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napkinz

(17,199 posts)
Sun Jun 28, 2015, 02:20 PM Jun 2015

Message To Fundies Decrying The Supreme Court Decision As An Infringement On Their Religious Freedom [View all]




[font size="3"]Marriage Equality Does Not Affect Religious Liberty[/font]

June 28, 2015
by Julian Drury

Religious Conservatives love playing the victim, but with the recent marriage equality ruling, their rights are not being infringed upon

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... conservatives are trying to frame the issue as religion being infringed upon. The issue is clear by the SCOTUS ruling, however; no religious group is being forced to wed gay people. Churches are not forced by law to wed gay couples. The SCOTUS ruling merely deals with marriage certificates, the legal documents declaring someone married. Churches that do not condone gay marriage do not have to wed gay couples. However, state and local officials have to legally abide by and fulfill marriage contracts if applied for by gay couples.

The recent ruling does not threaten anyone’s religious rights. If you are a Christian and you don’t agree with gay marriage, you are not obligated to have a gay wedding. If you are a church that does not condone gay marriage, you do not have to perform gay weddings. If you are a Christian and are opposed to gay marriage, your rights to bigotry are not threatened at all in this matter.

Marriage equality is purely a secular and practical matter that had to be settled legally. While conservatives scream about “religious liberty” and “God’s law” being attacked, they should be reminded of the First Amendment. We cannot base our laws on religious law, and in no way can or should we take religion into account when denying citizens their secular legal rights. No one’s religion is threatened legally here.

If you morally disagree with the SCOTUS decision, then that is your choice. If your religion puts you in disagreement, that is your choice. But you have no legal right to enforce your religious doctrine on others by denying them their secular rights to marry. Marriage is as much a secular right of society as it is a religious right-of-passage.

read more: http://quietmike.org/2015/06/28/marriage-equality-does-not-affect-religious-liberty/
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Kickin' Faux pas Jun 2015 #1
So true, the biggest twist of logic ever treestar Jun 2015 #2
exactly ... napkinz Jun 2015 #13
Excellent, Excellent, Excellent!!!!! calimary Jun 2015 #17
"Catchy slogans and turns-of-phrase are easy to remember" napkinz Jun 2015 #31
I came across another great one ... napkinz Jun 2015 #48
See, there's another good one. We need as many of these as possible. calimary Jun 2015 #50
I saw a documentary on John Lennon a couple of years ago napkinz Jun 2015 #51
Yes, yes, yes, yes, and Yes!!! calimary Jul 2015 #53
here's an example of one of those brilliant gimmicks ... a challenge to oppressed fundies napkinz Jul 2015 #54
LIKE this one, napkinz! calimary Jul 2015 #55
Totally Kicking and Rec'ing. SoapBox Jun 2015 #3
Kick and R BeanMusical Jun 2015 #4
Keeping this KICKED. Homer Wells Jun 2015 #5
they feel that if they can't impose their beliefs on others, they are being persecuted/oppressed napkinz Jun 2015 #16
K & R!!!!! Thespian2 Jun 2015 #6
And nobody's forcing them to go marry a gay person, either. calimary Jun 2015 #7
Exactly! smirkymonkey Jun 2015 #11
... napkinz Jun 2015 #12
They will never get this argument. AngryOldDem Jun 2015 #8
sums it up ... napkinz Jun 2015 #15
Opposed to same sex marriage ? penndragon69 Jun 2015 #9
it's simple; if you're against same-sex marriage, don't have one napkinz Jun 2015 #19
K&R..... daleanime Jun 2015 #10
Marriage has always been a part of civil law. hifiguy Jun 2015 #14
Exactly ChoppinBroccoli Jun 2015 #22
conservatives want to protect traditional biblical marriage ... well ... napkinz Jun 2015 #32
I guess the "religious liberty" argument rested on individuals, like Court Clerks. Beartracks Jun 2015 #18
Texas attorney general says county clerks can refuse gay couples napkinz Jun 2015 #37
Then U.S. Marshals should be posted at the Clerks' offices... Beartracks Jun 2015 #40
I wonder how Texas will respond ... napkinz Jun 2015 #41
You never fail~ sheshe2 Jun 2015 #20
thanks sheshe napkinz Jun 2015 #24
Excellent! nt City Lights Jun 2015 #21
K&R marym625 Jun 2015 #23
:) napkinz Jun 2015 #26
EXCELLENT! Mahalo napkinz! Cha Jun 2015 #25
Hey Cha! napkinz Jun 2015 #27
They are the perfect words to shut down the bigoted whiners. Cha Jun 2015 #28
the bigoted whiners ... napkinz Jun 2015 #29
Wah wah wah.. sniff sniff blubber blubber.. Bigot tears good for America! Cha Jun 2015 #30
:) napkinz Jun 2015 #45
Kick! Cha Jun 2015 #46
ding allan01 Jun 2015 #33
a civil matter, a civil right napkinz Jun 2015 #39
Kicking AuntPatsy Jun 2015 #34
When a Baker or a Government Clerk denies service to a hetero couple for being previously divorced.. brooklynite Jun 2015 #35
how does a fundamentalist barber make a living? napkinz Jun 2015 #42
I guess soup is fine, but "no shrimp for you!" :) napkinz Jun 2015 #49
Religious freedom catrose Jun 2015 #36
the GOP stands for religious freedom UNLESS ... napkinz Jun 2015 #43
only THEIR religious freedom catrose Jun 2015 #44
here's an easy test for them ... napkinz Jun 2015 #47
from Betty Bowers ... napkinz Jun 2015 #38
Supreme Court Decision Will Lead To Assault On/Persecution Of Christians By Teh Gays! napkinz Jun 2015 #52
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