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hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 03:35 PM Jun 2015

There is not one thing surprising about C.J. Roberts' vote in King v. Burwell. Nothing. [View all]

Roberts' jurisprudence turns upon one idea - Big Money always wins when its interests are implicated.

The ACA has allowed Big Pharma and Big Insurance to rob the people blind and make obscene windfall profits and will continue to do so. Ergo, Roberts votes to uphold it.

Citizens United allowed Big Money unlimited ways to propagandize. Ergo, Big Money wins.

But marriage equality is a different thing entirely. First, Chiefs think about their legacies and do not want to be vilified by history. No Chief, with the possible exception of the Grand Rehnquisitor, wants to be mentioned by posterity in the same breath as Roger "Dred Scott" Taney. Marriage equality is historically inevitable, so Roberts can go with the historical flow on this issue and cover his butt.

Second, during argument, Roberts asked counsel for the parties seeking equality if the case could be resolved under settled sex-discrimination law and was truthfully told, "Yes, your honor." This was a VERY revealing question. If Roberts feels that this case can be disposed of narrowly applying settled precedents in the area of sex discrimination, as it very plausibly could be, he will be far more likely to go along with equality. And the woman who made most of that settled sex-discrim law offices just down the hall from him; her name is Ginsburg, IIRC. Doubtless these two have had a few friendly chats on the issue.

Thirdly, there is no Big Money interest in the equality case. To the extent Big Money cares about marriage equality at all, they tend to think it's good business and not a dime will be lost if it is upheld.

So for these reasons plan on seeing Roberts in a 6-3 majority with Fat Tony, Soapy Sam and Uncle Ruckus going off like supernovae of stupidity.

That is this lawyer's take.

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There is another explanation. ChairmanAgnostic Jun 2015 #1
That may be something to watch more for in the future. hifiguy Jun 2015 #2
But he started talking about the poor and the need to take care of all ChairmanAgnostic Jun 2015 #12
Yeah, but Scalia is Catholic, too. I think what is more likely is that Scalia's obnoxious, pnwmom Jun 2015 #18
Old pope, new pope. But, ChairmanAgnostic Jun 2015 #23
i do not think he is wearing well with Roberts. hifiguy Jun 2015 #25
And meanwhile, there are the eminently reasonable Ginsburg, Sotomayor, and Kagan. pnwmom Jun 2015 #28
Roberts is very smart. hifiguy Jun 2015 #32
My HS classmates and I AndreaCG Jun 2015 #59
There is plenty of money riding on a favorable decision. randome Jun 2015 #3
I mean BIG money hifiguy Jun 2015 #5
I may be in the minority here Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2015 #4
He's the Chief. Chiefs have a somewhat different set of institutional priorities hifiguy Jun 2015 #6
Good point Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2015 #7
With the exception of Rehnquist, generally yes. hifiguy Jun 2015 #8
Roberts surely didn't want to be seen as leading the Supreme Court Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2015 #9
Roberts is no fool. Quite to the contrary hifiguy Jun 2015 #10
I am feeling better about that case as well Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2015 #11
So true ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #48
When I was fresh out of law school I wound up working rather closely hifiguy Jun 2015 #49
Bernie supported the ACA...he voted for it... Cali_Democrat Jun 2015 #13
He didn't have anything else to vote for and it has done a lot of good for some people. hifiguy Jun 2015 #14
It's fun to watch alleged Bernie supporters twist themselves into pretzels Cali_Democrat Jun 2015 #15
So, having NO coverage for people in need is better? cascadiance Jun 2015 #29
The only people getting triple digit premium increases are the ones pnwmom Jun 2015 #19
I will take the word of the DUers who have discussed hifiguy Jun 2015 #20
Yup, they were happy with their junk policies. pnwmom Jun 2015 #22
Post removed Post removed Jun 2015 #16
BTW, nice thread hijack. hifiguy Jun 2015 #21
The subject of your OP was the recent supreme court decision upholding ACA Cali_Democrat Jun 2015 #24
Of course not. hifiguy Jun 2015 #26
your second sentence was quite spectacular Sheepshank Jun 2015 #36
I must admit, a comment hifiguy Jun 2015 #38
very nice...thanks Sheepshank Jun 2015 #41
And thank you! hifiguy Jun 2015 #43
I have to admit ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #52
It is always a pleasure to kick ideas around with you, sir. hifiguy Jun 2015 #53
Though we may disagree on matters ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #55
This message was self-deleted by its author geek tragedy Jun 2015 #17
So if Bernie becomes president, the time to turn on single payer is when a right wing justice cascadiance Jun 2015 #27
100% agreed Prism Jun 2015 #30
I live near downtown Minneapolis. hifiguy Jun 2015 #50
Roberts is not a knee-jerk right-winger in the same way as Fat Tony The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2015 #31
Everything you said (n/t) Prism Jun 2015 #33
No he isn't. That doesn't mean he isn't conservative, but he tries base his decisions what he still_one Jun 2015 #42
+1 hifiguy Jun 2015 #45
I have to agree with most of what you have written ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #34
That would be an excellent outcome for the average person. hifiguy Jun 2015 #35
Yes , it is. Oh yeah ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #39
I wish I had known what you wrote about before I wrote my OP early this afternoon. hifiguy Jun 2015 #44
you sound disappointed that it was upheld. The reason was very specific. You cannot take 4 words still_one Jun 2015 #37
Not at all. It has a lot of problems, hifiguy Jun 2015 #40
I agree it has quite a lot of problems, but I just don't agree that Robert's vote was because it still_one Jun 2015 #46
Another interesting point, which I did not know. hifiguy Jun 2015 #47
He has had a couple of seizures. So does that mean he has epilepsy? It depends who you talk to I still_one Jun 2015 #58
Obama hate, alive and well on DU randys1 Jun 2015 #51
How do you figure? The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2015 #54
Then nothing I could EVER say could possibly matter, if you truly mean that randys1 Jun 2015 #56
No, seriously. The OP criticized aspects of the ACA. So? The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2015 #57
Eeyup! hifiguy Jun 2015 #60
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