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Mon Aug 10, 2015, 08:21 PM

PeaceNikki (27,985 posts)

21. Agreed.

I refuse to think they are ignorant or stupid or assholes or Republican operatives or part of a false flag operation.

I think they're angry and scared and hurt at what's happening to their brothers and sisters and children and friends.

They're trying to affect change. Sanders and O'Mally now have comprehensive plans laid out regarding racial justice. Neither did before these disruptions. And that's all they are is minor disruptions. Yeah, they said some nasty hurtful shit but they've heard it all themselves their entire lives. They're pissed. I get it. People are dying and they're asking to be heard.

We should listen to them. They have life experiences we don't.

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142 replies	Author	Time	Post
#BlackLivesMatter activists want the women who interrupted Bernie Sanders to publicly apologize [View all]	Bubzer	Aug 2015	OP
Petition closed?	daredtowork	Aug 2015	#1
Who are these "white supremacist liberals?"	blackspade	Aug 2015	#75
Turns out Black Lives Matter Activists was a seperate entity.	Bubzer	Aug 2015	#99
Looks like their "stage" got hijacked, too!	daredtowork	Aug 2015	#102
I would say there really isn't room for the claim that the group has no centralized leader...	Bubzer	Aug 2015	#103
So if a bunch of fakers apologized in the name of BLM	daredtowork	Aug 2015	#105
Well, and thats part of the problem at hand. Who's fake and who's real?	Bubzer	Aug 2015	#109
Again, that's why it's good to check out the founders opinion. nt	daredtowork	Aug 2015	#120
And I would agree. There is a caveat though.	Bubzer	Aug 2015	#121
You are confusing organizational structure with philosophy and intent of the organization. nt	daredtowork	Aug 2015	#130
Assuming you're right, then the BLM organization has a messaging issue.	Bubzer	Aug 2015	#131
BLM doesn't have a messaging issue at all. "Stop Killing Us" seems pretty clear.	daredtowork	Aug 2015	#133
You are confusing analysis for judgment.	Bubzer	Aug 2015	#134
Because they have nothing to do with BLM. They are fakers. nt	daredtowork	Aug 2015	#136
Okay, so they are fakers. I'm not disputing that point here.	Bubzer	Aug 2015	#138
Anyone is at risk of being catfished	daredtowork	Aug 2015	#141
You're confusing a directed response with a collective response. Look at post 99.	Bubzer	Aug 2015	#142
The real question is who are the fake BLM working for?	leveymg	Aug 2015	#127
You correctly chose the word: "Spiritual."	Eleanors38	Aug 2015	#112
This message was self-deleted by its author	notadmblnd	Aug 2015	#2
BLM co-founder Patrisse Cullors has come out	snagglepuss	Aug 2015	#7
Wow... thats unfortunate.	Bubzer	Aug 2015	#9
It also means that the OP is false. For DU, that's disappointing.	George II	Aug 2015	#83
The origional OP is still correct. Black Live Matter Activists is a splinter group.	Bubzer	Aug 2015	#110
maybe it is not everything	Supersedeas	Aug 2015	#132
Yep, I read that and I was just reading an article written by Alisha Garza	notadmblnd	Aug 2015	#10
So, liberals are the enemy now? What is this movement about now?	haikugal	Aug 2015	#11
From what I gather reading their works- everyone who is not in agreement with them is the enemy	notadmblnd	Aug 2015	#12
Thanks for your answer.	haikugal	Aug 2015	#13
No, I did a google search of the founders	notadmblnd	Aug 2015	#25
Thanks for the links and information.	haikugal	Aug 2015	#46
Short answer, yes.	notadmblnd	Aug 2015	#50
This is an excellent question. I was really shocked	snagglepuss	Aug 2015	#14
Maybe they're not trying to effect the change you thought they were aiming for.	winter is coming	Aug 2015	#64
You're right and it has been a jarring experience because I have been assuming	snagglepuss	Aug 2015	#71
FWIW, that's my take.	HooptieWagon	Aug 2015	#88
This message was self-deleted by its author	LiberalArkie	Aug 2015	#90
This isn't about elections or coalition building	artislife	Aug 2015	#108
Lotsa luck with that.	hifiguy	Aug 2015	#18
+1 nt	restorefreedom	Aug 2015	#22
I agree they will not make friends or influence anyone that can really help them effect the change	notadmblnd	Aug 2015	#32
It certainly doesn't speak to a liberal democratic government with equality and consensus.	Nuclear Unicorn	Aug 2015	#33
These folks have some heavy personal issues they aren't dealing with because	snagglepuss	Aug 2015	#42
Exactly my thought.	HooptieWagon	Aug 2015	#89
Yep.	NaturalHigh	Aug 2015	#137
they will go up in flames with these fake protesters. Acorn anyone?	roguevalley	Aug 2015	#20
Acorn was fake?	Sheepshank	Aug 2015	#91
no. acorn was killed with lies.	roguevalley	Aug 2015	#93
I still don't get the analogy	Sheepshank	Aug 2015	#100
Respect and dignity is a two way street. n/t	Skwmom	Aug 2015	#67
This was what I wanted to know. nt	daredtowork	Aug 2015	#96
Sorry, Ms. Cullors: Get into the game, expect your hand to be called.	Eleanors38	Aug 2015	#113
If one wants to be treated with respect and dignity, one should act in a way that shows it	mythology	Aug 2015	#128
Whoa! Guess we'll see where this goes. I like the petition idea	99th_Monkey	Aug 2015	#3
I couldn't agree more.	CTyankee	Aug 2015	#4
Credible with whom?	Supersedeas	Aug 2015	#139
With the broader African American community primarily	99th_Monkey	Aug 2015	#140
The Seattle NPR station interviewed the head of the Seattle chapter of the NAACP today.	PSPS	Aug 2015	#5
there's alot of that going round	Supersedeas	Aug 2015	#135
BLM Co-founder Patrisse Cullor has come out and stated that they are part of BLM	snagglepuss	Aug 2015	#6
Those 2 are yahoos and	rusty fender	Aug 2015	#8
Then BLM owns the statement "white supremacist liberals"...	PoutrageFatigue	Aug 2015	#15
I pointed out that it was even in an essay by Alicia Garza	daredtowork	Aug 2015	#97
I am really kind of sick	Skidmore	Aug 2015	#16
The problem is that BLM is not actually addressing the issue	Hydra	Aug 2015	#19
Really?	Skidmore	Aug 2015	#56
Read their official statements. I put a blank there not because there's nothing	Hydra	Aug 2015	#59
Perhaps that is why dialogue is needed and	Skidmore	Aug 2015	#61
No, that's not what BLM is working toward	Hydra	Aug 2015	#65
I don't think they are asking for anything other than	Skidmore	Aug 2015	#69
That is exactly right	ismnotwasm	Aug 2015	#79
BLM	sheshe2	Aug 2015	#95
Bull shit	sheshe2	Aug 2015	#70
Agreed.	PeaceNikki	Aug 2015	#21
"They're angry and scared and hurt"	Nevernose	Aug 2015	#48
I think you are spot on.	Skidmore	Aug 2015	#57
Real lives are more important than politics or careers. Period. n/t	freshwest	Aug 2015	#80
Politics decides	Shankapotomus	Aug 2015	#106
+1000	blackspade	Aug 2015	#82
Exactly.	Starry Messenger	Aug 2015	#94
Okay. So, then, how is interupting Bernie Sanders suppose to help the situation?	Bubzer	Aug 2015	#24
Their disruption led to Bernie’s explicit platform on racial justice.	PeaceNikki	Aug 2015	#27
Ehh... the campaign has already stated it was in the works before the event.	Bubzer	Aug 2015	#29
It went on his site Sunday.	PeaceNikki	Aug 2015	#31
Definately.	Bubzer	Aug 2015	#38
So you think they came up with it overnight in response?	Egnever	Aug 2015	#43
You don't think the Netroots event and Saturday helped get it there?	PeaceNikki	Aug 2015	#45
No I think that defies logic	Egnever	Aug 2015	#49
I disagree.	PeaceNikki	Aug 2015	#51
I agree.	historylovr	Aug 2015	#63
I think Netroots did.	RichVRichV	Aug 2015	#129
Probably he wanted to get it good rather than get it out	catrose	Aug 2015	#36
I would.	okasha	Aug 2015	#92
Too bad it took a SECOND distruption to get that platform.	George II	Aug 2015	#84
Like he wouldn't have listened otherwise	Shankapotomus	Aug 2015	#107
This is not about Sanders.	Skidmore	Aug 2015	#30
Okay, so, again, shouldn't these protests be targeted at those who can more readily affect change?	Bubzer	Aug 2015	#35
I don't think "a lot of good-will"	Skidmore	Aug 2015	#37
Well, I'd suggest taking a look at some forums, and you might be surprised.	Bubzer	Aug 2015	#41
No goodwill has been lost	ismnotwasm	Aug 2015	#76
Bernie Sanders is already in contact with BLM.	Bubzer	Aug 2015	#104
When did Sanders leave the Senate? You say....	George II	Aug 2015	#86
Its pretty well know that once somone decides to run for office...	Bubzer	Aug 2015	#122
This may sound flippant	Nevernose	Aug 2015	#44
So no one fired at the cops?	Egnever	Aug 2015	#26
Did the article say that?	Skidmore	Aug 2015	#34
The article tries to paint a picture of an innocent bystander shot when cops just went crazy	Egnever	Aug 2015	#39
wel	Truprogressive85	Aug 2015	#47
You can see them shooting at the cops in the video	Egnever	Aug 2015	#52
?	Truprogressive85	Aug 2015	#55
They shot him	Egnever	Aug 2015	#58
i see	Truprogressive85	Aug 2015	#62
you can see the muzzle flashes	Egnever	Aug 2015	#87
Says who?	Skidmore	Aug 2015	#68
Well there is video of it	Egnever	Aug 2015	#85
Many Black people have confidence in Bernie	Rosa Luxemburg	Aug 2015	#28
No President is going to be a 'saviour'.	Erich Bloodaxe BSN	Aug 2015	#101
Yes, I even posted about it as it was breaking	nadinbrzezinski	Aug 2015	#53
Yes, paying attention.	historylovr	Aug 2015	#66
Me too.	Skidmore	Aug 2015	#72
Clearly much more important.	onehandle	Aug 2015	#73
Very weird	Skidmore	Aug 2015	#77
The callousness of these assholes is inhuman.	blackspade	Aug 2015	#74
We're being accused of devastating a young black woman's life by doing our research.	haikugal	Aug 2015	#17
i would not hold my breath	restorefreedom	Aug 2015	#23
Fine. If you don't want to be part of the coalition, keep your ass off the stage.	Marr	Aug 2015	#40
The ‪#‎BlackLivesMatter‬ organization did not create any petitions demanding apology from Seattle ba	riversedge	Aug 2015	#54
When a movement is based upon a twitter hashtag,	Maedhros	Aug 2015	#60
That is a gross oversimplifiation.	Skidmore	Aug 2015	#78
You certainly have a choice there don't you?	ismnotwasm	Aug 2015	#81
Comparison of Black Lives Matter and Free Speech Movement	daredtowork	Aug 2015	#98
Marissa, you owe no one an appology.	NCTraveler	Aug 2015	#111
In this day and age, who the fuck apologizes for anything? Bad form.	Eleanors38	Aug 2015	#114
"In this day and age, who the fuck apologizes for anything?"	NCTraveler	Aug 2015	#115
It looks like the BLM's "spirit" leadership is right on time with public bravado.	Eleanors38	Aug 2015	#116
I agree. "Tase her" was yelled from the crowd. No one appologized.	NCTraveler	Aug 2015	#117
And Bernie was "violent" to Ms. Johnson. But she's in the Celebrity System now.	Eleanors38	Aug 2015	#118
No idea what you are talking about. nt.	NCTraveler	Aug 2015	#119
This whole issue is frustrating.	Bubzer	Aug 2015	#123
That I get and overall agree with.	NCTraveler	Aug 2015	#124
It's always hard to tell who is who...	Dornick	Aug 2015	#125
Palin fans don't apologize. nt	valerief	Aug 2015	#126

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