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noiretextatique

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79. i am wondering where all those outraged black Duers are?

Sun Aug 23, 2015, 07:14 PM

Aug 2015

now that i've had a white person tell me he knows not only what most black DUers think, but he know what most black americans think also. if he was a bernie supporter...this would be a MAJOR problem, probably worthy of its own OP. Clinton supporter...not so much. GOT IT.

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Why Liberals Separate Race from Class [View all] Catherina Aug 2015 OP

This is a good read...K & R... Wounded Bear Aug 2015 #1

Good understanding of this explosive issue that seems to have been influenced ... AuntPatsy Aug 2015 #2

Good read Catherina... AOR Aug 2015 #3

Thanks Catherina malaise Aug 2015 #4

It's all true, but that doesn't make it wrong to focus on racism starroute Aug 2015 #5

+1 navarth Aug 2015 #7

Of course not, we agree on that Catherina Aug 2015 #11

Agree with both of you........ socialist_n_TN Aug 2015 #36

Hi my friend! Catherina Aug 2015 #39

Yep. I really do believe that was his first goal with his candidacy........ socialist_n_TN Aug 2015 #42

If so, I hope the movement is sound enough in basic theory Catherina Aug 2015 #61

Recommended. mmonk Aug 2015 #6

Another Jacobin fan RufusTFirefly Aug 2015 #18

. mmonk Aug 2015 #35

Bookmarked for later. hifiguy Aug 2015 #8

K&R...thank you! n/t OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #9

I could be wrong, but didn't some Black American DUers Baitball Blogger Aug 2015 #10

Not all Black DUers, just a few who claim to speak for everyone Catherina Aug 2015 #14

Thank you for the response. Baitball Blogger Aug 2015 #20

+1000 "It's all about political access and economic rewards" n/t Catherina Aug 2015 #22

There is a reason for D politicians Who have adopted a hybrid theory of governance Dragonfli Aug 2015 #26

As if I didn't love you enough already! Thanks 4 an astute, awesome post Catherina Aug 2015 #28

Token support for minorities, is what it boils down to. Baitball Blogger Aug 2015 #30

This deserves to be its own OP. stranger81 Aug 2015 #67

You're wrong. Almost all black DUers disagree with this type of analysis. kwassa Aug 2015 #32

How are you going to change the Police Department's antagonistic process, Baitball Blogger Aug 2015 #60

Public perceptions are being changed about the police. That is what BLM .... kwassa Aug 2015 #77

how can you possibly know what most black americans think? noiretextatique Aug 2015 #72

I know a lot of black people. Don't you? kwassa Aug 2015 #74

how about common sense? noiretextatique Aug 2015 #78

There is no way Sanders will not be painted as a socialist. kwassa Aug 2015 #81

yeah the ones who claim all AA's hate other AA critics of Obama. m-lekktor Aug 2015 #51

K & R beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #12

Thanks. I'm glad to be back too Catherina Aug 2015 #23

Very good analysis; makes sense of a lot of things. n/t Beartracks Aug 2015 #13

This webpage is not available LWolf Aug 2015 #15

Are you using Chrome? Catherina Aug 2015 #16

I WAS using chrome; LWolf Aug 2015 #19

I'm glad FF worked Catherina Aug 2015 #25

Oh, no. LWolf Aug 2015 #31

I'll send you an extra duster Catherina Aug 2015 #62

Okay. LWolf Aug 2015 #64

Excellent read. Recommended. RufusTFirefly Aug 2015 #17

Great read. I have felt this needed saying DirkGently Aug 2015 #21

cogent, drama-free analysis of the realities of change. nashville_brook Aug 2015 #24

Bookmarking for later, thank you :) n/t slipslidingaway Aug 2015 #27

Interesting read. Gormy Cuss Aug 2015 #29

Class and race operate both separately and together to impoverish people. Catherina Aug 2015 #38

I don't see anyone here separating the two. Well, let me correct that. I DO see people here sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #45

I see people here who almost reflexively try to shift a racial injustice topic into an economic one Gormy Cuss Aug 2015 #46

What's really tiresome is to see such an enormous issue, ignored mostly by the same people sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #48

This analysis is mistaken, of course. It is, of course, from a socialist magazine .... kwassa Aug 2015 #33

+10^10^100. The piece is extremely poorly written and makes points that don't follow at all. stevenleser Aug 2015 #40

So are you ssaying that you do not support Economic Equality/Justice for minorities? That appears sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #47

"So are you ssaying that you do not support Economic Equality/Justice for minorities?" NuclearDem Aug 2015 #49

What does any of that have to do with fighting for economic equality? And just WHO has ever said sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #50

You are diverting the topic. This thread is about BLM, not income equality per se. kwassa Aug 2015 #53

The topic is 'why Liberals Separate Racism from Class'. That is what the title of the OP sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #55

No, the issue of income equality is not irrelevant. kwassa Aug 2015 #73

It's not just the AA posters on DU. Huge majorities of black people everywhere have been saying this Number23 Aug 2015 #87

I have to wonder if O.J. Simpson had been poor, not having celebrity and economic power would the Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #52

I think we know the answer to that Uncle Joe! sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #54

It don't get it either, sabrina? Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #56

You don't get it because those arguments don't exist. NuclearDem Aug 2015 #57

Nobody is saying it will, but economic justice will go a long way toward leveling the playing field. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #58

Right-wing economics... MountCleaners Aug 2015 #84

Shameless bullshit allegation - and you know it is. Twisting the truth that they are sometimes bettyellen Aug 2015 #68

Sorry, but that is how it is coming across. sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #69

No one said it - so stop saying they did. It's nonsense. bettyellen Aug 2015 #71

Who is "they"? It is just a charge being thrown about. Capitalism requires division, an hierachy mmonk Aug 2015 #41

Great post. Lisa D Aug 2015 #43

Well said kwassa. PragmaticLiberal Aug 2015 #44

how do you propose to end racism in all areas of American life? noiretextatique Aug 2015 #75

Educate the public about the history of racism and it's effects. kwassa Aug 2015 #80

Yet you don't even mention the profit motivation that caused .... socialist_n_TN Aug 2015 #82

Race was around long before capitalism. kwassa Aug 2015 #83

You're right but that person will never be able to accept that. If you have bought into stevenleser Aug 2015 #90

K & R historylovr Aug 2015 #34

Good article. daleo Aug 2015 #37

I'm so glad someone spelled this out daredtowork Aug 2015 #59

You're welcome n/t Catherina Aug 2015 #63

Great article! hifiguy Aug 2015 #65

Who treats race as "permanent and unchanging"- link please! bettyellen Aug 2015 #66

race is not permanent and unchanging noiretextatique Aug 2015 #76

Class issues threaten both Parties' financial backers. Social ones do not. nt Romulox Aug 2015 #70

i am wondering where all those outraged black Duers are? noiretextatique Aug 2015 #79

You know where to find them. kwassa Aug 2015 #85

and here is the rest of Bernie's problem, from today's NYT. kwassa Aug 2015 #86

Don't get me started Catherina Aug 2015 #88

Not SOCIALISM...not from MLK!? noiretextatique Aug 2015 #92

Your inability to discuss the issues is telling. kwassa Aug 2015 #93

Some would rather control what others think Waiting For Everyman Aug 2015 #89

Because liberals know folks like Julian Bond greymattermom Aug 2015 #91

ttt Blue_Tires Aug 2015 #94

Great article, very thoughtful, thanks. nt Zorra Aug 2015 #95