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Response to Lone_Wolf (Reply #42)

Thu Jul 23, 2015, 11:38 AM

43. Right.

Libous attempted to lecture me about his "doing more for local schools than anyone in the state." I knew he was upset at the prospect of having high school students hold rallies in front of his Binghamton and Norwich offices (while they were not going to take a stance on fracking,they had sent letters to his office saying his refusal to meet with the pro-environmental community was unacceptable, and the opposite of what they were being taught in civics classes).

In fact, old Tom had been okay in some instances -- but that was his job. And he tended to do something "special" -- not make real changes in funding -- so he could get his picture in the local papers. But, in the past year, he betrayed upstate schools ....including the smaller, rural ones, and the larger ones in cities.

While Crouch would be the obvious choice, I'm not sure. He's getting older, and may be looking to retire. For several years, I've been urged to run against him for assembly. I am not able to, because years ago, he worked with Chief Waterman, and helped us preserve a burial ground in the town of Greene.

Crouch and his top assistant came to Onondaga, to meet with us to discuss the growing conflict between the construction industry -- which was well-organized in opposition to Indians having any say on things the industry viewed as "resources," and which we recognize as Sacred Ground -- and us. Now, the construction industry and the interests in fracking overlap to the extent that they are virtually one in the same. But Crouch, who comes from a multi-generational farming family, understood what Paul and I said. And he came out on our side, despite the very real displeasure of the opposition. Hence, in our way, while I can oppose him on issues like fracking, I cannot run against him.

I'll also add that there was a case where a mid-ranking state employee attempted to "buy" influence, by way of deals with one of Crouch's family's businesses. And Crouch turned the guy in. That's just the opposite of Libous's nature.

He is also good on upstate schools.

So, while I disagree with Crouch on fracking, etc, I think he is superior to Libous. If he does end up in the state senate, I'll be meeting with him in the same manner that Paul and I did. I won't have to go on another hunger strike.

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