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Lurks Often

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16. Boring, don't you get tired of moving the goal posts?

Thu Sep 3, 2015, 05:03 PM

Sep 2015

I've noticed how you have repeatedly failed to explain how this law will prevent CURRENT poaching.

1. In 1977 CA made it illegal to sell any "new" ivory, although it continued to allow the sale of ivory that had been imported into the United States prior to 1977. Now they have made illegal to sell any ivory, no matter how long it has been in the United States to another CA resident. So how does this affect CURRENT poaching?

2. Here is the US government's position on ivory import: http://www.fws.gov/international/travel-and-trade/ivory-ban-questions-and-answers.html

3. Until you make it either unprofitable or too risky to poach, the poachers will continue to kill these animals. The quickest, most effective way would be to kill the poachers if they are caught with any banned ivory or any other banned animal body part.

4. As for my responses being based on guns, that is an ridiculously absurd example of grasping at straws because the discussion isn't going the way you wanted it to. That you had to go all the way back to November of 2009 shows how weak your argument is.

Again, explain how this law will prevent CURRENT poaching.

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California lawmakers pass ban on ivory to curb elephant poaching. Do you support or oppose the ban? [View all] CreekDog Sep 2015 OP

K&R! Omaha Steve Sep 2015 #1

kick so the gun folks can vote CreekDog Sep 2015 #2

What about 10,000 year old Russian or Alaskan mammoth ivory? Brother Buzz Sep 2015 #3

that would be banned under this law CreekDog Sep 2015 #4

Ah! Brother Buzz Sep 2015 #11

CA has had a ban on ivory being sold in the state since 1977 Lurks Often Sep 2015 #5

they're banning the sale of ivory CreekDog Sep 2015 #6

Yes Lurks Often Sep 2015 #7

YOU said the wrong thing about the law, YOU were the one that didn't understand it CreekDog Sep 2015 #9

Yawn, I missed adding a couple of words and you start in with snide comments Lurks Often Sep 2015 #10

so you're opposing a state law in California CreekDog Sep 2015 #12

I'm opposing the law because it is meaningless Lurks Often Sep 2015 #13

Stop playing games, to you this is about guns and that's why you oppose it. CreekDog Sep 2015 #14

Do you have my second day post at DU dumbcat Sep 2015 #15

You don't have a dossier, you have your posts, which are public CreekDog Sep 2015 #21

Boring, don't you get tired of moving the goal posts? Lurks Often Sep 2015 #16

Well i would guess that since it would cause the death of poachers, oneshooter Sep 2015 #19

Some are taking direct action sarisataka Sep 2015 #18

Go CALI GO!! yuiyoshida Sep 2015 #8

I don't see the point on banning the sale of Ivory over 4 decades old to save elephants alive today Algernon Moncrieff Sep 2015 #17

The argument is that a lot of ivory is apparently sold as "old" when it is in fact not, petronius Sep 2015 #20