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In reply to the discussion: Your view of the root cause of much of the general "mess" we are in [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)43. War Inc removed JFK...what McCain called ''The Intervention in Dallas.''
It was the phrase McCain used during a debate in '08. Weird word, perhaps ''Intervention'' is a code for removal from office by assassination.
These three DUers noticed:
Hootinholler:
Anyone else notice McCane referred to the Kennedy assasination as an intervention?
chimpsrsmarter
From the debate-McCain" before the intervention of the tragedy at Dallas."
stubtoe
Poppy Bush warned FBI -- AFTER -- JFK assassinated.
In the hour of the death of President John F. Kennedy, Texas oilman George Herbert Walker Bush named a suspect to the FBI in a "confidential" phone call. He then added he was heading for Dallas. Skeptics need not take my word for it, that's what Poppy told the FBI:

Here's a transcript of the text:
TO: SAC, HOUSTON DATE: 11-22-63
FROM: SA GRAHAM W. KITCHEL
SUBJECT: UNKNOWN SUBJECT;
ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT
JOHN F. KENNEDY
At 1:45 p.m. Mr. GEORGE H. W. BUSH, President of the Zapata Off-Shore Drilling Company, Houston, Texas, residence 5525 Briar, Houston, telephonically furnished the following information to writer by long distance telephone call from Tyler, Texas.
BUSH stated that he wanted to be kept confidential but wanted to furnish hearsay that he recalled hearing in recent weeks, the day and source unknown. He stated that one JAMES PARROTT has been talking of killing the President when he comes to Houston.
BUSH stated that PARROTT is possibly a student at the University of Houston and is active in political matters in this area. He stated that he felt Mrs. FAWLEY, telephone number SU 2-5239, or ARLINE SMITH, telephone number JA 9-9194 of the Harris County Republican Party Headquarters would be able to furnish additional information regarding the identity of PARROTT.
BUSH stated that he was proceeding to Dallas, Texas, would remain in the Sheraton-Dallas Hotel and return to his residence on 11-23-63. His office telephone number is CA 2-0395.
# # #
Gee. Why was Poppy Bush in Dallas when JFK was assassinated? Was he on official business? I suspect he was on Secret Government business. After all, his eldest dim son bragged during his Texas Air National Guard and Harvard grad school days that his daddy was CIA. Seeing how he would go on to become President, as would that dim son, I believe it's vitally important that we learn the Truth.
Here's an FBI document from the same week of the assassination in which FBI Director J Edgar Hoover briefed one "Mr. George Bush of the Central Intelligence Agency." Some strange coincidence there, wot?
Here's an FBI document from the same week of the assassination in which FBI Director J Edgar Hoover briefed one "Mr. George Bush of the Central Intelligence Agency." Some strange coincidence there, wot?

Here's a transcript of the above:
Date: November 29, 1963
To: Director
Bureau of Intelligence and Research
Department of State
From: John Edgar Hoover, Director
Subject: ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY
NOVEMBER 22, 1963
Our Miami, Florida, Office on November 23, 1963, advised that the Office of Coordinator of Cuban Affairs in Miami advised that the Department of State feels some misguided anti-Castro group might capitalize on the present situation and undertake an unauthorized raid against Cuba, believing that the assassination of President John F. Kennedy might herald a change in U. S. policy, which is not true.
Our sources and informants familiar with Cuban matters in the Miami area advise that the general feeling in the anti-Castro Cuban community is one of stunned disbelief and, even among those who did not entirely agree with the President's policy concerning Cuba, the feeling is that the President's death represents a great loss not only to the U. S. but to all of Latin America. These sources know of no plans for unauthorized action against Cuba.
An informant who has furnished reliable information in the past and who is close to a small pro-Castro group in Miami has advised that these individuals are afraid that the assassination of the President may result in strong repressive measures being taken against them and, although pro-Castro in their feelings, regret the assassination.
The substance of the foregoing information was orally furnished to Mr. George Bush of the Central Intelligence Agency and Captain William Edwards of the Defense Intelligence Agency on November 23, 1963, by Mr. W. T. Forsyth of this Bureau.
# # #
I do remember that GHWB was head of the CIA when the Church Committee and Pike Committee were looking into the CIA assassination programs. He made things all friendly-like and turned what had been a serious hunt for truth under previous DCI Colby into another dog-and-pony show that was big on show and light on facts.
Regarding Dallas: Now I don't know if Poppy was a trigger man, was only there to watch what happened or what just happened to be there. I do know Poppy Bush has never explained these memos. He's never even admitted where he was the day JFK was killed.
What's more, Poppy Bush sheltered mass-murdering jet-bombing terrorists like Luis Posada Carriles.
The United States and the world haven't been the same since November 22, 1963. And not a single major player in the nation's mass media have stepped up and demanded a real investigation. So, it's up to us, We the People.
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Your view of the root cause of much of the general "mess" we are in [View all]
NRaleighLiberal
Sep 2015
OP
Hard to put a good spin on Reagan and the horrible people who gave him power.
Bluenorthwest
Sep 2015
#4
Yeah, Reagan was a disaster, but the Nixon sleaze era started it all.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Sep 2015
#7
I agree 1000%. But I'd take it back to 1947, when the CIA was born and the Dulles boys took over.
hedda_foil
Sep 2015
#23
I believe that 11/22/63 was the Ur-moment, the moment after which (and re-emphasized in 1968) ALL
WinkyDink
Sep 2015
#17
It started with the deliberate decision to leave the USA on a wartime footing after WWII ended.
TransitJohn
Sep 2015
#18
I also see Watergate as the start of endless payback/attack that leads us to today's
NRaleighLiberal
Sep 2015
#33
thanks to all - there is a huge heap of deep thinking and well reasoned responses here.
NRaleighLiberal
Sep 2015
#35
The Warren Commision Report, Viet Nam. the release of the hostages, Iran Contra,
Peregrine Took
Sep 2015
#38