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shaayecanaan

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Mon Jul 6, 2015, 08:37 PM Jul 2015

Monogamy wasn't invented for the benefit of women [View all]

it was invented for the benefit of men. Specifically, it was pioneered about three thousand years ago by the Greek city states who found it was necessary, for the sake of social stability, to minimise the number of discontented, socially unattached men. This was best done by maximising each man's prospects of marriage by limiting all men to one wife each. Of course, it was still perfectly fine for men to sleep with other women on the side (and it still is). But such women only had the status of concubines, floozies, prostitutes or slaves. They needed to marry to obtain any sort of station in life.

In a society without any kind of government safety net (which remains the case for three-quarters of humans living today) women typically need to marry in order to survive. Given that men die more often from infant mortality, war and famine, this means that generally women have a relatively limited pool of men from which to make their selection. It also means that in a society with strictly enforced monogamy, every man, no matter how violent or impoverished has a decent shot at obtaining a spouse.

Polygamy naturally affords women a greater variety of choices. A prospective bride doesn't necessarily have to resign herself to being the first wife of a destitute and desperate alcoholic if she has the alternative of becoming the second or third wife of a more stable and prosperous partner. It also means that in the event of war or famine depleting the pool of available men, that a woman will not necessarily have to resign herself to a life of solitude on society's margins. It is for these reasons that even the mainline Christian churches in Africa endorse polygamy, realising that it is the only viable social solution for these women.

Polygamy also tends to function as a crude form of socialism. It enables the more prosperous to have more children, which results in wealth being divided amongst more people and a tendency to avoid the over-concentration of wealth that has occurred in western societies.



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You may be referring to legal marriage because... WestCoastLib Jul 2015 #1
What utter nonsense. Polygamy was invented for the benefit of powerful men. n/t pnwmom Jul 2015 #2
Polygamy was never invented shaayecanaan Jul 2015 #4
The legal system of polygamy was invented by powerful men. pnwmom Jul 2015 #11
Did the Greek invention of monogamous marriage TexasProgresive Jul 2015 #3
Polygamy was only formally outlawed in 1945 in Japan shaayecanaan Jul 2015 #6
It was only practiced by very small cults and was/is not a normative societal value riderinthestorm Jul 2015 #13
The New Testament has Jesus giving very direct man and wife, no divorce forever guidelines. Bluenorthwest Jul 2015 #14
Rubbish shaayecanaan Jul 2015 #21
He most certainly did. Sorry but it's the text. Bluenorthwest Jul 2015 #23
There were instances in the bible Mojorabbit Jul 2015 #57
There are also references in Chinese literature to second wife, third wife, etc. Warpy Jul 2015 #35
China, Japan, Native American cultures etc - all of whom are older than Greece riderinthestorm Jul 2015 #9
I don't know much about native American societies shaayecanaan Jul 2015 #12
This is historical revisionism and its pretty badly done riderinthestorm Jul 2015 #16
A couple of points shaayecanaan Jul 2015 #19
Not entirely, see above Warpy Jul 2015 #36
Kewl story bro! riderinthestorm Jul 2015 #5
I have never needed a man to "survive" Skittles Jul 2015 #7
Probably because you've never been hungry enough shaayecanaan Jul 2015 #8
Predictable DU. Two people who agree, but who disagree on closeupready Jul 2015 #29
Fair point shaayecanaan Jul 2015 #30
did you miss my last sentence? Skittles Jul 2015 #41
No shaayecanaan Jul 2015 #48
take some reading comprehension classes, PLEASE Skittles Jul 2015 #49
You don't have much in the way of writing skills either shaayecanaan Jul 2015 #56
Going it alone can be very satisfying Warpy Jul 2015 #37
I just don't do all the bullshit people expect from women Skittles Jul 2015 #42
Fine RobinA Jul 2015 #67
Second Wife ... Third Wife? Bad Thoughts Jul 2015 #10
True shaayecanaan Jul 2015 #15
Wow. Bluenorthwest Jul 2015 #17
Socialism would remove hierarchy PowerToThePeople Jul 2015 #18
Yes shaayecanaan Jul 2015 #20
Longhouses of the indigenous peoples of North America sgtbenobo Jul 2015 #52
Domestic plural marriages among consenting adults Warpy Jul 2015 #39
Ayn Rand fan aren't you MattBaggins Jul 2015 #50
Wow, this is some seriously delusional nonsense mythology Jul 2015 #22
That is confusing causation with correlation shaayecanaan Jul 2015 #26
Polygamy goes both ways. panader0 Jul 2015 #24
No argument from me shaayecanaan Jul 2015 #27
What woman would be interested in having several husbands? For many of us, it's hard Nay Jul 2015 #59
Anthropologist Marvin Harris: betsuni Jul 2015 #25
I'm a woman and I do not believe monogamy is natural IVoteDFL Jul 2015 #28
Why?? Absolutely destructive to women. Are these men who are fucking around with all the women they Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2015 #32
At one point marriage in itself was destructive to women IVoteDFL Jul 2015 #33
Describe the benefits to women. Are there any? What are the responsibilities of the men? Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2015 #34
Polygamy isn't necessarily one man + several women. IVoteDFL Jul 2015 #65
If society accepted Polyandry, I could see that and perhaps get down with this. But more often than Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2015 #72
Then They Don't RobinA Jul 2015 #69
The problem is with "consent". asturias31 Jul 2015 #53
I stress, not everyone who would enter into a polygamous marriage is religious IVoteDFL Jul 2015 #66
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2015 #70
that's some pretty judgmental, broadbrush stuff there fizzgig Jul 2015 #44
natural is an extremely relative term fizzgig Jul 2015 #47
Polygamy = an excuse for men to be irresponsible and use women as sex objects...and have sex Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2015 #31
Nothing illegal about using women as sex objects shaayecanaan Jul 2015 #38
Who said anything about illegality? I stated that I don't agree that infected dicks infecting women Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2015 #40
I'm not sure that polygamy necessarily involves a greater prevalence of infected dicks shaayecanaan Jul 2015 #45
Since when did not illegal mean the right thing to do? kcr Jul 2015 #43
Its not. I'm not suggesting that you should have a gay marriage shaayecanaan Jul 2015 #46
Yes, but consenting adults is also not the only issue. kcr Jul 2015 #51
Actually - I thought JustAnotherGen Jul 2015 #58
Essentially, yes shaayecanaan Jul 2015 #60
Girls don't get a choice in the fundamentalist Mormon community JustAnotherGen Jul 2015 #63
In the future I would like no such thing as marriage gwheezie Jul 2015 #54
Will someone please remind me.... sgtbenobo Jul 2015 #55
Pseudo intellectual bullshit. romanic Jul 2015 #61
I knocked it out on my phone in about five minutes shaayecanaan Jul 2015 #62
The ancient Egyptians too, except for the king, were monogamus. bklyncowgirl Jul 2015 #64
show me a country/society where both gender equality and polygamy is legal. La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2015 #68
Monagamy was not invented...marriage was invented... joeybee12 Jul 2015 #71
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