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In reply to the discussion: Why Liberals Separate Race from Class [View all]kwassa
(23,340 posts)83. Race was around long before capitalism.
If you think otherwise, you don't know history.
When the lighter ancient Egyptians were in power, they called the darker group "the evil race of Ish". When the darker ancient Egyptians were in power, they called the lighter group "the pale, degraded race of Arvad".[2] These differences also related to different cultural groups who competed for power. For example, the Ancient Egyptian sacred text called Book of Gates identifies four ethnic categories that are now conventionally labeled "Egyptians", "Asiatics", "Libyans", and "Nubians" (see Ancient Egypt and race), but such distinctions tended to conflate differences as defined by physical features such as skin tone, with tribal and national identity.
Classical civilizations from Rome to China tended to invest the most importance in familial or tribal affiliation than an individual's physical appearance (Dikötter 1992; Goldenberg 2003). Societies still tended to equate physical characteristics, such as hair and eye colour, with psychological and moral qualities, usually assigning the highest qualities to their own people and lower qualities to the "Other", either lower classes or outsiders to their society. For example, an historian of the 3rd century Han Dynasty in the territory of present-day China describes barbarians of blond hair and green eyes as resembling "the monkeys from which they are descended."[2] (Gossett, pp. 4).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_race_concepts
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Good understanding of this explosive issue that seems to have been influenced ...
AuntPatsy
Aug 2015
#2
Yep. I really do believe that was his first goal with his candidacy........
socialist_n_TN
Aug 2015
#42
There is a reason for D politicians Who have adopted a hybrid theory of governance
Dragonfli
Aug 2015
#26
How are you going to change the Police Department's antagonistic process,
Baitball Blogger
Aug 2015
#60
I don't see anyone here separating the two. Well, let me correct that. I DO see people here
sabrina 1
Aug 2015
#45
I see people here who almost reflexively try to shift a racial injustice topic into an economic one
Gormy Cuss
Aug 2015
#46
What's really tiresome is to see such an enormous issue, ignored mostly by the same people
sabrina 1
Aug 2015
#48
This analysis is mistaken, of course. It is, of course, from a socialist magazine ....
kwassa
Aug 2015
#33
+10^10^100. The piece is extremely poorly written and makes points that don't follow at all.
stevenleser
Aug 2015
#40
So are you ssaying that you do not support Economic Equality/Justice for minorities? That appears
sabrina 1
Aug 2015
#47
"So are you ssaying that you do not support Economic Equality/Justice for minorities?"
NuclearDem
Aug 2015
#49
What does any of that have to do with fighting for economic equality? And just WHO has ever said
sabrina 1
Aug 2015
#50
You are diverting the topic. This thread is about BLM, not income equality per se.
kwassa
Aug 2015
#53
The topic is 'why Liberals Separate Racism from Class'. That is what the title of the OP
sabrina 1
Aug 2015
#55
It's not just the AA posters on DU. Huge majorities of black people everywhere have been saying this
Number23
Aug 2015
#87
I have to wonder if O.J. Simpson had been poor, not having celebrity and economic power would the
Uncle Joe
Aug 2015
#52
Nobody is saying it will, but economic justice will go a long way toward leveling the playing field.
Uncle Joe
Aug 2015
#58
Shameless bullshit allegation - and you know it is. Twisting the truth that they are sometimes
bettyellen
Aug 2015
#68
Who is "they"? It is just a charge being thrown about. Capitalism requires division, an hierachy
mmonk
Aug 2015
#41
You're right but that person will never be able to accept that. If you have bought into
stevenleser
Aug 2015
#90