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DirkGently

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19. 8. No more "no-knock warrants" without MAJOR cause.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 07:18 PM
Jul 2015

I don't think we're going to get rid of S.W.A.T. type weapons and tactics entirely. One reminder about bullet-proof vest-wearing bank robbers with AK-47s will nix that. But, wow, yes, have they ever gone overboard with the APCs and heavy weapons and over-the-top entries.

The paramilitary approach has become standard. An infant was badly burned recently when cops announced their presence by flinging "flash-bang" grenades through the windows before bursting in with weapons drawn. No drugs were found. "Wrong house."

Oops. And it's not that uncommon. An anonymous tip can lead to a full-on action-movie assault, complete with explosions and guns to foreheads. If the residents get scared of black-garbed attackers breaking in and hesitate or resist, they are shot to death immediately.

The Constitution requires protection against unreasonable search and seizure. "No-knock warrants" began during one of the country's anti-drug freakouts, and were supposed to keep dealers from flushing all of the evidence before the police could enter, and to provide some extra protection from heavily armed criminals.

It's become just the way it's done. People and pets are shot when offering no threat; dangerous flash-bangs can cripple or kill. All so the police aren't inconvenienced by some flushed drugs or the smallest possibility of resistance.

If there isn't some kind of solid evidence that a suspect is armed and resistant, the police can knock and announce themselves. They can wait a short period of time to be admitted to the premises. They can refrain from throwing bombs through the windows.

They can find out if they're even at the right freaking house.

Some of this is ridiculous. tymorial Jul 2015 #1
It is my understanding... kentuck Jul 2015 #4
None of it is rediculous. marble falls Jul 2015 #11
2 & 3 Glassunion Jul 2015 #13
A lot of that would be good. However, until we limit arms yahoos can buy, I Hoyt Jul 2015 #2
I doubt that Telcontar Jul 2015 #3
You doubt what? Is there some reason gun fanciers often respond like that? Hoyt Jul 2015 #8
Odd, the rest of my post is gone Telcontar Jul 2015 #9
I did not say bar them. I said to be wary. Hoyt Jul 2015 #12
do you mean cargo pants? If any police force is wearing parachute pants... yurbud Jul 2015 #5
how about a personality test on entrance and periodic background checks AFTER hiring yurbud Jul 2015 #6
someone suggested revocable national licensing for cops, so when an abusive cop is fired... yurbud Jul 2015 #7
a very dangerous idea: have black "secret shoppers," undercover yurbud Jul 2015 #10
Steroid testing. gvstn Jul 2015 #14
There are 12,000 separate police jurisdictions from village, towns, townships, counties, CK_John Jul 2015 #15
I know that a law or rule requiring Snobblevitch Jul 2015 #16
I'm not normally a big proponent of affirmative action Nye Bevan Jul 2015 #17
Absoposilutely. Representation is important to breaking racially biased law enforcement by... marble falls Jul 2015 #18
Look at that NYPD beating posted today madville Jul 2015 #20
8. No more "no-knock warrants" without MAJOR cause. DirkGently Jul 2015 #19
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