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MrScorpio

(73,630 posts)
49. These are smart folks, I'm sure that education won't hurt...
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 02:07 PM
Aug 2015

Plus, there's plenty of information available. Here's a pretty good article that I'd like to share with everyone right here:

FRIDAY, APR 10, 2015 02:16 PM EDT

White America’s racial illiteracy: Why our national conversation is poisoned from the start

I am white. I have spent years studying what it means to be white in a society that proclaims race meaningless, yet is deeply divided by race. This is what I have learned: Any white person living in the United States will develop opinions about race simply by swimming in the water of our culture. But mainstream sources—schools, textbooks, media—don’t provide us with the multiple perspectives we need.

Yes, we will develop strong emotionally laden opinions, but they will not be informed opinions. Our socialization renders us racially illiterate. When you add a lack of humility to that illiteracy (because we don’t know what we don’t know), you get the break-down we so often see when trying to engage white people in meaningful conversations about race.

Mainstream dictionary definitions reduce racism to individual racial prejudice and the intentional actions that result. The people that commit these intentional acts are deemed bad, and those that don’t are good. If we are against racism and unaware of committing racist acts, we can’t be racist; racism and being a good person have become mutually exclusive. But this definition does little to explain how racial hierarchies are consistently reproduced.

Social scientists understand racism as a multidimensional and highly adaptive system—a system that ensures an unequal distribution of resources between racial groups. Because whites built and dominate all significant institutions, (often at the expense of and on the uncompensated labor of other groups), their interests are embedded in the foundation of U.S. society.

http://www.salon.com/2015/04/10/white_americas_racial_illiteracy_why_our_national_conversation_is_poisoned_from_the_start_partner/
About "white supremacist liberals" [View all] jberryhill Aug 2015 OP
But that is an oxymoron malaise Aug 2015 #1
+1 Stellar Aug 2015 #10
sounds like many DUers are falling for this bullshit Skittles Aug 2015 #2
I don't think there are many people "falling for it" Hydra Aug 2015 #5
but I have seen long-time DUers involved Skittles Aug 2015 #6
There have been people floating questionable stuff here for a long time now Hydra Aug 2015 #9
Hell, remember how vicious the attacks were against critics of the "H" logo??? arcane1 Aug 2015 #52
Yup. Generally the same people who are comfortable with torture, spying, and the TPP villager Aug 2015 #57
Skittles ... We have been here a long time Trajan Aug 2015 #78
Seems to happen periodically, for maybe a few months every year or two. It's nothing new IMO. nomorenomore08 Aug 2015 #79
I am sick of these Tiger Beat club freaks Skittles Aug 2015 #99
It's the white guilt thing. Le Taz Hot Aug 2015 #98
Ben Carson is good at it jberryhill Aug 2015 #7
Identity politics resonates -- old white guys from the northeast are likely to have problems in this Supersedeas Aug 2015 #97
Anyone who is falling for this horseshit and actually believing it hifiguy Aug 2015 #17
you kow it, hifiguy Skittles Aug 2015 #18
Identity politics makes a powerful wedge, it seems. Marr Aug 2015 #92
Well, I guess we liberals do everything else evil in RW imaginations Hydra Aug 2015 #3
Someone should do a study. I wonder if there is a correlation between one's place on the Ed Suspicious Aug 2015 #20
How else would you think of it? Hydra Aug 2015 #21
I don't think that it is left/right it is more of an authoritarian thing. Chisox08 Aug 2015 #40
Wow, to think that this kind of twisted history ... ananda Aug 2015 #4
There are people who would rather "Burn it all down!" than see things improve Hydra Aug 2015 #8
That may have originated with angryblacklady on Twitter. WorseBeforeBetter Aug 2015 #14
Scorched earth and start all over again, eh... ananda Aug 2015 #42
There is also the conservative trope that liberal policies have crippled Gigabear Aug 2015 #58
And I suppose, repeated often enough ... ananda Aug 2015 #59
Because cutting off gov't assistance in economically moribund areas is *really* going to improve nomorenomore08 Aug 2015 #83
When I have my tin foil hat on, this is actually sensible. ladyVet Aug 2015 #96
It's a classic Black Republican trope romanic Aug 2015 #11
Oh yeah, that's a classic jberryhill Aug 2015 #13
No, no... That's Democrat Plantation. Fixed. Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #43
Newspeak-- up is down, cold is hot... TreasonousBastard Aug 2015 #12
I've seen "Black Lives Matter" used with anti-abortion ads daredtowork Aug 2015 #15
The 2 big counter strategies used early in primaries are GreatGazoo Aug 2015 #16
Yes. They have all the tricks. We have to be mostly honest. nt rusty quoin Aug 2015 #19
Democratic politicians are honest? Ok. merrily Aug 2015 #28
Another one they're repeating is, "Sanders crowd is too white". Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #22
Well, they might have a point there... nomorenomore08 Aug 2015 #24
On their dunce cap.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #61
I was told right here on DU that Sanders deliberately avoids having non-whites in attendance arcane1 Aug 2015 #53
Bush used to seat a few behind him for the cameras as he spoke to a room full of white males. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #60
He also used to rub black men's bald heads, as if for "good luck." nomorenomore08 Aug 2015 #71
Bush had a bald fetish.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #74
LOL! Who's that dude? nomorenomore08 Aug 2015 #77
Seriously? Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #80
Oh shit, haven't heard that name in forever! Thanks for jogging my memory... nomorenomore08 Aug 2015 #81
That message seems to have found a home on DU as well Leontius Aug 2015 #23
Probably a mix of several things. However, posting something on DU doesn't mean it's merrily Aug 2015 #29
Understanding that white supremacy and liberalism aren't mutually exclusive isn't difficult... MrScorpio Aug 2015 #25
^^^This^^^n/t Gormy Cuss Aug 2015 #26
Sorry. Sounds to me like a justification to call people white supremacists even if they are not. merrily Aug 2015 #27
"Sounds to me" is much less valid than "actually is." LanternWaste Aug 2015 #64
As you so often do, you are invalidly implying that I am biased and dishonest. merrily Aug 2015 #68
Good idea! I will, too. [n/t] Maedhros Aug 2015 #85
It never occurred to you? merrily Aug 2015 #86
Just as I was reading his bulshit response, I thought "ignore list." Maedhros Aug 2015 #87
All my life, I've held fast to two principles: merrily Aug 2015 #88
Glad you had the guts to do it Mr. Scorpio. Solomon Aug 2015 #30
Really? Aren't all whites racial supremists? Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #44
Of course not. But no one can live their whole life in a racist society without being affected nomorenomore08 Aug 2015 #82
You are acting like this young woman TM99 Aug 2015 #31
"We also have to separate white supremacy from white supremacists." melman Aug 2015 #32
Sure, they're not mutually exclusive. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #33
It's not a purposeful thing though. joshcryer Aug 2015 #35
racial bigotry doesn't have to be 'purposeful' Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #38
Oh I think you can spot it really easily, no question. joshcryer Aug 2015 #39
is there any meaningful difference between: geek tragedy Aug 2015 #47
I don't advocate the terminology, mind you. joshcryer Aug 2015 #69
I guess. But even for academics/activists there's a humungous difference geek tragedy Aug 2015 #70
I strongly dislike word appropriation (or re-purposing) in academia. joshcryer Aug 2015 #90
It's not necessarily conscious and intentional, though. That's the really insidious thing about it. nomorenomore08 Aug 2015 #84
Johnson's statements on intent are powerful. joshcryer Aug 2015 #34
Good luck getting people to listen ibegurpard Aug 2015 #45
to me this is a bridge way too far. are there any white people who don't count geek tragedy Aug 2015 #46
Why is that important? Recursion Aug 2015 #93
I'm not particularly obsessed with that question. geek tragedy Aug 2015 #95
People on DU are still struggling to understand racism 101 Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #48
These are smart folks, I'm sure that education won't hurt... MrScorpio Aug 2015 #49
Great article. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #55
I can understand the difference between the heirarchal roots of social supremacy - haele Aug 2015 #62
When you listened to the voices of these black women, what did you hear? MrScorpio Aug 2015 #63
As to the Seattle event, I heard anger, pain and a need to express that anger and pain. haele Aug 2015 #75
If you don't mind, I'd like you to check out this post MrScorpio Aug 2015 #89
Thank you, provides some food for thought. haele Aug 2015 #94
When I first saw that video I was fucking pissed. joshcryer Aug 2015 #91
More than one definition...? OOOOOOOH. sibelian Aug 2015 #65
I'm absolutely positive that the article and video that I've included are self-explanatory MrScorpio Aug 2015 #67
Orwellian newspeak if I ever heard it The Blue Flower Aug 2015 #36
Why a serious meeting of minds on the left Skidmore Aug 2015 #37
. snagglepuss Aug 2015 #41
which has little to do with people wanting policy proposals from Sanders, but..... bettyellen Aug 2015 #50
That particular label has me so pissed off I can barely keep my blood pressure in a safe range. Vinca Aug 2015 #51
Yup. No racist liberals. Got it. Tarheel_Dem Aug 2015 #54
Where did the OP state that? tabasco Aug 2015 #66
"White supremacist" is a very loaded term, for most people. Regardless, I see the point and am not nomorenomore08 Aug 2015 #72
You think they're common? whatchamacallit Aug 2015 #73
Paul Craig Roberts is a favourite of many DUers... SidDithers Aug 2015 #56
It goes along with their "elitist" and "latte liberals" tags - TBF Aug 2015 #76
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