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2. first, you'd have to locate an 'education policy' of Romney's to debate
Sun May 27, 2012, 11:08 AM
May 2012

You may well find Romney parroting some similar proposals, but without substance, we'll just have to assume that he's still favoring investment in private institutions over public education. He's still criticizing President Obama for his opposition to Romney's school voucher proposals.

His campaign released a white paper highlighting his support for federal vouchers — a plan to reroute tax dollars sent to public schools to help educate poor and disabled children, instead letting that money follow the students to private schools. The federal government will spend $48.8 billion this year on poor and disabled students.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/nationall/education/mitt-romney-promotes-school-vouchers-in-attack-on-obamas-education-policy/2012/05/23/gJQAZN37kU_story.html


here's a perspective from the Nation
: http://www.thenation.com/blog/168059/what-we-still-dont-know-about-mitt-romney-and-education

Does Romney support the implementation of the Common Core curriculum standards? Partly in response to federal funding incentives put in place by the Obama administration, forty-six states have agreed to adopt these shared English and math standards, which will be far more challenging than many current state curriculum guidelines, and will include more writing, more non-fiction reading, and greater conceptual depth in math. Meanwhile, conservative legislators in South Carolina and several other states are pushing to prevent the Core’s implementation, complaining it robs parents and local districts of influence. Romney’s education white paper never even mentions the Common Core, and makes no statement at all on matters of curriculum. A campaign staffer told Education Week that while Romney supports the Core, he believes the Obama administration has gone too far in pushing states to adopt the standards. That’s a pretty theoretical definition of “support,” since implementation of the standarnds will be the program’s key challenge.

Will Romney protect funds for poor and disabled kids? Romney’s white paper lays out a teacher quality proposal similar to the one advanced by House Republicans earlier this year. But he has been silent on another priority of the Congressional GOP: allowing local schools and districts to redirect Title I and IDEA funds—now targeted exclusively toward poor and disabled children—toward other types of programs that serve larger populations. This is a direct attack on the federal government’s traditional, civil rights-oriented role in education funding. Would Romney sign such legislation?

What about preventing draconian local budget cuts? The House GOP wants to give states and districts access to federal dollars regardless of how drastically they cut local school budgets. Current law helps tamp down on local budget cuts by tying federal aid to “maintenance of effort” on programs for disadvantaged children. Does Romney agree with the House Republicans, or with the law as it is written, and has been supported by both parties in the past?

How about the youngest learners? High-quality preschool is one of the most effective interventions to build children’s cognitive, social, and emotional development, yet only about half of American 3- to -5-year-olds are enrolled in any kind of organized program. As my colleague Maggie Severns writes at Early Ed Watch, Romney hasn’t uttered a word on the trail about pre-K, childcare or full-day kindergarten, all priorities the Obama administration has attempted to address (with mixed success) through its Race to the Top program. As governor of Massachusetts, Romney actually presided over an increase in pre-K enrollment, yet he isn’t bragging about this now, probably because pre-K is expensive.

http://www.thenation.com/blog/168059/what-we-still-dont-know-about-mitt-romney-and-education

You're leaving out an awful lot of stuff when you just blithely equate the two candidates' views and efforts on education. It's almost surreal to have that debate here on a Democratic board.

I agree completely, but the question that hangs in my mind is... Lionessa May 2012 #1
first, you'd have to locate an 'education policy' of Romney's to debate bigtree May 2012 #2
Yeah, well after much reading here on DU, I have little hope for the public system under Obama Lionessa May 2012 #5
well, just on the money invested on PE on the initiative of this admin alone he deserves support bigtree May 2012 #6
that money comes with strings. iemitsu May 2012 #8
'death warrant?' that's just hyperbolic nonsense bigtree May 2012 #9
big tree, you must not be a public school teacher. iemitsu May 2012 #12
charter schools, as they exist today, don't threaten your job bigtree May 2012 #15
The research you quote is from 1997, when the majority of the few charter schools that existed HiPointDem May 2012 #14
so, like, in a predominately black neighborhood, you'll find a charter school bigtree May 2012 #16
In case you didn't know, charter schools aren't neighborhood schools. They're open to all students. HiPointDem May 2012 #19
you act like they're corralling folk to the schools based on race bigtree May 2012 #22
I didn't say that, & I didn't do the study. I linked a reputable study & gave you a *fact* that HiPointDem May 2012 #23
the 'straw' is acting as if the racial makeup was some issue bigtree May 2012 #24
You're free to keep repeating the falsehood that charter schools are neighborhood schools, but HiPointDem May 2012 #25
schools aren't closing because of charters. There are many, many factors behind closing schools bigtree May 2012 #30
Public schools are closing because the PTB want them to close. Charter schools are opening HiPointDem May 2012 #32
Most, if not all, of the extra money the admin put into ed has been used to coerce states and HiPointDem May 2012 #13
'all the extra money?' That's not what I see in the budget. bigtree May 2012 #17
A large part of it went to RTTT, which went to coerce states and districts as I said. HiPointDem May 2012 #18
i see it the same way as you do HiPointDem. iemitsu May 2012 #20
you haven't proven that the discretionary spending is to 'coerce' states bigtree May 2012 #21
I don't have to "prove" it, it's right there in the requirements to get the money. HiPointDem May 2012 #26
those are incentives which are in addition to other increases in funding bigtree May 2012 #27
Not in RTTT they're not. Regardless of how much money comes from the feds, the impetus for HiPointDem May 2012 #28
I know enough bigtree May 2012 #29
"Handful"? There were over 5600 charter schools in the US 2 years ago, with more than 2 million HiPointDem May 2012 #31
compared to the amount of public schools, it's a pittance bigtree May 2012 #33
It was 5% in 2009, and getting bigger every year. Not to mention on-line schooling & vouchers, + HiPointDem May 2012 #34
I though we were assuming that we're both sincere in this discussion. I guess not. bigtree May 2012 #35
Bingo. 99Forever May 2012 #3
He came for nothing, and he left with what he came for. madashelltoo May 2012 #4
You mentioned Charter Schools goclark May 2012 #10
Thanks. Scurrilous May 2012 #7
It's hard work, pretending you give a rats ass annabanana May 2012 #11
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