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ericson00

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5. How many elections in the last 125 years have a different popular vote & electoral vote winner?

Wed Jul 22, 2015, 08:39 PM

Jul 2015

the answer is 1, election 2000*. In our entire history as a country, 4 times, out of 57 elections. The popular vote winner wins the electoral college a whopping 93% of the time. The chance that no one who has ever posted on this site will ever see another popular vote loser but electoral vote winner in his/her lifetimes is very, very high.

Perot got his highest percentages of vote came from states that either:
a. had few electoral votes
b. went to one candidate by at least 8 percentage points

For Bush to have won the electoral college, he'd have needed to win nearly every state he lost by less than 5%, which doesn't happen when your approvals are barely 40%. Such a map would look like this And Wisconsin voted Dukakis. You take that away from Bush even in that map, he still loses.

Frankly, the type of person who thinks Bush would have won without Perot in the race is the same kind of person who denies climate change.

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Taking on the Zombie Perot-Myth/Smear (With Maddow video) [View all] ericson00 Jul 2015 OP

People forget that Perot's support had dwindled to a trickle by election time. Chemisse Jul 2015 #1

his support didn't "seem" to come from both sides, ericson00 Jul 2015 #3

Clinton did not win a majority in 1996 either. former9thward Jul 2015 #2

How many elections in the last 125 years have a different popular vote & electoral vote winner? ericson00 Jul 2015 #5

Intersting you use "125 years" former9thward Jul 2015 #7

did you read the post? ericson00 Jul 2015 #8

Current System is Precarious mvymvy Jul 2015 #20

pork-barrel spending will never allow a national popular vote ericson00 Jul 2015 #21

Only 7 Swing States Expected in 2016 mvymvy Jul 2015 #35

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #11

GOP talking points are disruptive ericson00 Jul 2015 #12

Still sore about it, huh? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2015 #23

Its not different than "I am not a scientist" ericson00 Jul 2015 #25

Republicans can shut their f'ing mouths ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2015 #27

its amazing how on progressive blogs the myth is almost as popular ericson00 Jul 2015 #28

You hate election facts. former9thward Jul 2015 #32

also he did win a majority, a "relative majority", a synonym for plurality ericson00 Jul 2015 #37

Nice try but i don't buy that 1992 was a realigning election for a minute. craigmatic Jul 2015 #4

you sound like a Republican ericson00 Jul 2015 #6

1994? 1939 Jul 2015 #9

I'm talking about Presidential elections here ericson00 Jul 2015 #10

1800, 1828, 1932, 1980, 2008 those were realigning elections. If Clinton changed the electorate so craigmatic Jul 2015 #13

you can't win 'em all. And Gore was a media unsavvy gaffe machine. ericson00 Jul 2015 #14

The reason the republicans stopped winning so many electoral votes is because craigmatic Jul 2015 #15

Your definition of realignment leaves out 1968 ericson00 Jul 2015 #16

Most people don't consider 1968 realigning because policy didn't really change neither did craigmatic Jul 2015 #17

"most people?" ericson00 Jul 2015 #18

We'll just never agree on Clinton's importance. craigmatic Jul 2015 #22

Ruth Bader Ginsberg and Stephen Breyer ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2015 #24

The electoral votes of CA, DE, MD, IL, ME, NH, VT, PA, MI, NJ, CT, ericson00 Jul 2015 #26

SCOTUS justices are the bare minimum of what we expect of a democratic president. craigmatic Jul 2015 #33

and so ought to be electoral votes. The guy who fought ericson00 Jul 2015 #34

EVs are important but so are coalitions and more importantly policy. craigmatic Jul 2015 #36

Also, if you, like me, are offended by the smear against the facts the Clintons, ericson00 Jul 2015 #19

If anyone has a WSJ account, ericson00 Jul 2015 #29

Rachel covered this tonight Gothmog Jul 2015 #30

I know! She was epic ericson00 Jul 2015 #31