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They don't. They are a fig leaf. Warren Stupidity Oct 2015 #1
"controlling the use and possession of other guns" Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #3
It's worked effectively elsewhere. Warren Stupidity Oct 2015 #5
Except when it hasn't. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #6
Which isn't once or twice every damm day... ananda Oct 2015 #9
On the contrary, every time there is a spree killer numerous laws have failed. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #10
This is a non sequitur. ananda Oct 2015 #87
"Good gun-control laws do have an effect on the frequency of gun violence." Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #88
A couple points.... Adrahil Oct 2015 #4
I'm all for regulating guns based on the amount of hot lead that comes out of the barrel per second. backscatter712 Oct 2015 #68
.. pipoman Oct 2015 #84
There is an AR-15 type gun manufactured in which the Snobblevitch Oct 2015 #97
Kids who accidentally kill other kids with guns are not mentally ill...their Parents are. Not every kelliekat44 Oct 2015 #45
They don't. This is obvious. Look around. nt bemildred Oct 2015 #2
Stopping disturbed persons isn't their main intent, anyway. Lizzie Poppet Oct 2015 #7
As someone with a "mental illness" I take powerful meds for, I find your post highly offensive. hunter Oct 2015 #8
First, if you choose to be offended that is your choice. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #12
It distracts from the actual issue -- gun fetishism in the U.S.A.. hunter Oct 2015 #20
Controllers are the fetishists. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #21
Well... Chan790 Oct 2015 #23
Because self-defense is a right and the misuse and abuse by others does not abrogate those rights. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #26
Who is trying to ban self defense? n/t kcr Oct 2015 #31
Who is trying to own a nuclear bomb? Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #37
Aww. And you said, "go for it" kcr Oct 2015 #38
I do not concede. Plenty of Controllers demand people be disarmed up to and including Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #39
You do not understand what straw man means kcr Oct 2015 #40
No one claims private nuclear bombs are a practical means of self-defense. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #41
Except I wasn't claiming anyone was making that argument kcr Oct 2015 #42
Okay. So let's play with your stupid analogy, which is stupid. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #43
It's not stupid kcr Oct 2015 #44
"Your contention that no one should abrogate your decision" Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #47
I'm sorry, but it does. kcr Oct 2015 #48
I'm sorry but you can't just make stuff up. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #50
I forget. What is the well-regulated militia that all you gun folks belong to? HERVEPA Oct 2015 #53
Title 10 USC Section 311. Which Supreme Court do you belong to? Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #54
About Title 10 (I'll take what was obviuosly meant in The Constitution) HERVEPA Oct 2015 #60
I see you're unfamiliar with Section 311 Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #61
I read it, Ms. Pomposity. I'll still take the obvious meaning of the Constitution (nt) HERVEPA Oct 2015 #63
The obvious meaning of the constitution that since the militia supplies its own arms Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #64
Pick and choose whatever BS you'd like. I'm done with your crap. HERVEPA Oct 2015 #66
Interesting citation. Let's look at it without your dubious lifting it out of context -- Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #67
So both the President and the Demcratic party platform got it wrong hack89 Oct 2015 #73
yup HERVEPA Oct 2015 #75
I think I will go with the guy who taught constitutional law. Nt hack89 Oct 2015 #76
Yeh, you go with the dead kids. HERVEPA Oct 2015 #78
So what you're saying is, by your own rules, if you don't support reinstating Prohibition Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #80
Apples and unicorns HERVEPA Oct 2015 #82
No. No, it's not. You can try to pretend the analogy is not apt but there is no argument you Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #83
Enjoy your gun stuff for the next week. I'm off dancing in a gun-free zone with non-gunners. HERVEPA Oct 2015 #94
jury results restorefreedom Oct 2015 #92
Thanks for posting. HERVEPA Oct 2015 #93
no problem. restorefreedom Oct 2015 #95
"Controllers are the fetishists." Gidney N Cloyd Oct 2015 #24
The Controllers hit bottom years ago when they started cheering violence against gun owners Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #27
My mistake. _Now_ it's hit bottom. Gidney N Cloyd Oct 2015 #28
Is it the fact some Controllers have violent ideations or my temerity in pointing out the fact? Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #36
I like to pretend everyone is ignoring the criminals too LanternWaste Oct 2015 #58
Yeah? beevul Oct 2015 #70
Congratulations, you're a sucker for the old NRA right-wing manipulation. backscatter712 Oct 2015 #11
FACT: I never said most mentally ill people are violent Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #13
Mental health needs to get more attention but inwiththenew Oct 2015 #14
I don't think we need "all mental health records" Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #15
According to real research: backscatter712 Oct 2015 #16
"you'd cut the overall violence rate by about 4%." Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #17
Do what Australia did. n/t backscatter712 Oct 2015 #18
Yeah, about that often cited but seldom scrutinzed talking point -- Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #19
Oh, it's not just the "spree killers." hunter Oct 2015 #22
How does misuse and abuse by one person abrogate the rights of another? Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #25
I have the right to defend myself against pests in my house. kcr Oct 2015 #32
Go for it. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #33
That's twisting the research, IMHO Nevernose Oct 2015 #71
It indeed is a "top-down thing," branford Oct 2015 #74
Look we can't keep guns out of hands that should upaloopa Oct 2015 #29
You can no more keep guns from everyone than you can keep drugs from everyone. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #35
the Columbine kids got their guns because no backround checks- end straw purchases! bettyellen Oct 2015 #30
There are laws against straw purchases and I support those laws. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #34
but they happen more often when they can get away with no paperwork- she would not have done it bettyellen Oct 2015 #49
So, returning to the OP. How would UBCs matter unless the mentally ill were ID'ed and Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #51
We can walk and chew gum at the same time. We need more mental health services- and bettyellen Oct 2015 #52
Stricter how? Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #55
You can look a million places for good proposals on gun regulations- why pretend you need me? bettyellen Oct 2015 #56
I've seen lots of proposals undet the guise of "common sense" that would have no bearing while Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #59
And the girlfriend who did the buying and straw purchases Lee-Lee Oct 2015 #46
That is such an important point mainstreetonce Oct 2015 #62
Many also say most mentally healthy people are not violent. LanternWaste Oct 2015 #57
For policy it's not a question of if mentally ill are or aren't violent HereSince1628 Oct 2015 #69
Private sales DustyJoe Oct 2015 #65
The majority of firearm deaths (60%) are suicides madville Oct 2015 #72
Japan, which recognizes no RKBA, has a suicide rate that dwarfs our own. People need help Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #77
The "mentally ill" are not more violent than the rest of the population Recursion Oct 2015 #79
The violent ones are. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #81
If only any other country in the world had to deal with mental illness ... LannyDeVaney Oct 2015 #85
Mass killings by the dangerously mentally ill don't just happen in America, i.e. Andreas Lubitz Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #86
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No u! Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #90
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Yet everything you define as objectionable for the mentally ill Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #98
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Never met a republican yet that wasn't mentally ill. B Calm Oct 2015 #91
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