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In reply to the discussion: Your view of the root cause of much of the general "mess" we are in [View all]moondust
(20,711 posts)45. Financialization & globalization.
Both took off during the Reagan/Thatcher years.
Financialization is a term sometimes used in discussions of the financial capitalism that has developed over the decades between 1980 and 2010, in which financial leverage tended to override capital (equity), and financial markets tended to dominate over the traditional industrial economy and agricultural economics.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financialization
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financialization
Financialization rewards gamblers and "connected insiders" who already have more than they need, in many cases MUCH more than they need.
Globalization undermines the bargaining power of labor.
A consumer economy that provides jobs needs buyers. Such an economy is undermined by the concentration of wealth. No matter how much wealth they accumulate, fat cats are not going to keep buying a lot of microwave ovens and automobiles they don't need just to be nice guys and keep people working. In the past Obama has talked some about "bottom-up economics".
TheRump has suggested collecting tariffs on automobiles built offshore and then shipped back to dealers in the U.S. for sale. Such a tariff would seem to make their selling price competitive with autos made by Americans in the U.S. at higher wages. Why wouldn't this parity model work broadly? (Screaming "protectionism!" at the top of your lungs is not a valid argument.)
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Your view of the root cause of much of the general "mess" we are in [View all]
NRaleighLiberal
Sep 2015
OP
Hard to put a good spin on Reagan and the horrible people who gave him power.
Bluenorthwest
Sep 2015
#4
Yeah, Reagan was a disaster, but the Nixon sleaze era started it all.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Sep 2015
#7
I agree 1000%. But I'd take it back to 1947, when the CIA was born and the Dulles boys took over.
hedda_foil
Sep 2015
#23
I believe that 11/22/63 was the Ur-moment, the moment after which (and re-emphasized in 1968) ALL
WinkyDink
Sep 2015
#17
It started with the deliberate decision to leave the USA on a wartime footing after WWII ended.
TransitJohn
Sep 2015
#18
I also see Watergate as the start of endless payback/attack that leads us to today's
NRaleighLiberal
Sep 2015
#33
thanks to all - there is a huge heap of deep thinking and well reasoned responses here.
NRaleighLiberal
Sep 2015
#35
The Warren Commision Report, Viet Nam. the release of the hostages, Iran Contra,
Peregrine Took
Sep 2015
#38