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Centrism is another word for cowardice, really. closeupready Jul 2015 #1
Yeah. Also "complicity." Scuba Jul 2015 #22
And capitulation passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #101
mostly CORRUPTION yurbud Jul 2015 #154
Oh, I don't know. Centrist doesn't seem so bad when I'm reminded of how much those on Hortensis Jul 2015 #208
Do tell. yurbud Jul 2015 #221
Seconded. Aerows Jul 2015 #229
This message was self-deleted by its author Hortensis Jul 2015 #245
Just saw your responses, and here are a couple of links I grabbed quickly in case you return. Hortensis Jul 2015 #246
Yep. Daemonaquila Jul 2015 #42
+1000 nt laundry_queen Jul 2015 #104
"Quit trying to convince us to surrender." + A zillion. Scuba Jul 2015 #119
Someone working for the PTB. nt valerief Jul 2015 #86
More like 'opportunist'. Marr Jul 2015 #109
That's politics. yardwork Jul 2015 #2
I don't remember it that way at all Sheepshank Jul 2015 #3
I remember when the centrist Democrats Yupster Jul 2015 #5
Obama & Hillary were against gay marriage, before they were for it (& it became politically safe) RiverLover Jul 2015 #7
So apparently you didn't read Axelrod's book Sheepshank Jul 2015 #12
Look, the point is that while Obama might have been running a tactical ploy, centrist boosters of Bluenorthwest Jul 2015 #13
look, that's just not the way I remember this from the OP Sheepshank Jul 2015 #18
Look.... Enthusiast Jul 2015 #97
I could be mistaken here. But I believe you specifically were told, and I'm Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2015 #74
It would be interesting if you actually found links that said that... ConservativeDemocrat Jul 2015 #91
Well I personally don't give 2 fucks what you think. As I said in my Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2015 #95
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence ConservativeDemocrat Jul 2015 #114
Tell you what slappy. Show me where I made that claim. I was specifically Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2015 #118
Well, your post DID begin "I could be mistaken here...." So clearly you made no claim whatever. merrily Jul 2015 #193
I'm sorry, but do you have a link to back up this post you Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2015 #200
Yes, as a matter of fact, I do. Two links, in fact. merrily Jul 2015 #201
I've been proven wrong then. See? How hard was that? nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2015 #205
Well, you never said I couldn't provide a link. So, you were never merrily Jul 2015 #206
Ah but now I've been proven wrong about mistakenly thinking I was Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2015 #207
Here you are, ConservativeDemocrat. Marr Jul 2015 #115
Thank you. At least I see now what the complaint is. ConservativeDemocrat Jul 2015 #122
You owe Guy Whitey an apology. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2015 #126
Not even in the least bit ConservativeDemocrat Jul 2015 #148
"Mischaracterization." WorseBeforeBetter Jul 2015 #162
lol Love it. ctsnowman Jul 2015 #187
You asked him to provide links for a question he asked Bluenorthwest, LOL! merrily Jul 2015 #196
Check this out bubula. You can try to Rightsplain this shit all you want and try to Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2015 #199
I'll just leave you to your ranting ConservativeDemocrat Jul 2015 #202
Oh I meant it in the most affectionate way possible. I think Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2015 #204
Oh, I fucking well remember that Aerows Jul 2015 #124
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2952192 WorseBeforeBetter Jul 2015 #159
See? Gays had the right to free speech, equal to heteros. Where was the problem? OMFG. merrily Jul 2015 #203
Yes correct, same poster also said 'there is only one right you don't have' meaning marriage Bluenorthwest Jul 2015 #195
Well lucky you..... I guess. (no sarcasm thingy needed) Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2015 #198
+1 Marr Jul 2015 #112
I wonder how much of that was gullibility, and how much was plain malice. nomorenomore08 Jul 2015 #175
+1 PREACH. merrily Jul 2015 #188
I know exactly what you mean. Marr Jul 2015 #210
Please repeat after me: "Whatever is, is right and good and the best that could possibly exist, merrily Jul 2015 #214
Obama was politically against gay marriage lark Jul 2015 #73
read again...or better still go the link and read more Sheepshank Jul 2015 #88
Just my memory of what happened lark Jul 2015 #227
That's correct. Zenlitened Jul 2015 #239
Yep, that's what happened lark Jul 2015 #240
Who gives a SHIT if a politician is 'for' you privately, if they're *against* you publicly? Marr Jul 2015 #111
+ a billion BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #133
Pant Load Puglover Jul 2015 #143
Exactly what I was thinking. cui bono Jul 2015 #152
+1 What the President says publicly impacts public opinion and lives profoundly. merrily Jul 2015 #220
Exactly fucking right LondonReign2 Jul 2015 #241
"In the same way that Bernie writes essays that portray women in a bad light" Aerows Jul 2015 #123
You missed all the posts about Bernie's writings and women fantasizing about being raped? Sheepshank Jul 2015 #128
Oh, right Aerows Jul 2015 #130
omg... you can't be serious. Did you read about that issue at all? cui bono Jul 2015 #153
It's fucking unbelievable Aerows Jul 2015 #158
What makes you think it's a straight face? merrily Jul 2015 #189
It is structured Aerows Jul 2015 #228
I'm sure most DUers remember it was one fictional essay written 43 years ago. merrily Jul 2015 #231
It's just messed up, merrily. Aerows Jul 2015 #233
I agree. Some of the things I see on this board are unreal. It is what it is. merrily Jul 2015 #234
It's messed up, but LondonReign2 Jul 2015 #242
Writings? False. merrily Jul 2015 #186
"Bernie writes" present tense. False. 43 fucking years ago. "Essays." Plural False. merrily Jul 2015 #185
Obama & Hillary Live Together in Perfect Harmony BeanMusical Jul 2015 #66
It's a beautiful thing to behold. Enthusiast Jul 2015 #99
Oy, I didn't think that someone would reply to this! BeanMusical Jul 2015 #168
A deal was cut in 2008. Obama lived up to his end of it and so did the Clintons. merrily Jul 2015 #222
All you have to do is look at DU threads about McClurkin, Rick Warren, or Obama 08 to see Bluenorthwest Jul 2015 #11
Indeed - we were told we needed to wait dbackjon Jul 2015 #56
"You are not going to ruin this for everyone else!" QC Jul 2015 #69
Everyone knew how it was going to be once Rick Warren gave his talk and Rahm was COS. LiberalArkie Jul 2015 #63
I remember that because it was also tied in with "it's just a little prayer!11!!" riderinthestorm Jul 2015 #213
Probably the most widely broadcast prayer in history, but who's counting? merrily Jul 2015 #225
Fortunately, other people have a better memory than you. frylock Jul 2015 #34
I think those memories are altered to fit a narrative, and are not accurate Sheepshank Jul 2015 #36
You need some memory pills or a reality check dbackjon Jul 2015 #71
Good thing most of us remember. laundry_queen Jul 2015 #106
Someones brains are more tapioca than grey matter, apparently BlindTiresias Jul 2015 #167
You were a member during the great gay purge of 2009 dbackjon Jul 2015 #55
Du purged people for asking for a pony? Sheepshank Jul 2015 #59
I know why I was banned for 18 months dbackjon Jul 2015 #70
I'm still banned, shhh, don't tell anyone. Humanist_Activist Jul 2015 #90
Be vewy vewy kwiet dbackjon Jul 2015 #94
Skinner posted in ATA once that he doesn't care if banshees and banhees return, as long merrily Jul 2015 #226
here on DU... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2015 #81
I never, not once applauded or advocated civil unions Sheepshank Jul 2015 #131
Yeah, once I thought about it for a bit... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2015 #142
Thank you Sheepshank Jul 2015 #150
It's pure revisionism. joshcryer Jul 2015 #102
It was 2012 Kalidurga Jul 2015 #110
doma collinsrent Jul 2015 #190
yes. merrily Jul 2015 #223
You have a short memory or a bad memory then.n/t Chan790 Jul 2015 #191
Just because 0.06% of the population say something doesn't make it a meme snooper2 Jul 2015 #4
Never happened! Prism Jul 2015 #6
Indeed. Hong Kong Cavalier Jul 2015 #10
Love Sapphocat enigmatic Jul 2015 #84
Sapphocat was a rock star Prism Jul 2015 #92
Agreed. Hong Kong Cavalier Jul 2015 #103
That post should be required reading for every member of DU dbackjon Jul 2015 #113
agreed Change has come Jul 2015 #174
Abso freaking lutely. closeupready Jul 2015 #217
Yea Puglover Jul 2015 #144
She was a dear friend. Puglover Jul 2015 #145
Thank you, THANK YOU, THANK YOU for that link! Rex Jul 2015 #238
Right? It was all a dream. A dreeeeammm! Zenlitened Jul 2015 #141
+1 merrily Jul 2015 #224
It's your second point that gets me. Marr Jul 2015 #244
Yes, who can forget that far-left rag "The Economist" back in 1996 Nye Bevan Jul 2015 #8
Are you saying that gay marriage is a center-right position?? Fearless Jul 2015 #33
Dead. On. Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #9
Back in the early 70's being openly pro-gay rights was regarded Douglas Carpenter Jul 2015 #14
+ 10000. Agreed nt riderinthestorm Jul 2015 #15
Uh huh... SidDithers Jul 2015 #16
Have the force of character to call someone a liar if that's what you mean. DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2015 #26
Oh please, it happened, most of the posts were deleted, but nothing... Humanist_Activist Jul 2015 #93
This message was self-deleted by its author SidDithers Jul 2015 #155
When you are that far to the right, just about anything looks far left. raouldukelives Jul 2015 #17
And a fossil like John "bomb bomb Iran" McCain looks like a liberal. nomorenomore08 Jul 2015 #178
yeah, right Roy Rolling Jul 2015 #19
Some are leaders and some are followers Fearless Jul 2015 #31
I think the point is more to do with people who would never march at all. nomorenomore08 Jul 2015 #180
It is arrogant as hell TM99 Jul 2015 #181
That was certainly true at DU. PufPuf23 Jul 2015 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author Orrex Jul 2015 #23
That goalpost has been relocated. It's now Social Security and Medicare. Scuba Jul 2015 #21
I confess that I was one of the assholes who held that position Orrex Jul 2015 #24
I'm glad you were wrong too :) Marrah_G Jul 2015 #50
I appreciate your candor in acknowledging a rather strong sentiment that bullwinkle428 Jul 2015 #68
An "asshole" Aerows Jul 2015 #156
That's very kind--thank you! Orrex Jul 2015 #182
You remember correctly Oilwellian Jul 2015 #25
Their support for civil rights issues after-the-fact is the facade that hides Maedhros Jul 2015 #38
Indeed. It could not be anymore obvious. n/t Oilwellian Jul 2015 #43
Good observation. nt laundry_queen Jul 2015 #107
Exactly right. Aerows Jul 2015 #164
"Love me, love me, love me, I'm a Liberal" Maedhros Jul 2015 #169
We thought it would. I thought it would too. Arkana Jul 2015 #211
Indeed. truebrit71 Jul 2015 #27
*Ahem* Hillary *Ahem* Fearless Jul 2015 #28
Be gracious in victory, is my view. closeupready Jul 2015 #29
Eh, it's difficult to let hatred slide Prism Jul 2015 #83
+1 enigmatic Jul 2015 #85
Self-awareness can rarely be taught Prism Jul 2015 #87
Oh, I get you on this, believe me. closeupready Jul 2015 #89
Well said. n/t cui bono Jul 2015 #160
while i agree with you in principle, my desire to gloat sometimes just triumphs over my principles! La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2015 #212
You know something, me too - in going about my day, closeupready Jul 2015 #215
Lots of comments - no proof. Drunken Irishman Jul 2015 #30
So just the sheer transcendent majesty of his being President caused Iowa to legalize it? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #78
Uh...what? Drunken Irishman Jul 2015 #117
I remember not long ago at all BainsBane Jul 2015 #32
This. nt. Starry Messenger Jul 2015 #53
"Claiming" is the so much more than the Zorra Jul 2015 #171
Ask the OP for links BainsBane Jul 2015 #172
Lord have mercy Aerows Jul 2015 #232
A friend of mine posted Doc Holliday Jul 2015 #35
+1 SoapBox Jul 2015 #37
Centrists didn't exist until the Reaganites came along. Rex Jul 2015 #39
You kidding me? iandhr Jul 2015 #44
And did they change the face of America like Reaganites did(for the worse)? Not even close. Rex Jul 2015 #46
I am talking about pre 1960 iandhr Jul 2015 #47
LBJ and IKE were textbook conservatives...the kind that by the 1980s Newt could only dream Rex Jul 2015 #49
Ike also spearheaded the interstate highway system NewJeffCT Jul 2015 #194
That was back when Obama was still "evolving" on the gay marriage issue.. truth2power Jul 2015 #40
Well you can't argue with results. iandhr Jul 2015 #41
Weathervane Politics... WillyT Jul 2015 #45
That was a truly ugly time on DU. demmiblue Jul 2015 #48
Yes - I remember those days. dbackjon Jul 2015 #51
We got our fucking pony :) Marrah_G Jul 2015 #52
For the win! Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #64
You betcha! And it farts rainbows!! n/t eridani Jul 2015 #140
Now it's politically convenient to support marriage equality... MadDAsHell Jul 2015 #54
Divide and conquer. JoePhilly Jul 2015 #57
Follows the pattern HassleCat Jul 2015 #58
While you're at it, I'd like to see the MIC totally defunded, Banksters in prison their spoils Dont call me Shirley Jul 2015 #80
Centrists here told LGBT to STFU and were Zorra Jul 2015 #60
Bill Clinton: "This isn't an arrangement! This is a marriage! closeupready Jul 2015 #61
Even my hero Howard Dean didn't believe it would happen mainer Jul 2015 #62
and now of course it's entirely their doing MisterP Jul 2015 #65
"How to piss off gay posters." Hell Hath No Fury Jul 2015 #67
It's a rainbow pony that I'll hapily ride. blackspade Jul 2015 #72
Someone has to push the fence sitters one way or the other. Exilednight Jul 2015 #75
but, I STILL want a pony. ChairmanAgnostic Jul 2015 #76
I remember that too. Clear as day. Zenlitened Jul 2015 #77
I remember that too. I remember being TOLD THAT and that The Left was going to lose sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #79
A lot of people's hearts and minds were changed quickly Politicub Jul 2015 #82
Kicked and recommended to the Max! Those "centrists" are actually righties. Enthusiast Jul 2015 #96
Justice Anthony Kennedy was a Reagan appointee IronLionZion Jul 2015 #98
You are absolutely correct. I remember the centrists' term "poutrage" for referring to civil rights. RadiationTherapy Jul 2015 #100
What is the point of this post Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2015 #105
Your name doesn't seem to me to be a good fit. You seem to be appologizing for the rhett o rick Jul 2015 #147
I'm defending realism/pragmatism Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2015 #161
Pragmatism is used as an excuse for inaction. rhett o rick Jul 2015 #197
Pragmatism Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2015 #218
I am so glad we did not STFU Jamastiene Jul 2015 #108
Exactly. Zenlitened Jul 2015 #146
I remember that too Aerows Jul 2015 #116
I remember those folk,plenty of them right here on DU Skittles Jul 2015 #120
For the people with Aerows Jul 2015 #134
I kicked their ass whenever I saw them Skittles Jul 2015 #135
The pony was supposed to appear on the day after Inauguration, without having to shovel pony shit.... Hekate Jul 2015 #121
Wait....so now it's the President who worked hard for Equality? Marrah_G Jul 2015 #125
Good to know activists have the power to sign bills &executive orders &direct the military as CIC... Hekate Jul 2015 #129
The President had a few words about that: Bluenorthwest Jul 2015 #192
I agree with him too, but if he had not been doing his job, they might still be waiting. Hekate Jul 2015 #230
Yes...it is all the doing of the guy who was against it LondonReign2 Jul 2015 #243
Here is this fucking appalling thread Aerows Jul 2015 #127
Piss poor political analysis...We lost because it's hard to get our base to turn out for... DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #139
Why is this poster not banned? BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #151
Your guess Aerows Jul 2015 #166
I agree. Calling LGBT activists "brazen" is about as reactionary as it gets. n/t nomorenomore08 Jul 2015 #177
It's disgusting BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #179
And they got a fabulous unicorn instead. Kablooie Jul 2015 #132
But Daddy, I want a Pony!!! Tab Jul 2015 #136
But Daddy, I want a Pony!!! Tab Jul 2015 #137
Our tent Aerows Jul 2015 #165
I suspect social change always starts out with a radical idea that with time and effort mythology Jul 2015 #138
where would we be without this kind of thinking? niyad Jul 2015 #149
It's not about the what Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2015 #219
"Think big!" Admiral Loinpresser Jul 2015 #157
Hey, I still want that pony! marym625 Jul 2015 #163
And you have plenty of rights. U4ikLefty Jul 2015 #170
Yep libodem Jul 2015 #173
Everybody needs a platform, I guess. Even if it's merely the lack of one. nomorenomore08 Jul 2015 #176
I remember that, including the "gay purge" here gollygee Jul 2015 #183
This did not come about accidentally. The Human Rights Campaign and other groups merrily Jul 2015 #184
I can remember fighting for "civil unions" just so we could get our LGBT brothers and sisters a seat LaydeeBug Jul 2015 #209
Tons of Bernie supporters in this thread agree with you. Two Hillary supporters disagree. ieoeja Jul 2015 #216
I noticed that Aerows Jul 2015 #235
Had the OP title had something about Bernie or Hillary, they would have flocked in here, and ... ieoeja Jul 2015 #236
Embracing progressive economic policies frees us all Aerows Jul 2015 #237
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