How about statues of that Native American-exterminating, genocidal maniac Columbus? (Reply #63)

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Wed Jun 24, 2015, 07:03 PM

Nye Bevan (25,406 posts)

63. How about statues of that Native American-exterminating, genocidal maniac Columbus?

What sort of message does it send to Native Americans if we tear down statues of Confederates but not of Columbus?

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69 replies	Author	Time	Post
This monument is an affront to the United States. [View all]	edhopper	Jun 2015	OP
Yeah, but the laser shows on Saturday nights are awesome.	onehandle	Jun 2015	#1
And they will still argue	edhopper	Jun 2015	#3
Yes it is	Kalidurga	Jun 2015	#2
OTOH it has artistic and historic merit	Recursion	Jun 2015	#54
Monuments, headstones, history etc	DustyJoe	Jun 2015	#4
Nonsense. /nt	yardwork	Jun 2015	#5
What a ridiculous argument	edhopper	Jun 2015	#6
Technically they aren't traitors. They were all pardoned.	Calista241	Jun 2015	#7
They fought against their own country	edhopper	Jun 2015	#8
Traitors to Britain from 13 New World colonies fought against their own country between 1775-1783	Pooka Fey	Jun 2015	#15
Are there statutes	edhopper	Jun 2015	#16
Did England put up a statue honoring "Traitor-Rebel" George Washington? Yes, in Trafalgar Square	Pooka Fey	Jun 2015	#20
I was trying to understand what you meant by winners framing the debate	edhopper	Jun 2015	#22
In 1783, the Colonial Traitors against the British Crown WON their Turn-Coat Rebellion	Pooka Fey	Jun 2015	#26
No	edhopper	Jun 2015	#27
Riiiiight. Take a look at your post number 23 again.	Pooka Fey	Jun 2015	#29
You got me there	edhopper	Jun 2015	#31
it is one thing to discuss losers in a war	DonCoquixote	Jun 2015	#35
I stopped reading after your 2nd sentence, Godwin's law and all	Pooka Fey	Jun 2015	#39
You stopped reading	DonCoquixote	Jun 2015	#64
...	Pooka Fey	Jun 2015	#67
Never thought about it	DustyJoe	Jun 2015	#24
They may have been pardoned but what they did . . .	brush	Jun 2015	#10
Given the history of Stone Mountain and the KKK, it should be destroyed	csziggy	Jun 2015	#17
Well said nt	edhopper	Jun 2015	#23
Excellent post...	Spazito	Jun 2015	#43
That's a great idea - use it as a teaching tool for the history of racism	csziggy	Jun 2015	#44
To me, educating the young on the real history of racism and racist monuments like	Spazito	Jun 2015	#45
Bit of a difference between not celebrating those who fought to preserve slavery	NuclearDem	Jun 2015	#25
No doubt your bias is offended.	LanternWaste	Jun 2015	#51
Racists don't wear Stone Mountain shirts or wave SM flags	NightWatcher	Jun 2015	#9
I don't think getting rid of the monument	edhopper	Jun 2015	#11
Stone Mountain Georgia, the site where the Ku Klux Klan was reborn.	MohRokTah	Jun 2015	#12
No mention of the rebirth of the Klan is complete	Art_from_Ark	Jun 2015	#18
West Virginia had a precious member of the klan until	yeoman6987	Jun 2015	#30
Byrd is such a red herring	edhopper	Jun 2015	#34
I don't know. You mentioned klam members in congress and	yeoman6987	Jun 2015	#41
I mentioned that Stone Mountain was rallying point for the Klan	edhopper	Jun 2015	#42
That's what the Taliban said!	FSogol	Jun 2015	#13
That is how you see Stone Mountain?	edhopper	Jun 2015	#14
One man's "heritage" is another man's hell. nt	kelliekat44	Jun 2015	#19
And what is the "heritage of Stone Mountain?	edhopper	Jun 2015	#21
Never saw or heard of it.	yeoman6987	Jun 2015	#28
Then a hell of a lot of us are the descendants of traitors.	pogglethrope	Jun 2015	#32
Yes	edhopper	Jun 2015	#33
I agree that the Confederate flag shouldnt be flying on state grounds	davidn3600	Jun 2015	#47
Not all	edhopper	Jun 2015	#57
Yes, and the principles of that nation were evil, it is nothing to be proud of. n/t	Humanist_Activist	Jun 2015	#36
History is written by the victors	csziggy	Jun 2015	#46
Don't make me come down there again	Ichingcarpenter	Jun 2015	#37
"War is Hell"	edhopper	Jun 2015	#38
Simple solution: Have them fly REAL Confederate flags.	KamaAina	Jun 2015	#40
Do you have a complaint with this one?	former9thward	Jun 2015	#48
No	edhopper	Jun 2015	#58
A distinction without a difference.	former9thward	Jun 2015	#60
and that is wrong as well	edhopper	Jun 2015	#62
The Confederate Memorial at Arlington National Cemetery is not anyone's grave.	former9thward	Jun 2015	#65
This should be blown up.	philosslayer	Jun 2015	#49
That is just a bullshit argument	edhopper	Jun 2015	#59
Would you support the bulldozing and destruction of confederate Graves? n/t	oneshooter	Jun 2015	#66
I'd hate to see any monument removed, replaced or destroyed.	LanternWaste	Jun 2015	#50
It's also the largest bas relief in the world (nt)	Recursion	Jun 2015	#52
So don't destroy it, give it a makeover.	Erich Bloodaxe BSN	Jun 2015	#55
I'm hesitant to alter old art. Put up an interpretive element	Recursion	Jun 2015	#56
MLK specifically mentioned it in the "I Have A Dream" Speech	jberryhill	Jun 2015	#53
Stoned and alone	seveneyes	Jun 2015	#61
How about statues of that Native American-exterminating, genocidal maniac Columbus?	Nye Bevan	Jun 2015	#63
So until we eliminate all statues to questionable figures	edhopper	Jun 2015	#69
I didn't even know that existed	AwakeAtLast	Jun 2015	#68

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