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Fred Sanders

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8. Oil was indeed too good of an energy package...and way too profitable.....until maybe now it isn't?

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For those complaining Tesla's vehicles are toys for the rich. The Model 3 arrives in 2017 for $35K [View all] Statistical Sep 2015 OP

Imagine a battery the size of a suitcase able to power a car for 500 miles or a house...goodbye oil! Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #1

The oil companies really botched this. jeff47 Sep 2015 #3

Sadly oil was just "too good" ... Statistical Sep 2015 #5

Oil was indeed too good of an energy package...and way too profitable.....until maybe now it isn't? Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #8

We can hope so ... Statistical Sep 2015 #15

How many miles will it power the house? ryan_cats Sep 2015 #6

We are working on it...the innovation curve will be as steep as any other: Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #9

Batteries can't be charged as fast as gasoline tank (back to my gasoline was too good) Statistical Sep 2015 #11

They can't be recharged quickly, currently ryan_cats Sep 2015 #16

You can exchange packs faster than charging... a 250 mile range is around 4 days of driving... uponit7771 Sep 2015 #30

A prototype of this system was srarted in Europe a few years back... Eleanors38 Sep 2015 #40

No time for coffee Statistical Sep 2015 #43

Well, you have to drive to a gas station but with electric your cheap as dirt gas station is at home. Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #28

It can be if the fueling station has extra batteries stocked, and acts as a Volaris Sep 2015 #41

On cars, charge time depends on the charger. jeff47 Sep 2015 #14

+1 uponit7771 Sep 2015 #31

And fueled by solar panels on your roof. Matariki Sep 2015 #23

For comparison... jeff47 Sep 2015 #2

You can add Chevy Bolt (100% BEV same 200 miles range) Statistical Sep 2015 #7

Don't forget Chevy's new Volt and... TreasonousBastard Sep 2015 #13

Sure. Just trying to give a little context, not all context. jeff47 Sep 2015 #17

Right, the 30+ grand price point is a sweet spot... TreasonousBastard Sep 2015 #20

Keep in mind the "charging station" for home just requires a 240 outlet jeff47 Sep 2015 #21

I was thinking of rentals... TreasonousBastard Sep 2015 #25

For the most part new technology is quite expensive. Glassunion Sep 2015 #4

35k will buy me 3 daily drivers. ileus Sep 2015 #10

Good point but what about fuel Statistical Sep 2015 #12

Assuming they depreciate like a typical gas car jeff47 Sep 2015 #18

6-8yo??? I'd never buy a DD that new. ileus Sep 2015 #19

If it's in your price range, why not? jeff47 Sep 2015 #22

Really? "Old turds?" TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2015 #27

You have a point, a 7 yr old car is fully depreciated and quality is better now... cars last uponit7771 Sep 2015 #29

sssso between a Leaf and Prius, then MisterP Sep 2015 #24

Considering I've never paid more than $11k for a car BainsBane Sep 2015 #26

It will happen PasadenaTrudy Sep 2015 #34

To bad 35000 dollars is way more car workinclasszero Sep 2015 #32

still out of my price range PasadenaTrudy Sep 2015 #33

If you're only doing 10 miles, you've got lots of other options. jeff47 Sep 2015 #35

and a replacement battery pack or three. ileus Sep 2015 #36

Actually, the battery packs have been holding up very well. jeff47 Sep 2015 #37

WOW thats great! oneshooter Sep 2015 #38

2018 and $49,000 nationalize the fed Sep 2015 #39

I will take that bet. Statistical Sep 2015 #42