ho hum what a bore this campaign against Hillary on DU has become and trying to demonize the best Pisces Jun 2015 #228
Pathetic. Maedhros Jun 2015 #257
I agree this thread is pathetic!! Pisces Jun 2015 #271
One issue Democrats uwep Jun 2015 #230
There isn't just one issue of disappointment... cascadiance Jun 2015 #249
There is a difference between being an "Underground" and hiding your head in the sand. staggerleem Jun 2015 #232
From experience, posts that start with Maedhros Jun 2015 #258
Right, because it couldn't possibly be someone being honest with you. We don't do that, right? randome Jun 2015 #266
And just WHERE did you see the word "but"? staggerleem Jun 2015 #270
And my point is proven...[n/t] Maedhros Jun 2015 #272
. randome Jun 2015 #240
Don't forget Don Siegelman. Octafish Jun 2015 #247
Right on, as usual! Hun Joro Jun 2015 #248
Don't be naive DownriverDem Jun 2015 #252
100% in agreement d_legendary1 Jun 2015 #253
Right with you! Hatchling Jun 2015 #254
With ya Wille Nite Owl Jun 2015 #260
I am so sorry you don't like Democrats. leftofcool Jun 2015 #261
as someone who GOTVs, sends everyone voting guides, gets to vote all-Dem most of the time MisterP Jun 2015 #274
+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! WillyT Jun 2015 #280
A-fucking-men. CharlotteVale Jun 2015 #278
I'm getting old...is it to soon to say "I give up."? Paper Roses Jun 2015 #281
dang, that's a lot of recs. nilram Jun 2015 #282
from my mind marym625 Jun 2015 #284
Thanks... You're A Great Friend !!! WillyT Jun 2015 #285
Awe! marym625 Jun 2015 #286
So true, the notion that we should ignore the betrayal of these Third Way Dems sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #290
A Last Kick From Me... WillyT Jun 2015 #291
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