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Catherina

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Sat Aug 22, 2015, 02:46 PM Aug 2015

Why Liberals Separate Race from Class [View all]

This is worth reading in entirety. Snips don't do this justice

Why Liberals Separate Race from Class

The tendency to divorce racial disparities from economic inequality has a long liberal lineage.

by Touré F. Reed


Demonstrators in the June 1968 Poor People's March in Washington, DC. Warren K. Leffler / Library of Congress

The horizontal organization of Black Lives Matter ensures a diversity of perspectives among participants and even branches. Nevertheless, the now-commonplace claim at the heart of the recent Black Lives Matter protests against Sanders is that white liberals have long reduced racism to class inequality in order to deflect attention from racial disparities.

This is not just wrong, but the formulation — which ultimately treats race as unchanging and permanent rather than a product of specific historical and political economic relations — undermines both the cause of racial equality in general and pursuit of equitable treatment in the criminal justice system in particular.
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But by the 1950s, the anticommunism of the Cold War had a chilling effect on class-oriented civil rights politics, setting the stage for analyses of racism that divorced prejudice from economic exploitation — the fundamental reason for slavery and Jim Crow. Indeed, this was the era in which racism was recast as a psychological affliction rather than a product of political economy.

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This is why the March on Washington demands included not just anti-discrimination measures, but a full-employment economy, jobs programs, and a minimum-wage increase. Randolph and Rustin would go on to ally with economist Leon Keyserling to draft the 1966 Freedom Budget For All, which laid out a plan for social-democratic policies addressing black poverty by confronting its ultimate source — the erosion of well-paying jobs for low-skilled workers that had once served as the pathway to the middle class for white people.

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If one views the excesses and failures of the criminal justice system solely through the lens of race, then victims of police brutality and prosecutorial misconduct tend to be black or Latino. However, if one understands race and class are inextricably linked, then the victims of police brutality are not simply black or Latino (and Latinos outnumber blacks in federal prisons at this point) but they tend to belong to groups that lack political, economic, and social influence and power.

From that vantage point, the worldview expressed by Johnson and others misses the mark and falls into the same trap that, ironically, liberals have offered a stratum of credentialed black Americans for decades: opportunity within a market-driven political and economic framework that disparages demands for social and economic justice for all (including most black people) as socialist, communist, un-American, or even class-reductionist.

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2015/08/bernie-sanders-black-lives-matter-civil-rights-movement/
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This is a good read...K & R... Wounded Bear Aug 2015 #1
Good understanding of this explosive issue that seems to have been influenced ... AuntPatsy Aug 2015 #2
Good read Catherina... AOR Aug 2015 #3
Thanks Catherina malaise Aug 2015 #4
It's all true, but that doesn't make it wrong to focus on racism starroute Aug 2015 #5
+1 navarth Aug 2015 #7
Of course not, we agree on that Catherina Aug 2015 #11
Agree with both of you........ socialist_n_TN Aug 2015 #36
Hi my friend! Catherina Aug 2015 #39
Yep. I really do believe that was his first goal with his candidacy........ socialist_n_TN Aug 2015 #42
If so, I hope the movement is sound enough in basic theory Catherina Aug 2015 #61
Recommended. mmonk Aug 2015 #6
Another Jacobin fan RufusTFirefly Aug 2015 #18
. mmonk Aug 2015 #35
Bookmarked for later. hifiguy Aug 2015 #8
K&R...thank you! n/t OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #9
I could be wrong, but didn't some Black American DUers Baitball Blogger Aug 2015 #10
Not all Black DUers, just a few who claim to speak for everyone Catherina Aug 2015 #14
Thank you for the response. Baitball Blogger Aug 2015 #20
+1000 "It's all about political access and economic rewards" n/t Catherina Aug 2015 #22
There is a reason for D politicians Who have adopted a hybrid theory of governance Dragonfli Aug 2015 #26
As if I didn't love you enough already! Thanks 4 an astute, awesome post Catherina Aug 2015 #28
Token support for minorities, is what it boils down to. Baitball Blogger Aug 2015 #30
This deserves to be its own OP. stranger81 Aug 2015 #67
You're wrong. Almost all black DUers disagree with this type of analysis. kwassa Aug 2015 #32
How are you going to change the Police Department's antagonistic process, Baitball Blogger Aug 2015 #60
Public perceptions are being changed about the police. That is what BLM .... kwassa Aug 2015 #77
how can you possibly know what most black americans think? noiretextatique Aug 2015 #72
I know a lot of black people. Don't you? kwassa Aug 2015 #74
how about common sense? noiretextatique Aug 2015 #78
There is no way Sanders will not be painted as a socialist. kwassa Aug 2015 #81
yeah the ones who claim all AA's hate other AA critics of Obama. m-lekktor Aug 2015 #51
K & R beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #12
Thanks. I'm glad to be back too Catherina Aug 2015 #23
Very good analysis; makes sense of a lot of things. n/t Beartracks Aug 2015 #13
This webpage is not available LWolf Aug 2015 #15
Are you using Chrome? Catherina Aug 2015 #16
I WAS using chrome; LWolf Aug 2015 #19
I'm glad FF worked Catherina Aug 2015 #25
Oh, no. LWolf Aug 2015 #31
I'll send you an extra duster Catherina Aug 2015 #62
Okay. LWolf Aug 2015 #64
Excellent read. Recommended. RufusTFirefly Aug 2015 #17
Great read. I have felt this needed saying DirkGently Aug 2015 #21
cogent, drama-free analysis of the realities of change. nashville_brook Aug 2015 #24
Bookmarking for later, thank you :) n/t slipslidingaway Aug 2015 #27
Interesting read. Gormy Cuss Aug 2015 #29
Class and race operate both separately and together to impoverish people. Catherina Aug 2015 #38
I don't see anyone here separating the two. Well, let me correct that. I DO see people here sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #45
I see people here who almost reflexively try to shift a racial injustice topic into an economic one Gormy Cuss Aug 2015 #46
What's really tiresome is to see such an enormous issue, ignored mostly by the same people sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #48
This analysis is mistaken, of course. It is, of course, from a socialist magazine .... kwassa Aug 2015 #33
+10^10^100. The piece is extremely poorly written and makes points that don't follow at all. stevenleser Aug 2015 #40
So are you ssaying that you do not support Economic Equality/Justice for minorities? That appears sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #47
"So are you ssaying that you do not support Economic Equality/Justice for minorities?" NuclearDem Aug 2015 #49
What does any of that have to do with fighting for economic equality? And just WHO has ever said sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #50
You are diverting the topic. This thread is about BLM, not income equality per se. kwassa Aug 2015 #53
The topic is 'why Liberals Separate Racism from Class'. That is what the title of the OP sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #55
No, the issue of income equality is not irrelevant. kwassa Aug 2015 #73
It's not just the AA posters on DU. Huge majorities of black people everywhere have been saying this Number23 Aug 2015 #87
I have to wonder if O.J. Simpson had been poor, not having celebrity and economic power would the Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #52
I think we know the answer to that Uncle Joe! sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #54
It don't get it either, sabrina? Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #56
You don't get it because those arguments don't exist. NuclearDem Aug 2015 #57
Nobody is saying it will, but economic justice will go a long way toward leveling the playing field. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #58
Right-wing economics... MountCleaners Aug 2015 #84
Shameless bullshit allegation - and you know it is. Twisting the truth that they are sometimes bettyellen Aug 2015 #68
Sorry, but that is how it is coming across. sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #69
No one said it - so stop saying they did. It's nonsense. bettyellen Aug 2015 #71
Who is "they"? It is just a charge being thrown about. Capitalism requires division, an hierachy mmonk Aug 2015 #41
Great post. Lisa D Aug 2015 #43
Well said kwassa. PragmaticLiberal Aug 2015 #44
how do you propose to end racism in all areas of American life? noiretextatique Aug 2015 #75
Educate the public about the history of racism and it's effects. kwassa Aug 2015 #80
Yet you don't even mention the profit motivation that caused .... socialist_n_TN Aug 2015 #82
Race was around long before capitalism. kwassa Aug 2015 #83
You're right but that person will never be able to accept that. If you have bought into stevenleser Aug 2015 #90
K & R historylovr Aug 2015 #34
Good article. daleo Aug 2015 #37
I'm so glad someone spelled this out daredtowork Aug 2015 #59
You're welcome n/t Catherina Aug 2015 #63
Great article! hifiguy Aug 2015 #65
Who treats race as "permanent and unchanging"- link please! bettyellen Aug 2015 #66
race is not permanent and unchanging noiretextatique Aug 2015 #76
Class issues threaten both Parties' financial backers. Social ones do not. nt Romulox Aug 2015 #70
i am wondering where all those outraged black Duers are? noiretextatique Aug 2015 #79
You know where to find them. kwassa Aug 2015 #85
and here is the rest of Bernie's problem, from today's NYT. kwassa Aug 2015 #86
Don't get me started Catherina Aug 2015 #88
Not SOCIALISM...not from MLK!? noiretextatique Aug 2015 #92
Your inability to discuss the issues is telling. kwassa Aug 2015 #93
Some would rather control what others think Waiting For Everyman Aug 2015 #89
Because liberals know folks like Julian Bond greymattermom Aug 2015 #91
ttt Blue_Tires Aug 2015 #94
Great article, very thoughtful, thanks. nt Zorra Aug 2015 #95
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