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DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 05:04 AM Sep 2015

Robot sex would lead to objectification and mistreatment of women [View all]

http://gizmodo.com/dont-have-sex-with-robots-say-ethicists-1730866985

Robot ethicists have launched the Campaign Against Sex Robots, seeking a ban on the development of robotic sexytimes.

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Robot ethicists Kathleen Richardson of De Montfort University and Erik Billing from University of Skövde are the co-creators of the Campaign Against Sex Robots, which seeks to bring awareness to the issue and proposes a robot sex ban. They compare it to similar campaigns that seek to limit development of “killer” robots. Richardson and Billing believe that sex robots will degrade human relationships and reinforce a view of women as sexual objects.

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We believe the development of sex robots further objectifies women and children.
The development of sex robots and the ideas to support their production show the immense horrors still present in the world of prostitution which is built on the “perceived” inferiority of women and children and therefore justifies their uses as sex objects.
We propose that the development of sex robots will further reduce human empathy that can only be developed by an experience of mutual relationship.


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I do not agree at all with the author's attempt to find a reasonable middle.

We’re moving towards a future of sex with robots whether we like it or not. An outright ban would simply empower a new kind of robot pimp and create an unregulated robot sex black market where anything goes. Why not push for reasonable regulations instead, like ensuring the robots are secure against malware, must look/act of legal age, and establishing legal minimum ages (18+) to use their services?

Why do I not agree? Because legalization and regulation of sex-robots will mean precisely jack-shit for the human victims this shift in culture will cause.

How tricky will it be to get a sex-robot with the 3D-printed face of a celebrity?
A random girl you saw on the internet?
A co-worker you talk to every day?
That heartless slut that is your ex-girlfriend/ex-wife?

And how will this sex-robot react during sex?
Will it moan? What if it turns you on when the sex-robot doesn't moan but make other "noises"?
Will it willingly embrace you as a lover? What if it turns you on when the sex-robot doesn't willingly embrace you?

How long will it take until psychopaths discover that they can use sex-robots to indulge in their rape- and mutilation-fantasies instead of seeking psychological treatment?
Sure, the psychopath will rape/mutilate a sex-robot instead of a woman, but what happens if he is faced with the question whether or not to rape/mutilate a woman?

How long until "underage" sex-robots show up on the black market, so pedophiles can indulge in their irregular sexual urges instead of seeking psychological treatment?
Sure, the pedophile will fuck a sex-robot instead of a child, but what happens if he is faced with the question whether or not to fuck a child?

How are people supposed to learn to treat sexual partners as people if their sexual partners are obedient pieces of "PlasticFlesh&quot TM) that are willing to spread their legs whenever the human has the urge to get an orgasm?




And lastly:
Would you be comfortable with your face on a sex-robot? A dear friend's face on a sex-robot? Your wife's/husband's face on a sex-robot? Your child's face on a sex-robot?

It's Rule 34, baby: If technology can turn something into porn, IT WILL turn it into porn.
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A poor premise, followed by really asinine questions. ChairmanAgnostic Sep 2015 #1
More from the Abstinence Only Immoral Minority FreakinDJ Sep 2015 #28
"We’re moving towards a future of sex with robots whether we like it or not." PoliticAverse Sep 2015 #2
"I'm still waiting for the flying car I was promised in the future." graegoyle Sep 2015 #3
that is a separate issue of ai agency. Warren Stupidity Sep 2015 #12
What if your car doesn't want to fly? Dr. Strange Sep 2015 #21
It doesn't, it already said. n/t PoliticAverse Sep 2015 #22
My car is an idiot that doesn't know the difference between a door and a jar. Thor_MN Sep 2015 #73
Have mechanical phalluses made men into depersonalized sex-objects? graegoyle Sep 2015 #4
Good question, nowhere in the article is the name "sybian" mentioned. n/t PoliticAverse Sep 2015 #5
Great point. ChairmanAgnostic Sep 2015 #71
What the heck? Egnever Sep 2015 #6
I come to the exact opposite conclusion. PeteSelman Sep 2015 #7
Some people need to get a life and stop worrying what other people Katashi_itto Sep 2015 #8
Some busybodies want to control your sex life Cayenne Sep 2015 #51
But suppose someone wants a robot Shankapotomus Sep 2015 #9
My answer to all questions is who the fuck cares unless and until the machines are sentient? TheKentuckian Sep 2015 #10
This is perhaps the most ridiculous nonsense I've read here in the last five minutes. Warren Stupidity Sep 2015 #11
As the article says, this is about the cultural implications, not the sex itself. DetlefK Sep 2015 #16
A string of rhetorical questions is not an argument jberryhill Sep 2015 #18
thank you MsJaneFuzzyWuzzy Sep 2015 #47
+1000 smirkymonkey Sep 2015 #58
touch me, touch me, touch me, Oh you know what sucks take the wig off, have to reboot the bluetooth snooper2 Sep 2015 #49
This message was self-deleted by its author EvilAL Sep 2015 #13
Is that what passes for reasoned argument these days? jberryhill Sep 2015 #14
Spot on.... nil desperandum Sep 2015 #36
Your robot, your choice (nt) The Straight Story Sep 2015 #15
I think it will lead to objectification and mistreatment of robots. bemildred Sep 2015 #17
Why the hell not? Everything else does already. Orrex Sep 2015 #19
What? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #20
Is there a different fee depending on how your image is 'used'? n/t PoliticAverse Sep 2015 #24
Yes. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #26
Your deal sounds reasonable. Renew Deal Sep 2015 #33
I can't believe we're even having this conversation. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2015 #23
It's the Internet, play along. n/t PoliticAverse Sep 2015 #25
Are you in favor of getting rid of vibrators, too? I understand some people name theirs........ djean111 Sep 2015 #27
Someone could tape a celebrity's face onto a vibrator! It's only a matter of time! randome Sep 2015 #37
If I had to place bets either way, I would totally bet that this has happened already. nt stevenleser Sep 2015 #42
Or your daughter. Think of the children! Warren Stupidity Sep 2015 #60
No - Robot Sex Will Lead To The Estrangement Of Both Genders cantbeserious Sep 2015 #29
And why only women? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #30
...or transgender sex robots jberryhill Sep 2015 #41
Do I have to go with it to Home Depot and Ikea on Saturday morning? Facility Inspector Sep 2015 #31
No, but, remember, its annoying relatives are coming over on Thursday for dinner jberryhill Sep 2015 #39
The real concern is conception liberal N proud Sep 2015 #32
Exactly Renew Deal Sep 2015 #34
Will it come with a warranty? djean111 Sep 2015 #38
I'll stick with the WalMart models. BlueJazz Sep 2015 #35
Like several others, I see this the exact opposite way. stevenleser Sep 2015 #40
Pedos, maybe, but rape is about power. RadiationTherapy Sep 2015 #44
If we can go to the movies and suspend disbelief enough to enjoy some of the surreal stuff happening stevenleser Sep 2015 #46
A sentient rape therapy robot could provide Warren Stupidity Sep 2015 #61
First, yes, the OP is misguided. Second, a being either has agency that can be dominated RadiationTherapy Sep 2015 #64
If the emulation of agency passes for agency it is sufficient. Warren Stupidity Sep 2015 #66
I think sexbots are the perfect answer to human sexuality. betsuni Sep 2015 #43
This seems to me to be a silly concern, really. MineralMan Sep 2015 #45
yeah-- I agree. This is a really marginal issue that won't affect more than a tiny number of people Fast Walker 52 Sep 2015 #52
Nah, they'll be rented by the hour in mock brothels, each room a different fantasy. hunter Sep 2015 #70
What happens when the robots figure out they don't need us? Renew Deal Sep 2015 #48
Wouldn't this really be just masturbation? leftyladyfrommo Sep 2015 #50
Don't date robots! NuclearDem Sep 2015 #53
. NobodyHere Sep 2015 #59
Nothing against robo sex here damnedifIknow Sep 2015 #54
Wait a minute.... they could make a vibrator that exactly replicates some real man's penis! Nye Bevan Sep 2015 #55
The true crime would be if it ran on Windows 10. Glassunion Sep 2015 #56
The only important question is whether it would spill over into real life ecstatic Sep 2015 #57
Or the rapist is fully satisfied by the experience Warren Stupidity Sep 2015 #62
However, if he is banned from being intimate with a robot that has your face, Nye Bevan Sep 2015 #63
Duplicate DavidDvorkin Sep 2015 #65
So IOW, the horrible treatment of women and children will get worse? Rex Sep 2015 #67
. Glassunion Sep 2015 #68
Solves the MRA problem since they don't seem to want real women anyway. Katashi_itto Sep 2015 #69
BINGO!!!! Skittles Sep 2015 #72
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