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Octafish

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68. You have summed up the situation, shadowmayor. These are the par'lous times.
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 09:35 PM
Aug 2015

What bothers me are those who know and do nothing. They are as awful as those who work to enslave humanity. Worst of all are those who know and work to keep others in darkness.

Would a Grand Jury were convened, even one led by one of those former state Attorneys General who signed the letter in support of Gov. Don Siegelman, it could go a long way toward setting things right.



EXCERPT...

Career Prosecutors Opposed Siegelman Case

DEPARTMENT No Comment
BY Scott Horton
PUBLISHED October 29, 2007

EXCERPT...

Rove Called the Shots

The new posture taken by the increasingly implausible defense of the Siegelman prosecution is simple. Louis Franklin called all the shots. And Franklin insists that Karl Rove had no dealings with him and thus no influence on the case.

But these claims simply cannot be squared with the record, and with repeated statements that Franklin himself made to the court. But maybe we should start just with the accounts published previously by the Birmingham News itself, such as its March 26, 2006 report on the Siegelman case in which it offers its signature Franklin exclusive:
Louis Franklin, the acting U.S. attorney in the case, said career employees from the Middle District of Alabama and the Public Integrity Division in Washington have made the major decisions in the case.11. Kim Chandler, Siegelman Ties Riley to Indictment, Birmingham News, Mar. 26, 2006, p. 21A.

On February 29, 2006, Franklin filed a sworn affidavit, in which he discussed the decision making process:
We informed defense counsel that the investigation was a joint effort involving the USAO-MDAL , DOJ Public Integrity Section and theAlabama Attorney General’s Office and each entity would participate in all decision-making processes.

Franklin goes on to describe a negotiation session with Scrushy’s counsel in which, even by his account, Noel Hillman played the leading role. In para. 18 of the same affidavit, Franklin states that he is uncertain about a new indictment because whether charges can be brought requires the approval of the Criminal Division in Washington, and they have not yet informed him of their decision.

On April 14, 2006, Louis Franklin filed a motion to block Governor Siegelman from arguing or presenting evidence that the prosecution was politically motivated—and won. Here’s what Franklin told Judge Fuller:
In this case, the only person associated with the prosecutors who is accused of discriminatory motive is U.S. Attorney Leura Canary…

Former Attorney General, and now United States Circuit Judge Bill Pryor publicly announced the joint state and federal investigation of Defendant Siegelman’s administration in June 2001—months before Ms. Canary was appointed U.S. Attorney. The federal grand jury did not convene in connection with this investigation until June 2004 — well after Ms. Canary’s recusal from the case. . .

Louis Franklin, the acting U.S. Attorney in the case, and career employee from the Middle District of Alabama’s U.S. Attorney’s Office, the Public Integrity Division of the United States Department of Justice in Washington, D.C., and the Alabama Attorney General’s Office have jointly made all of the substantive decisions in the case since Ms. Canary’s recusal, including the decisions to convene a special grand jury in 2004 and to present charges to that grand jury. None of these individuals have been accused of political motivations by the defendants, either in the case or in the press. Moreover, any claims regarding Ms. Canary’s political motivations cannot be imputed to them.

CONTINUED...

http://harpers.org/archive/2007/10/hbc-90001540



But, for some reason, those who help continue the War Party's reign by keeping Siegelman in the pen get appointed to nice jobs, like the Supreme Court.

Funny how that works. [View all] Octafish Aug 2015 OP
. annabanana Aug 2015 #1
Along with Dylan, Leslie West and Ozzy did that one, too. Octafish Aug 2015 #3
An odd bit of musical trivia: deutsey Aug 2015 #26
Father? Yes, son? Octafish Aug 2015 #54
Actually, no. Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2015 #57
What Adm. Morrison said. Octafish Aug 2015 #59
'Tis what he said Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2015 #64
Jim Morrison's dad breaks silence about estranged son Octafish Aug 2015 #65
The link I provided also has the quote. Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2015 #66
LOL. So now you say Adm. Morrison didn't hate on his son? Octafish Aug 2015 #69
Dearest 'fish, my upstanding compatriot. Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2015 #72
Cool story. I like it. DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2015 #71
Mountain's "Flowers of Evil" hifiguy Aug 2015 #63
Righteous band that was. Octafish Aug 2015 #70
Amen to that. dixiegrrrrl Aug 2015 #9
And we thought it would end with Obama. zeemike Aug 2015 #18
Ignore what? My friends are home from Bush's wars. tabasco Aug 2015 #51
Modern American blood baths don't need boots on the ground truedelphi Aug 2015 #58
I would hazard a guess that zeemike meant the dealers rather than the fighters erronis Aug 2015 #67
Exactly. Octafish Aug 2015 #81
It's the only jobs program we have... haikugal Aug 2015 #53
How far would some people go to become billionaires? Now, assume those people are GoneFishin Aug 2015 #2
That is a good question. Octafish Aug 2015 #5
RICO violations couldn't be any more glaring Doctor_J Aug 2015 #4
I like how the wall-to-wall domestic NSA spying has helped round them up. Octafish Aug 2015 #7
Kick! Juicy_Bellows Aug 2015 #6
Funny how things don't change...DU from 2002... Octafish Aug 2015 #10
It's a damn dirty history. Juicy_Bellows Aug 2015 #15
What a fascinating article, Octafish. hedda_foil Aug 2015 #23
Wish I'd written it, my Friend! Octafish Aug 2015 #34
Thanks. bvar22 Aug 2015 #45
Profiteering scum. Dark n Stormy Knight Aug 2015 #8
Rupert Murdoch's employee Roger Ailes and the turds outta Corporate McPravda. Octafish Aug 2015 #14
Thanks for the great links. Will need to bookmark and read most later. Dark n Stormy Knight Aug 2015 #21
I just finished the truthout piece above. WOW! Talk about a "must read." hedda_foil Aug 2015 #42
Television, the drug of the Nation OnyxCollie Aug 2015 #47
I LOVE that record. Octafish Aug 2015 #49
As I lay awake at night, OnyxCollie Aug 2015 #74
Most excellent links Octafish..thanks! haikugal Aug 2015 #55
News Corp, a rogues gallery. OnyxCollie Aug 2015 #76
K&R. nt OnyxCollie Aug 2015 #11
Carlyle Group pioneered the way forward. Others, like Trireme Partnerships followed... Octafish Aug 2015 #40
Hot & bothered, and itchin' for a new war. OnyxCollie Aug 2015 #44
Dan Quayle? The Potatoe? Octafish Aug 2015 #52
to read later Thanks for posting this. snagglepuss Aug 2015 #12
A warmonger's take on democracy Octafish Aug 2015 #61
Now now. Don't go getting sanctimonious. Scootaloo Aug 2015 #13
Who remembers John Kokal? Octafish Aug 2015 #77
K&R..... daleanime Aug 2015 #16
Who remembers Col. Westhusing? Octafish Aug 2015 #78
These are the folks who should be experiencing 2naSalit Aug 2015 #17
Yep, conspiracy theory is a powerful trump card zeemike Aug 2015 #19
It is too! 2naSalit Aug 2015 #20
The real victim is the truth. zeemike Aug 2015 #22
And so goes the 2naSalit Aug 2015 #29
Well Rome was considered civilized too. zeemike Aug 2015 #31
So true! nt 2naSalit Aug 2015 #32
Michael Parenti studied how the Republic descended into Empire... Octafish Aug 2015 #35
Fascinating lecture, thanks. zeemike Aug 2015 #41
Thanks for posting 2naSalit Aug 2015 #82
If conspiracies didn't exist, there wouldn't be laws against them. OnyxCollie Aug 2015 #48
War Pigs shadowmayor Aug 2015 #24
You have summed up the situation, shadowmayor. These are the par'lous times. Octafish Aug 2015 #68
Helter Skelter shadowmayor Aug 2015 #73
K&R Bookmarked. Scuba Aug 2015 #25
BFEE Line of Warmongers & Imperialists in service of War Inc. Octafish Aug 2015 #75
Morning Kick! (eom) CanSocDem Aug 2015 #27
Who remembers Paul Sanford? Octafish Aug 2015 #79
R & K! /nt RiverLover Aug 2015 #28
Who remembers Mark Lombardi? Octafish Aug 2015 #80
But but but...the BFEE...tee hee giggles! Rex Aug 2015 #30
It's to show them for what they are: supporters of warmongers, war criminals and traitors. Octafish Aug 2015 #36
True and they have done that, supporters of warmongers etc.. Rex Aug 2015 #39
k and r nashville_brook Aug 2015 #33
The Jeb Bush Adviser Who Should Scare You Octafish Aug 2015 #87
The pig in the photo looks so happy fadedrose Aug 2015 #37
2003 George W. Bush interview about 9/11: "...we got a laugh out of it." Octafish Aug 2015 #38
Three months after 911, the Dubya said: Oilwellian Aug 2015 #46
It all went swimmingly well! Juicy_Bellows Aug 2015 #50
K & R !!! WillyT Aug 2015 #43
Jeb Bush and His Brother’s Wars Octafish Aug 2015 #84
Kick and Rec! haikugal Aug 2015 #56
Bush Family War Profiteering Octafish Aug 2015 #85
This thread rocks Octafish...BOOKMARKED!!!!!! haikugal Aug 2015 #86
Kicked and recommended Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #60
Why the Mainstream Media Is Gung-Ho on War and Silencing Antiwar Voices Octafish Aug 2015 #88
Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Aug 2015 #62
People who say: ''Bush lied America into war'' are like NAZIs, BFEE Judge Silberman said. Octafish Aug 2015 #89
Plus one to the absolute fucking Max! Enthusiast Aug 2015 #90
K&R blackspade Aug 2015 #83
Warmongering Today Octafish Aug 2015 #91
They got the police state to keep themselves in power too. nilesobek Aug 2015 #92
Police State of the Art Octafish Aug 2015 #93
Thanks for your reply. I've read where you mentioned Frank Church. nilesobek Aug 2015 #94
dupe NT Octafish Aug 2015 #95
Frank Church warned us. Octafish Aug 2015 #96
I was born in '63, the year of the coup. nilesobek Aug 2015 #98
Rummy & Cheney are conspirators from WAYYY back, to the Ford Administration IIRC... One was Ghost in the Machine Aug 2015 #97
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