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156. You are not alone-it is a relief to know I am not the only one
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 11:08 PM
Jul 2015

Every since the state of Washington let my working daughter die from a perfectly correctable condition that if we had money would have been taken care of. Her life was worth only $3 to this government. I do not pledge alligence, or sing the anthem. I see too much evil accepted in this country

Only when I had to in school. Not since. NRaleighLiberal Jun 2015 #1
I stopped after school also. NOLALady Jul 2015 #81
Me, too. No blind patriotism here. nruthie Jul 2015 #86
I never heard of doing this in school. Cassidy1 Jul 2015 #143
No. And Ronald Reagan began that practice. You don't see any presidents doing it roguevalley Jul 2015 #183
pre Reagan, it was enough to stand Warpy Jul 2015 #227
Makes no sense. Why do I need to hold my heart to sing an old war song? immoderate Jul 2015 #231
Stopped in the 1970's GoneOffShore Jun 2015 #2
Yeah, the 60's did it for me... haikugal Jun 2015 #4
Me too, after the Time-Life photos of the My Lai massacre were published. Laffy Kat Jun 2015 #15
Same here. MuseRider Jul 2015 #182
Same with baseball games! Laffy Kat Jul 2015 #185
Sure. I'll sing the anthem too. Snobblevitch Jun 2015 #3
It's not "undemocratic"... Contrary1 Jun 2015 #27
Why? Snobblevitch Jul 2015 #57
Nothing at all to do with whether it is democratic. Ms. Toad Jun 2015 #50
Huh? Snobblevitch Jul 2015 #56
Ok, here's how I feel about it... Contrary1 Jul 2015 #59
Read my post again. Snobblevitch Jul 2015 #62
"Under God" was added to the Pledge in 1954... Human101948 Jul 2015 #67
You are not alone-it is a relief to know I am not the only one Stargazer99 Jul 2015 #156
I'm terribly sorry you had to go through that. I DO feel the same about the pledge and the anthem. BlueJazz Jul 2015 #230
Outrageous. I also don't blame you. closeupready Jul 2015 #239
As I said, it is a glorification of war (as the U.S. was fighting off an attack). Ms. Toad Jul 2015 #60
Methinks you and I would get along fabulously! Contrary1 Jul 2015 #61
Snobblevitch wrote: Cassidy1 Jul 2015 #145
You need to re-read my post. Snobblevitch Jul 2015 #160
No, I don't need to reread it. Cassidy1 Jul 2015 #165
Without the Revolutionary War Snobblevitch Jul 2015 #167
Events in 1960's changed everything for me. That's the context which continues today 2banon Jul 2015 #208
When I was a kid we celebrated Snobblevitch Jul 2015 #210
Good Ole' Red White and Blue.. 2banon Jul 2015 #213
I don't know how much romance there will be... Snobblevitch Jul 2015 #216
How do you see that? cwydro Jul 2015 #70
I was in France last year and our tour bus stopped at a restaurant somewhere on our CTyankee Jul 2015 #91
Isn't that a nice memory? I'm not sure if they still do this, but closeupready Jul 2015 #240
Read the lyrics. Ms. Toad Jul 2015 #132
It is un-Progressive. ncjustice80 Jul 2015 #68
Really? TeddyR Jul 2015 #71
Post removed Post removed Jul 2015 #152
Showing respect for the flag and the anthem Snobblevitch Jul 2015 #97
Not putting your hand over Cassidy1 Jul 2015 #153
I never claimed otherwise. Snobblevitch Jul 2015 #161
I never said you claimed it. Cassidy1 Jul 2015 #166
Then you probably should not have posted it as a reply to my post. Snobblevitch Jul 2015 #172
HA! I am SOOOOO over everything! I don't watch baseball so I became ill... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Jun 2015 #5
What? thought they've been play GBA for a century? or may just NYC. nt Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2015 #21
Wut? Everyone for a century sings "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" WhaTHellsgoingonhere Jun 2015 #28
duh. wow..I think must have had Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2015 #43
I hate it so much, I always head to the bathroom for the 7th inning stretch. alarimer Jul 2015 #77
Really? Cassidy1 Jul 2015 #146
Yes, you are not to leave your seat unless there is a break in the action. alarimer Jul 2015 #171
yes Skittles Jun 2015 #6
Indeed Sgt! Glassunion Jun 2015 #10
So the antics/crimes of Bush and us killing people not affect your thinking at all? Not Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2015 #23
The "antics/crimes of Bush and us killing people" TeddyR Jul 2015 #72
agree 100% NM_Birder Jul 2015 #94
I agree 100% leftynyc Jul 2015 #98
+1 Glassunion Jul 2015 #188
I never have Peregrine Jun 2015 #7
That's what I was taught in school. Mister Ed Jun 2015 #13
That is what I was taught too. nt Live and Learn Jun 2015 #40
I think those are the rules. immoderate Jul 2015 #103
Taught the same. DawgHouse Jul 2015 #119
I do. while I think the patriotic ritual and obligatory "yay troops!" is pretty petronius Jun 2015 #8
The military actually pays the NFL Cassidy1 Jul 2015 #148
Sorry, visceral reaction because we lost our mind after 9/11... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Jun 2015 #9
? Skittles Jun 2015 #12
As have I, Skittles, and I salute you for it. 11 Bravo Jul 2015 #126
when I lived in England, I stood when they played God Save the Queen Skittles Jul 2015 #137
It's a matter of respect, and honoring an ideal pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #144
CORRECT Skittles Jul 2015 #149
+1 DashOneBravo Jul 2015 #217
No. It's not necessary... ms liberty Jun 2015 #11
Uh, no. Never have. NV Whino Jun 2015 #14
just curious...why? I find myself at big events where I am the only one not. nt Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2015 #24
It was never expected when I was a kid NV Whino Jul 2015 #89
I am the president of the Marana Democratic club and the Sunflower Democratic Club OffWithTheirHeads Jun 2015 #16
Perhaps you can take a different perspective CajunBlazer Jul 2015 #211
No. That's not something I ever did. City Lights Jun 2015 #17
I usually just stand, and feel a little uncomfortable at that. Alkene Jun 2015 #18
Embarrassing armpit stains? jberryhill Jun 2015 #30
No bigwillq Jun 2015 #19
Sometimes....other times no. Just depends on if I'm wearing a hat or not. ileus Jun 2015 #20
yes.. Liberal_in_LA Jun 2015 #22
Nope. And why the hell is the anthem played at sporting events? Arugula Latte Jun 2015 #25
Yep. The whole thing is creeptacular in 2015. HughBeaumont Jul 2015 #117
I do shenmue Jun 2015 #26
No. Never have Spirochete Jun 2015 #29
No. Not for a long time now. pscot Jun 2015 #31
I will stand at attention...at least no slouching GP6971 Jun 2015 #32
No; I sing. elleng Jun 2015 #33
Post removed Post removed May 2016 #242
The American fascination with the Anthem and the pledge are signs of fascism. guillaumeb Jun 2015 #34
What fascination? leftynyc Jul 2015 #100
My point was the obsession with symbolic demonstrations of patriotism. guillaumeb Jul 2015 #121
of course I do grasswire Jun 2015 #35
Yes. Stand up, hat (if any) off, hand over heart. nt kelly1mm Jun 2015 #36
people put too much value on symbolism particularly conservatives. craigmatic Jun 2015 #37
I won't even stand up. Luminous Animal Jun 2015 #38
wow very ballsy n t Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2015 #44
In my case, it is very ovaries-y. I stopped standing when I was 12 years old to protest the Viet Nam Luminous Animal Jun 2015 #46
I applaud you. you must be stronger than Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2015 #48
I do. 840high Jun 2015 #39
I always place my hand over my heart. dem in texas Jun 2015 #41
I don't equate it to the brave people Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2015 #47
YES ! olddots Jun 2015 #42
Yes. Only time I didn't was when I was in Uniform. Then, I saluted. nt stevenleser Jun 2015 #45
Same. linuxman Jul 2015 #63
Nope. Ms. Toad Jun 2015 #49
Without fail, whenever I hear the anthem played, my mind will wander to this... Contrary1 Jul 2015 #58
Are We Democrats Not True Americans? CajunBlazer Jun 2015 #51
This is an outstanding post TeddyR Jul 2015 #73
great post - from another vet DrDan Jul 2015 #75
Same here DashOneBravo Jul 2015 #218
I Stopped Doing It In the Early 70's ProfessorGAC Jul 2015 #78
Really? CajunBlazer Jul 2015 #113
Your Cites Are Reinforcing My Opinion ProfessorGAC Jul 2015 #122
Gestures are only meaningless... CajunBlazer Jul 2015 #155
No, that is not the section in question. Cassidy1 Jul 2015 #164
Oh, it's a law alright.... CajunBlazer Jul 2015 #170
It does not include enforcement provisions. johnkramer Jul 2015 #176
You are absolutely right CajunBlazer Jul 2015 #194
Sorry, no hand over the heart, jingo jango for me. Darb Jul 2015 #92
Please see my reply in Post #113 n/t CajunBlazer Jul 2015 #115
Great post leftynyc Jul 2015 #102
Bush was just the impetus - As long as our country is killing innocents ) I will not Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2015 #139
I think this is a good point. Cassidy1 Jul 2015 #150
I quit years ago SCantiGOP Jun 2015 #52
I never stopped. I'm not a "fair-weather" type of person in any respect. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #53
I like that sentiment nil desperandum Jul 2015 #96
Drops mic..walks off stage. Inkfreak Jul 2015 #133
I'll never understand the dropped mic thing! lol n/t cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #135
I don't for the pledge either & have become your friends with other non hand over heart people too. uppityperson Jul 2015 #54
Stopped saluting in 1965. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2015 #55
No. Grey Jul 2015 #64
I never have. Blue_In_AK Jul 2015 #65
I'm usually grabbing another beer. PeteSelman Jul 2015 #66
Do you put your hand over your heart during the National Anthem? Hayduke Bomgarte Jul 2015 #69
People would think I was weird if I did that... Violet_Crumble Jul 2015 #74
No. I Don't ProfessorGAC Jul 2015 #76
always n/t chillfactor Jul 2015 #79
Mostly no. alarimer Jul 2015 #80
I fold my arms and put on my grouchy face Man from Pickens Jul 2015 #82
I bet you're fun at Christmas. tavernier Jul 2015 #125
I can be, for the right price Man from Pickens Jul 2015 #159
omg roflmao Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2015 #224
Yes, and feel totally guilty if I don't when the flag passes by in the Memorial Day parade. woodsprite Jul 2015 #83
Nah, but I didn't do it to be cool The2ndWheel Jul 2015 #84
I'm a veteran; I stand at attention. Half-Century Man Jul 2015 #85
According to the flag code...... CajunBlazer Jul 2015 #112
That's a relatively recent change (October 2008) pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #124
I'm not sure if it is a recent change or not.... CajunBlazer Jul 2015 #169
Same Here DustyJoe Jul 2015 #205
Perhaps it's time to rewrite the Pledge. GoneOffShore Jul 2015 #87
No. LWolf Jul 2015 #88
Yes, absolutely . nt clarice Jul 2015 #90
absolutely, .......also take your hat off, .....sing it or be quiet. NM_Birder Jul 2015 #93
Great post! Texasgal Jul 2015 #187
Excellent Post! CajunBlazer Jul 2015 #195
"I didn't know that some believe that hatred of our country is a prerequisite Contrary1 Jul 2015 #199
Maybe "hatred" is too strong a word CajunBlazer Jul 2015 #200
Yeah TeddyR Jul 2015 #209
- 1 Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2015 #223
Bah bye again. You are not a dem and not liberal - don't think this is really Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2015 #222
Well, you don't know what you don't know... CajunBlazer Jul 2015 #226
Wow. No, don't know you. All any of us can judge by are the comments you have made Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2015 #235
Bah bye Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2015 #220
- 1 Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2015 #219
Great post A--Number 1 nt Freelancer Jul 2015 #232
Yes, I do davidpdx Jul 2015 #95
I stand at the position of attention (like I did when I was in the army) Victor_c3 Jul 2015 #99
Same here. In the Corps they told us to stand at attention in civvies Recursion Jul 2015 #107
I do the same. nt hack89 Jul 2015 #109
Nope Kelvin Mace Jul 2015 #101
I put mine over someone else's heart jberryhill Jul 2015 #104
Yep. raouldukelives Jul 2015 #105
In the military I got in the habit of standing in attention and never went back to hand over heart Recursion Jul 2015 #106
I have a beer in one hand and hotdog in the other NightWatcher Jul 2015 #108
Nope. Not sure that I ever have. Iggo Jul 2015 #110
Right hand over heart, hat in left hand. Throd Jul 2015 #111
Never have...no reason to start, or stop Horse with no Name Jul 2015 #114
I do. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #116
I stand respectfully, hat off if necessary, and that's about it. HughBeaumont Jul 2015 #118
Not if it's on TV. KamaAina Jul 2015 #120
Now that's funny !!! KA Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2015 #140
Yes, in public. tavernier Jul 2015 #123
The only time I've actually heard anyone sing it, Jamastiene Jul 2015 #127
+1 Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2015 #141
Yes. tymorial Jul 2015 #128
NO. Hands at small of my back. benld74 Jul 2015 #129
No. AngryOldDem Jul 2015 #130
Nope, i just stand n/t shanti Jul 2015 #131
Yea, it doesn't bug me. (nt) Inkfreak Jul 2015 #134
Not usually asturias31 Jul 2015 #136
Very well said! n/t CajunBlazer Jul 2015 #157
Yes. hay rick Jul 2015 #138
Sometimes I Do Liberal_Dog Jul 2015 #142
If I'm watching on TV, Jamaal510 Jul 2015 #147
Some People Give Me Grief, But I Have To Say... ChiciB1 Jul 2015 #151
I would not give you grief. Cassidy1 Jul 2015 #154
Thanks, Many I Know Disagree... ChiciB1 Jul 2015 #174
Let down by whom? CajunBlazer Jul 2015 #158
The country is not providing you the right to sit. Cassidy1 Jul 2015 #162
I think we are parsing words here CajunBlazer Jul 2015 #173
That is not the meaning of the word parsing. johnkramer Jul 2015 #181
You need to spend some time with some good histrory books CajunBlazer Jul 2015 #191
You need to spend some time with good common sense. johnkramer Jul 2015 #193
It is obvious you haven't read my post CajunBlazer Jul 2015 #196
If I did not read it, then I would have not been able to point out the logical fallacies. johnkramer Jul 2015 #198
Give me a break please CajunBlazer Jul 2015 #201
It's a good thing that the British and Russians did not cave like you. johnkramer Jul 2015 #206
One more time only CajunBlazer Jul 2015 #214
I understand that there a times when you have to fight. johnkramer Jul 2015 #215
The Imperial Japanese didn't even take Hawaii when they had the chance Art_from_Ark Jul 2015 #197
I agree.... CajunBlazer Jul 2015 #202
There Ya Go... n/t ChiciB1 Jul 2015 #175
I do not. lovemydog Jul 2015 #163
No B Calm Jul 2015 #168
No. And I've stopped singing as well. mnhtnbb Jul 2015 #177
I will stand but not sing, not pledge, no hand over heart. Paper Roses Jul 2015 #178
How can the star spangled banner yet wave o'er the land of the free... iscooterliberally Jul 2015 #179
But sitting doesn't change that. Freelancer Jul 2015 #233
No, sitting doesn't change anything. iscooterliberally Jul 2015 #237
I generally stand at attention snpsmom Jul 2015 #180
No. I was taught to do it during the pledge, then take it down when singing the anthem. ancianita Jul 2015 #184
No. Boomerproud Jul 2015 #186
true dat B Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2015 #225
Yes. Yes indeed. Glassunion Jul 2015 #189
When Ice Cube sings nilesobek Jul 2015 #190
No, and can't remember when I stopped. mountain grammy Jul 2015 #192
Nope. If I say the pledge, and as an adult it's only been a couple of brewens Jul 2015 #203
Flag etiquette Beartracks Jul 2015 #204
No I don't. i stopped in 1968. 2banon Jul 2015 #207
No I don't IVoteDFL Jul 2015 #212
Yes, and also during the Pledge. ladyVet Jul 2015 #221
No, I stand at attention tularetom Jul 2015 #228
No... malokvale77 Jul 2015 #229
This message was self-deleted by its author Freelancer Jul 2015 #234
"And yes, if I knew you, I would think less of you from then on" is the Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2015 #236
This message was self-deleted by its author Freelancer Jul 2015 #238
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I can't remember the last time I attended anything where it was played. tanyev May 2016 #243
Surely surely if you live in Texas?? they have prayers before cake sales nt Laura PourMeADrink May 2016 #244
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