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Nye Bevan

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63. How about statues of that Native American-exterminating, genocidal maniac Columbus?

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Wed Jun 24, 2015, 07:03 PM

Jun 2015

What sort of message does it send to Native Americans if we tear down statues of Confederates but not of Columbus?

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This monument is an affront to the United States. [View all] edhopper Jun 2015 OP

Yeah, but the laser shows on Saturday nights are awesome. onehandle Jun 2015 #1

And they will still argue edhopper Jun 2015 #3

Yes it is Kalidurga Jun 2015 #2

OTOH it has artistic and historic merit Recursion Jun 2015 #54

Monuments, headstones, history etc DustyJoe Jun 2015 #4

Nonsense. /nt yardwork Jun 2015 #5

What a ridiculous argument edhopper Jun 2015 #6

Technically they aren't traitors. They were all pardoned. Calista241 Jun 2015 #7

They fought against their own country edhopper Jun 2015 #8

Traitors to Britain from 13 New World colonies fought against their own country between 1775-1783 Pooka Fey Jun 2015 #15

Are there statutes edhopper Jun 2015 #16

Did England put up a statue honoring "Traitor-Rebel" George Washington? Yes, in Trafalgar Square Pooka Fey Jun 2015 #20

I was trying to understand what you meant by winners framing the debate edhopper Jun 2015 #22

In 1783, the Colonial Traitors against the British Crown WON their Turn-Coat Rebellion Pooka Fey Jun 2015 #26

No edhopper Jun 2015 #27

Riiiiight. Take a look at your post number 23 again. Pooka Fey Jun 2015 #29

You got me there edhopper Jun 2015 #31

it is one thing to discuss losers in a war DonCoquixote Jun 2015 #35

I stopped reading after your 2nd sentence, Godwin's law and all Pooka Fey Jun 2015 #39

You stopped reading DonCoquixote Jun 2015 #64

... Pooka Fey Jun 2015 #67

Never thought about it DustyJoe Jun 2015 #24

They may have been pardoned but what they did . . . brush Jun 2015 #10

Given the history of Stone Mountain and the KKK, it should be destroyed csziggy Jun 2015 #17

Well said nt edhopper Jun 2015 #23

Excellent post... Spazito Jun 2015 #43

That's a great idea - use it as a teaching tool for the history of racism csziggy Jun 2015 #44

To me, educating the young on the real history of racism and racist monuments like Spazito Jun 2015 #45

Bit of a difference between not celebrating those who fought to preserve slavery NuclearDem Jun 2015 #25

No doubt your bias is offended. LanternWaste Jun 2015 #51

Racists don't wear Stone Mountain shirts or wave SM flags NightWatcher Jun 2015 #9

I don't think getting rid of the monument edhopper Jun 2015 #11

Stone Mountain Georgia, the site where the Ku Klux Klan was reborn. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #12

No mention of the rebirth of the Klan is complete Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #18

West Virginia had a precious member of the klan until yeoman6987 Jun 2015 #30

Byrd is such a red herring edhopper Jun 2015 #34

I don't know. You mentioned klam members in congress and yeoman6987 Jun 2015 #41

I mentioned that Stone Mountain was rallying point for the Klan edhopper Jun 2015 #42

That's what the Taliban said! FSogol Jun 2015 #13

That is how you see Stone Mountain? edhopper Jun 2015 #14

One man's "heritage" is another man's hell. nt kelliekat44 Jun 2015 #19

And what is the "heritage of Stone Mountain? edhopper Jun 2015 #21

Never saw or heard of it. yeoman6987 Jun 2015 #28

Then a hell of a lot of us are the descendants of traitors. pogglethrope Jun 2015 #32

Yes edhopper Jun 2015 #33

I agree that the Confederate flag shouldnt be flying on state grounds davidn3600 Jun 2015 #47

Not all edhopper Jun 2015 #57

Yes, and the principles of that nation were evil, it is nothing to be proud of. n/t Humanist_Activist Jun 2015 #36

History is written by the victors csziggy Jun 2015 #46

Don't make me come down there again Ichingcarpenter Jun 2015 #37

"War is Hell" edhopper Jun 2015 #38

Simple solution: Have them fly REAL Confederate flags. KamaAina Jun 2015 #40

Do you have a complaint with this one? former9thward Jun 2015 #48

No edhopper Jun 2015 #58

A distinction without a difference. former9thward Jun 2015 #60

and that is wrong as well edhopper Jun 2015 #62

The Confederate Memorial at Arlington National Cemetery is not anyone's grave. former9thward Jun 2015 #65

This should be blown up. philosslayer Jun 2015 #49

That is just a bullshit argument edhopper Jun 2015 #59

Would you support the bulldozing and destruction of confederate Graves? n/t oneshooter Jun 2015 #66

I'd hate to see any monument removed, replaced or destroyed. LanternWaste Jun 2015 #50

It's also the largest bas relief in the world (nt) Recursion Jun 2015 #52

So don't destroy it, give it a makeover. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #55

I'm hesitant to alter old art. Put up an interpretive element Recursion Jun 2015 #56

MLK specifically mentioned it in the "I Have A Dream" Speech jberryhill Jun 2015 #53

Stoned and alone seveneyes Jun 2015 #61

How about statues of that Native American-exterminating, genocidal maniac Columbus? Nye Bevan Jun 2015 #63

So until we eliminate all statues to questionable figures edhopper Jun 2015 #69

I didn't even know that existed AwakeAtLast Jun 2015 #68