why can't this party ('of working people') talk honestly about H-1b visa? (Reply #30)

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Tue Aug 18, 2015, 10:19 AM

HFRN (1,469 posts)

30. why can't this party ('of working people') talk honestly about H-1b visa?

this is a very serious question

sure, it's fair to question Trump's motivation for bringing it up

but, it's also fair to question this party's motivation for $ilence

I know people have been bringing the evidence of harm to the party for YEARS

but, why can't the party seem to understand it?

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46 replies	Author	Time	Post
Donald Trump, zingers and all, emerges as sharp H-1B critic [View all]	Recursion	Aug 2015	OP
It is a very interesting fracture line indeed.	arcane1	Aug 2015	#1
The "hire US workers first" is riddled with easy to exploit loopholes	strategery blunder	Aug 2015	#2
The prevailing wage rules are hard to enforce too	Recursion	Aug 2015	#3
Re unemployment in IT	strategery blunder	Aug 2015	#4
It may be a generational thing; my Bachelor's was in liberal arts	Recursion	Aug 2015	#6
That wouldn't surprise me	strategery blunder	Aug 2015	#7
There's still 2.5 million people working in IT	Recursion	Aug 2015	#8
Most H1B visa holders transitioned from student visas.	lumberjack_jeff	Aug 2015	#42
And who paid the tuition?	strategery blunder	Aug 2015	#43
Mom and dad. They paid out of state tuition too, which makes colleges happy. n/t	lumberjack_jeff	Aug 2015	#44
But the IT industry is a lot more heavy with contract jobs than permanent ones today...	cascadiance	Aug 2015	#11
And that's the fault line I mentioned	Recursion	Aug 2015	#13
Democratic voters are NOT "slightly in favor of the TPP"	brentspeak	Aug 2015	#22
You can disparage polling organizations all you want. Are there ANY polls showing that Democratic	pampango	Aug 2015	#25
You don't give up, do you?	brentspeak	Aug 2015	#27
And you never post a poll that shows Democrats are anti-TPP as you claim. Though you are	pampango	Aug 2015	#29
it is not that you can hire H1B's if they are cheaper, it is supposed to be	hollysmom	Aug 2015	#14
PERM Fake Job Ads defraud Americans to secure green cards	FrodosPet	Aug 2015	#5
We will just end up pay the H-1Bs higher wages. nt	kelliekat44	Aug 2015	#9
Why would they need to hire H-1B's if they had to pay them the same? n/t	pnwmom	Aug 2015	#10
The perception is they're "better" in addition to being cheaper	Recursion	Aug 2015	#12
That perception would be false.. I think most of their top 5% probably stays there...	cascadiance	Aug 2015	#15
two reasons 1) econ 101 more supply, lower wage for all, and 2) They're indentured nt	HFRN	Aug 2015	#35
I do hope that this does not mean we Democrats will now be expected to be FOR H-1B visas.	djean111	Aug 2015	#16
Are you saying you are for zero H-1B visas being issued?	Recursion	Aug 2015	#17
The program needs to be scaled back and policed for abuse	davidn3600	Aug 2015	#18
I am saying that anyone who is on record as saying H-1B visas need to be increased - no vote.	djean111	Aug 2015	#19
How have you observed it being abused?	Recursion	Aug 2015	#21
Your "play dumb about H1-B abuse" posting approach is sort of funny	brentspeak	Aug 2015	#23
'It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his	HFRN	Aug 2015	#32
Here is one - I applied for an IT position at a large company where I had referrals	djean111	Aug 2015	#24
A little old, but...	MannyGoldstein	Aug 2015	#26
H Clinton on H-1b visas	HFRN	Aug 2015	#31
Bernie Sanders on H-1b visa	HFRN	Aug 2015	#33
+100 n/t	lumberjack_jeff	Aug 2015	#46
and I can't find anything about Martin O'Malley on H-1b visa	HFRN	Aug 2015	#34
Other than eliminating the corporate tax and promoting right-to-work laws, Trump's economic policy	pampango	Aug 2015	#20
Is it the H1, H2's or the L1, L2's that are causing the damage?	One_Life_To_Give	Aug 2015	#28
why can't this party ('of working people') talk honestly about H-1b visa?	HFRN	Aug 2015	#30
I have the same question	Recursion	Aug 2015	#36
Great - can you tell me O'Malley's position on H-1b visa? nt	HFRN	Aug 2015	#37
I cannot. He has not spoken about it.	Recursion	Aug 2015	#38
'I think he disagrees with me on this particular question'	HFRN	Aug 2015	#39
I think we need to reduce our H1-B numbers by about 25%	Recursion	Aug 2015	#40
'I think O'Malley wants to reduce them by about 50%.'	HFRN	Aug 2015	#41
This "honest talk" should encompass the effect of all labor immigration. n/t	lumberjack_jeff	Aug 2015	#45

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