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misterhighwasted

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10. Hmmm. "Trump beats all GOP candidates (including Jeb), but
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 10:51 PM
Jul 2015

Hillary trumps Trump."
As reported on MSNBC earliet today.

So if this is true, how can Bush be beating Hillary?
Did Bush just zoom past Clinton & Trump in the last 6 hours?
Aw c'mon Rachael..not possible.

no experienced politician is beloved virtualobserver Jul 2015 #1
Not what Hillary supporters have been tellin us about the polls for months now, i.e., how Hillary beats all comers. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2015 #30
and not what Bernie supporters have been telling us either, because bush wins by 5 points over still_one Jul 2015 #35
Yes, would be interesting to see. Maybe we will. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2015 #43
I don't think we will though. The problem is I think this poll is using the model that assumes still_one Jul 2015 #46
Nope-- Bernie beats Bush, and all other Republicans Art_from_Ark Jul 2015 #57
That is a CNN Poll NOT the quinnipiac poll, which is what this thread is about. You are clever to still_one Jul 2015 #69
In other words, one poll shows Bernie losing Art_from_Ark Jul 2015 #75
I think the latest poll, which is the quinnipac poll is an outlier. Both Hillary and Bernie lose in still_one Jul 2015 #79
Yes, there is NO way a real poll where repubs arent oversampled does Hillary AllFieldsRequired Jul 2015 #126
Because Independents are a solid minority VanillaRhapsody Jul 2015 #66
Independents are what have been determining elections. Most republicans do not vote for Democrats, still_one Jul 2015 #71
What????? VanillaRhapsody Jul 2015 #73
You don't think independents are significant? They make or break elections. The stats you quote still_one Jul 2015 #77
All but 10% of "independents" consistently vote along party lines to almost the same degree seaglass Jul 2015 #97
OK, I will take yours and VanillaRhapsody's assessment that most independents are not truly independents. However, still_one Jul 2015 #111
Bernie beats all three top Republicans in the latest national poll. sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #74
THAT IS NOT THE LATEST POLL, That is from July 26, 2010. The poll in THIS THREAD is from July 30th still_one Jul 2015 #78
Q seems to be the only poll with the Republicans at any kind of advantage for next year's race. Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2015 #87
Long road to go but the fact that anyone would Juicy_Bellows Jul 2015 #2
I understand that ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #3
And probably under sampled young people csziggy Jul 2015 #8
They polled 681 Dems and 710 Rethugs and even then got a result well within the margin of error. n/t pnwmom Jul 2015 #21
Really.. thanks for that, 1StrongBlackMan. And, is Quinnipiac even one of those trusted Cha Jul 2015 #55
Seems trustworthy enough when it puts Clinton ahead of Sanders. Scootaloo Jul 2015 #56
So pointing out flaws ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #108
it's silly to pretend it's "flawed" only when it gives you what you don't want to hear... Scootaloo Jul 2015 #118
Okay ... Now, THAT is silly ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #120
similar flaws exist in other polls which I have seen hearty support for. Scootaloo Jul 2015 #121
Okay and thank you for the "advice" ... I will treasure it. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #124
Actually you should. it's a good way to maintain sanity during primary season. Scootaloo Jul 2015 #125
I do ... I, really do! ... Now, if only you would ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #127
Augh, my one true weakness! Improper use of commas and ellipses! Scootaloo Jul 2015 #129
I think you got the drift ... but feel free to edit it ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #130
Yes ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #110
Since you are an expert in polling former9thward Jul 2015 #59
I do not claim polling expertise; however, I have ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #106
Depends on turnout of course madville Jul 2015 #98
Per 1 person's statement? hahahahaha, don't make me laugh. We are months away from Election day trueblue2007 Jul 2015 #4
WTF is right! Kath1 Jul 2015 #5
The poll sampled 681 Dems, who liked Hillary, and 710 Rethugs, who liked Bush. pnwmom Jul 2015 #23
Then they are using the same model they used in 2012, assuming that more republican will show up still_one Jul 2015 #27
And it makes no sense. Adrahil Jul 2015 #96
Couple that with the under-representation of, both, Affrican-American and Hispanic voters ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #109
And that is a very good question, pnwmom, Kath1 Jul 2015 #32
Ugh...thanks for being an actual responder vs. the same ole same ole - "it's too Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2015 #39
I agree. Kath1 Jul 2015 #49
It isn't a bad sign when a sample containing more Rethugs than Dems pnwmom Jul 2015 #51
And, again, it isn't a bad sign when ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #115
Don't panic.... The sample in that poll was really odd. Adrahil Jul 2015 #6
Since you are an expert in polling former9thward Jul 2015 #60
How about numbers that acurately depicts the VanillaRhapsody Jul 2015 #67
Canada is about to have a national election. The campaign season will be an astonishing 10 weeks long Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #7
Are they going to give those asshole Conservatives the boot? Armstead Jul 2015 #19
Money can't turn an election campaign that's three months long, Long enough to get excited. Monk06 Jul 2015 #65
Q is the only survey with these numbers. They're an outlier. Adenoid_Hynkel Jul 2015 #9
This isn't the first time their sample has included more Rethugs than Dems, pnwmom Jul 2015 #24
Actually considering only a 1 point difference with an over sampling of republicans bodes quite well still_one Jul 2015 #38
That's what I thought. n/t pnwmom Jul 2015 #50
Not surprised at all treestar Jul 2015 #83
Hmmm. "Trump beats all GOP candidates (including Jeb), but misterhighwasted Jul 2015 #10
Quinnipac... Outlier... Just like swing state polls Godhumor Jul 2015 #11
The extreme left on DU and elsewhere has spent woolldog Jul 2015 #12
Yes of course, Sanders is totally to blame for Jeb out-polling Hillary 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #15
Lol, the Hillary crowd crack me up! Nt Logical Jul 2015 #36
well YOU crack me up. trueblue2007 Jul 2015 #92
Quit blaming bernie for her problems then. nt Logical Jul 2015 #94
Protip: Corporate Dems usually wait until their corporate candidate loses to blame the left. Marr Jul 2015 #22
Obama withstood Hillary tag-team hammering him with John McCain 3 months after AtomicKitten Jul 2015 #28
Obama is a much better woolldog Jul 2015 #37
Yes he was, and it's Bernie that's caught fire this time. AtomicKitten Jul 2015 #42
I'm sorry but Americans woolldog Jul 2015 #114
That's a rather subjective analysis. AtomicKitten Jul 2015 #117
NOBODY is "our only hope to win". John Poet Jul 2015 #80
Nobody? Not even Obi Wan? Capt. Obvious Jul 2015 #93
Oh fuck me tkmorris Jul 2015 #31
extreme left? CountAllVotes Jul 2015 #33
Well...can not help, for sure. She's got no enthusiasm behind her. nt Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2015 #40
And that is someone else's fault that she's got no enthusiasm behind her? Ms. Toad Jul 2015 #103
Doesn't matter whose fault it is. woolldog Jul 2015 #119
Which is why you started this sub-thread blaming the "extreme left on DU" Ms. Toad Jul 2015 #135
Exactly WD ! Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2015 #149
The poll over sampled republicans. What is significant, even with that there is only a 1 point gap still_one Jul 2015 #45
Oh, yes. The "extreme left" -- those who don't like Repub-lite. How dare they! Arugula Latte Jul 2015 #48
You're funny. Ok - I'll keep it up. 840high Jul 2015 #53
^^^This^^^^ VanillaRhapsody Jul 2015 #68
Cool story, bro RandiFan1290 Jul 2015 #82
Yeah, that's the ticket deutsey Jul 2015 #89
LOL! Extreme left! TransitJohn Jul 2015 #91
Keep up what you're doing, and we'll be doomed no matter who wins. FiveGoodMen Jul 2015 #133
Hillary has a viable challenger Aerows Jul 2015 #13
Jesus. It's one point. WorseBeforeBetter Jul 2015 #14
Jesus. No Dem should be behind Jeb Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2015 #41
The poll was conducted with people who actually vote towards a specific party. xmas74 Jul 2015 #61
It is???? VanillaRhapsody Jul 2015 #70
It is now estimated that 43 percent xmas74 Jul 2015 #107
not buying this "estimate" VanillaRhapsody Jul 2015 #132
Affiliating with an actual party makes us the outliers. xmas74 Jul 2015 #134
Bernie must be doing something wrong if you think its JUST name VanillaRhapsody Jul 2015 #136
Why are you yelling at me? xmas74 Jul 2015 #137
Then why the tired ass "name recognition" meme? VanillaRhapsody Jul 2015 #139
Because I don't have a problem with name recognition. xmas74 Aug 2015 #140
That is NOT what is meant when that VanillaRhapsody Aug 2015 #141
Ok, you've lost me here. xmas74 Aug 2015 #142
Then why use terms that are used to denigrate her? VanillaRhapsody Aug 2015 #143
Name recognition? xmas74 Aug 2015 #144
Let me introduce you to Democratic Underground VanillaRhapsody Aug 2015 #145
I've been here since 2004, no intro needed. xmas74 Aug 2015 #146
This poll sampled 681 Democrats and 710 Rethugs. So, surprise, surprise, they favored Bush. pnwmom Jul 2015 #16
Typical DU response. former9thward Jul 2015 #62
Fortunately, most DUers aren't that gullible. They know how to dig into the fine print. pnwmom Jul 2015 #72
NO, but is worth noting that this firm is an outlier Adenoid_Hynkel Jul 2015 #76
Normally, I'd agree... but the sample on this one is odd. Adrahil Jul 2015 #95
It is still far too early to take any polling seriously. SheilaT Jul 2015 #17
that's called a statistical tie, its MoE. Benie actually loses outside the MoE ericson00 Jul 2015 #18
And they included more Rethugs than Dems in their poll. So naturally it tilted toward Bush. n/t pnwmom Jul 2015 #20
Many USA people that are not Democratic party members PufPuf23 Jul 2015 #25
That's not even the issue with the poll. xmas74 Jul 2015 #63
42-41, and, margin of error is? what, +/-3%? Spider Jerusalem Jul 2015 #26
Who the fuck cares. It's fucking 15 months until the election! longship Jul 2015 #29
+1000 CountAllVotes Jul 2015 #34
How about you take a rest from being so fucking condescending. Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2015 #44
How about relaxing for a while... longship Jul 2015 #47
ok, I am relaxed :) Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2015 #105
Maybe you should pour yourself a drink and think about why a poll pnwmom Jul 2015 #52
I think it is so true here - and on the other side as well - that whenever a poll Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2015 #100
I check the survey methodology with any seemingly important poll pnwmom Jul 2015 #113
point taken ! Probably should have qualified with "close" or "neck in neck". I totally Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2015 #116
Yes. I think we continue to have a very close split between the parties and we'll have to pnwmom Jul 2015 #122
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2015 #54
The election is fifteen months out xmas74 Jul 2015 #64
Ugh, we can't afford four more years of the BFEE!!!!! Initech Jul 2015 #58
That's a statistical tie--well within the MOE. NT tblue37 Jul 2015 #81
Easy! Take a lungful. oldandhappy Jul 2015 #84
People who have been basing their entire political outlook on polls already for two years or more TheKentuckian Jul 2015 #85
Both of them customerserviceguy Jul 2015 #86
No wonder we are so fucked up, but I don't believe it. lonestarnot Jul 2015 #88
Anecdotally, a lot of people 'don't like Hillary' TransitJohn Jul 2015 #90
IF (BIG if) Hillary is the nominee DFW Jul 2015 #99
It's because of punks like this twerp libodem Jul 2015 #101
when 'lesser of the evils' is your message HFRN Jul 2015 #102
Clinton or Bush...either way, the money-men win. nt Romulox Jul 2015 #104
Fortunately the Republican electorate mostly hates him, particularly the far right wing of the GOP. stevenleser Jul 2015 #112
Sure you are upset about this (BS) poll from Quinnipiac. Dawson Leery Jul 2015 #123
My guess is that Jeb would lose Florida to Hillary HockeyMom Jul 2015 #128
Now that is how any Dem will win Florida. xmas74 Jul 2015 #138
Given the irresponsible nature of our media and the confused, anxious state of our citizenry, MBS Jul 2015 #131
But it's not even true. Even though the polled more Rethugs than Dems -- which no one pnwmom Aug 2015 #147
Great to know, but MBS Aug 2015 #148
You are absolutely right. We will have to fight as hard as we can for a huge turnout pnwmom Aug 2015 #151
This is no surprise - TBF Aug 2015 #150
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