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By definition, a person who is capable and willing to shoot up a classroom... TipTok Oct 2015 #1
but that is a completely different case from the typical mental healthcare patient paulkienitz Oct 2015 #47
That's a good example of the classic strawman and the subtle dissembling shift from HereSince1628 Oct 2015 #63
No one with "their ducks in a row" loves guns. hunter Oct 2015 #72
Your post was alerted. MADem Oct 2015 #100
Every time this happens it is the same story...someone pipoman Oct 2015 #2
And yet you seem to want to ignore the correlation of easy access to firearms Crunchy Frog Oct 2015 #5
No, I recognize the reality of it... pipoman Oct 2015 #10
People would still have the desire. Just not the means. Crunchy Frog Oct 2015 #14
It's not my work, it is constitutionally protected right with pipoman Oct 2015 #19
"The mentally ill" is a rather sweeping category Crunchy Frog Oct 2015 #23
If they're peaceful and harmless they probably don't want guns anyway... pipoman Oct 2015 #26
Maybe they want a gun for the same reasons you do. Crunchy Frog Oct 2015 #29
Violent people can't legally buy guns if they have a conviction pipoman Oct 2015 #32
...assuming the conviction gets in the NCIS database. backscatter712 Oct 2015 #43
No, it's a recent rogue SCOTUS decision. backscatter712 Oct 2015 #36
Agree there gwheezie Oct 2015 #39
the deadliest lancer78 Oct 2015 #52
So are you proposing that guns should be banned altogether TeddyR Oct 2015 #101
Neither. Crunchy Frog Oct 2015 #103
Should we ignore the correlation between gwheezie Oct 2015 #9
That isn't happening or likely, ignoring the mentally ill will not be acceptable pipoman Oct 2015 #13
+1 stage left Oct 2015 #35
+1000 kairos12 Oct 2015 #91
I demonize those who manufacture, sell, and lobby for guns. onehandle Oct 2015 #3
I find that ridiculous TeddyR Oct 2015 #102
It's personal for me too, and I'm sick of it as well. Crunchy Frog Oct 2015 #4
Wouldn't you rather be turned down for guns knowing it helps yeoman6987 Oct 2015 #54
Now why don't you ask that question of the gun fanciers on DU? Crunchy Frog Oct 2015 #59
Well there you go. yeoman6987 Oct 2015 #66
I see more a minimization and/or trivializing of the seriousness of mental illness. egduj Oct 2015 #6
No, it's just that some of us don't like the stigmatization Crunchy Frog Oct 2015 #16
It's not all about you. Should religious extremism not be condemned snagglepuss Oct 2015 #61
Wrong thread and wrong post. Crunchy Frog Oct 2015 #64
I'm horrified by some suggestions gwheezie Oct 2015 #7
Now why shouldn't people with diagnosed mental illness pipoman Oct 2015 #15
You really want to deter people from seeking assistance with mental health issues? Crunchy Frog Oct 2015 #18
A return to state facilities funded by feds pipoman Oct 2015 #21
So you want to lock up millions of people Crunchy Frog Oct 2015 #27
I love the liberty lovers gwheezie Oct 2015 #40
I can't support that. gwheezie Oct 2015 #34
+1 nt Live and Learn Oct 2015 #41
Um, that should be modernized. backscatter712 Oct 2015 #37
How about we tell the NRA Fuck You and lock them up in a prison. Gun nutosis should be diagnosed whereisjustice Oct 2015 #49
That wouldn't amend the constitution.. pipoman Oct 2015 #70
Well, that and the ability to ban the CDC's research on particular health matters. LanternWaste Oct 2015 #92
It's odd the disparities in your prophetic absolutes. LanternWaste Oct 2015 #90
Oh please gwheezie Oct 2015 #20
Glad to see you get the point pipoman Oct 2015 #22
Oh dear I've gotten the point years ago gwheezie Oct 2015 #25
That is what I'm saying gwheezie Oct 2015 #24
The NICS already is supposed to include everyone who has been involuntary committed right now pipoman Oct 2015 #28
I understand that gwheezie Oct 2015 #38
yep pipoman Oct 2015 #42
Okay, you asked the question and I will answer from the jwirr Oct 2015 #75
That was a thoughtful response pipoman Oct 2015 #87
And on what you just said I agree. Just wanted you to know jwirr Oct 2015 #88
I believe we need to mandate accurate reporting of pipoman Oct 2015 #93
Where do YOU draw the line? jen63 Oct 2015 #84
I think the line shouldn't be drawn at mental illness at all. backscatter712 Oct 2015 #94
Here, you and the science agree. backscatter712 Oct 2015 #73
It wasn't a mentally ill person that committed that shooting. NuclearDem Oct 2015 #8
Totally agree and I want to add that in general the Mentally ill have more to fear from us LostOne4Ever Oct 2015 #11
I agree. I think if mental illness is going to be the main focus, pacalo Oct 2015 #12
Anyone with depressive disorder would hurt themselves first xfundy Oct 2015 #17
Sadly, that is not entirely true. TM99 Oct 2015 #53
Well... John Holmes did live on, so did Dylan Roof (sp?), so did Nidal Hasan HereSince1628 Oct 2015 #69
I'm totally sick of it. stage left Oct 2015 #30
BTW, you might enjoy this podcast randys1 Oct 2015 #79
Thanks, randys1 stage left Oct 2015 #97
K&R me b zola Oct 2015 #86
I think it's the guns libodem Oct 2015 #31
I'm sick of the guns. Iggo Oct 2015 #33
I don't see demonization KT2000 Oct 2015 #44
Yep. I've said it before, I'll say it again: TygrBright Oct 2015 #45
I read your link and I've got one word for it: stage left Oct 2015 #99
Mass killings are commited by people with guns. I think that is 100% causal relationship. whereisjustice Oct 2015 #46
Like Andreas Lubitz? Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #67
The stigma is definitely real. KyleMcShades Oct 2015 #48
I submit since the NRA cares so much about mental health, they should be the first ones to be whereisjustice Oct 2015 #50
Good one...and true randys1 Oct 2015 #80
There are far too many people taking medication for depression to use them as scapegoats.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #51
Mental Healthcare in the US needs an overhaul clayton72 Oct 2015 #55
This particular notion has been so successfully put out by the right that the NRA Vinca Oct 2015 #56
Unless you're mentalling ill and trying to purchase a myriad of firearms to go and kill btrflykng9 Oct 2015 #57
anything but the fucking gunz. Warren Stupidity Oct 2015 #58
I think it is a subject that needs to be addressed Marrah_G Oct 2015 #60
Hey, being demonized is the first step toward political power, in the US LGBT people are demonized Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #62
Mental illness exists everywhere, in every country. frustrated_lefty Oct 2015 #65
The single biggest factor is easy access to firearms for everyone. alarimer Oct 2015 #68
I don't think they are demonized treestar Oct 2015 #71
K&R I think the problem is that when people use this term jwirr Oct 2015 #74
Personally, I Demonize Congress/Reagan fredamae Oct 2015 #76
Don't confuse opinions about Big Pharma and its wares with opinions on the patient. WinkyDink Oct 2015 #77
Me. nt kelliekat44 Oct 2015 #78
The mental illness is a society that has more guns than people. randys1 Oct 2015 #81
Yep. But anything to talk about other than the 300 million lethal portable hideable GUNS will do. Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #85
+1 nt stage left Oct 2015 #95
Me! Me! KamaAina Oct 2015 #82
Yup. zappaman Oct 2015 #83
Plenty of people here demonize all gun owners B2G Oct 2015 #89
Fox is a Crazy-Maker, that's way different than having a mental illness. Dont call me Shirley Oct 2015 #96
Saying that this particular mentally ill person shouldn't have had access to guns pnwmom Oct 2015 #98
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