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In reply to the discussion: I am weary to my marrow of the deep moral and intellectual sickness of the right [View all]DirkGently
(12,151 posts)30. The backlash is already in motion.
Trump is part of it. Out of one side of his mouth, he gives voice to the ugliest views of the conservative base (immigration). Out of the other, he supports Planned Parenthood and protectionism for union workers.
They are in chaos. The wholesale purchase of politics by the donor class CU enabled is not going as planned. Billionaires are competing to purchase candidates, but the result is Republicans are hamstrung on policy. They have to check with their sponsors before opening their mouths.
They have lowered the bar so far that what it "means to be a Republican" has been rendered meaningless. Trump walked in without sponsors or strings, giving the base the attitude they love, and mucking up the feeding trough for the rest of them.
If no one screws this up, there will be nothing left of the modern American "GOP" but ashes.
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cali
Aug 2015
OP
Good rant. Keep in mind, when someone says "We can get Republican grassroots to vote for X candidate
stevenleser
Aug 2015
#2
You are preaching to the choir on that point. It's exactly why I do what I do where I do it.
stevenleser
Aug 2015
#7
I wasn't responding to you, but if you are curious Google is your friend. Nt
stevenleser
Aug 2015
#79
Nah, I don't really care that much but your post had kind of an implicit self important tone
tularetom
Aug 2015
#81
Even when they don't hold the views themselves, they tolerate them in the folks for whom they vote.
stevenleser
Aug 2015
#9
An interesting red herring but ultimately not related to the discussion. nt
stevenleser
Aug 2015
#22
Lots of Republican voters thought they were voting for fiscal conservatives or against union bosses
JDPriestly
Aug 2015
#38
A significant number of folks here have been saying Bernie will change their minds and get them to
stevenleser
Aug 2015
#10
Then your expectations are in the ballpark because if nominated he would get close to zero.
stevenleser
Aug 2015
#23
We can argue what Bernie is, but that doesn't matter, and YOU know that. It only matters what
stevenleser
Aug 2015
#28
You think so? Ask George Allen how easy it was to fight "Macaca" with video of him saying it.
stevenleser
Aug 2015
#34
And if Clinton wins the nomination, the Republicans will point out that she joined them
rhett o rick
Aug 2015
#61
That's a joke right? The last thing the GOP will mention is the Iraq war. nt
stevenleser
Aug 2015
#63
Yeah, in response to questions he clearly didn't want to answer. And he fumbled
stevenleser
Aug 2015
#72
So you admit the the GOP has already mentioned the Iraq War but still contend
rhett o rick
Aug 2015
#75
No, that is your strawman. GOP candidates were asked about it by reporters.
stevenleser
Aug 2015
#78
You said they wouldn't mention it and yet they did and I think they will again.
rhett o rick
Aug 2015
#84
Doesn't matter how many times you say the wrong thing, it's still wrong. Nt
stevenleser
Aug 2015
#89
How very untrue. Many Republicans are warming to the message of honesty that Sen Sanders
rhett o rick
Aug 2015
#60
Anyone falling for that, Chris Christie has a bridge he would like to sell you.
stevenleser
Aug 2015
#64
Thank you, cali. I do tire of protestations that republican X, Y or Z is a 'broken clock'. They are
pampango
Aug 2015
#11
I missed this post originally but this is a great point. Carter was 100% honest all the time. That
stevenleser
Aug 2015
#73
I think Sanders has been around Washington a good long time and will not face it naively.
hollysmom
Aug 2015
#74
The responsibility to change it comes from the left, which is divided, fearful, apathetic.
Gregorian
Aug 2015
#13
I thought Kasich had a modicum of sanity until his 'get rid of the teacher's lounges' comments.
panader0
Aug 2015
#46
if it weren't for the neoliberal and corporatist aspects of this party, republicans wouldnt be
HFRN
Aug 2015
#53
Advanced corruption always eventually rots and is replaced by new cleaner components. nt
ladjf
Aug 2015
#88