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15. charter schools, as they exist today, don't threaten your job
Sun May 27, 2012, 06:33 PM
May 2012

It's doesn't add up to equate the two.

I'm sorry, I just think 'death warrant' is just nonsense. The notion that the educators in these charter schools are part of some 'scam' is hyper-inflated rhetoric. These schools vary greatly in make-up, mission, and effectiveness. It not something that's being forced on communities; it's a community choice.
There's no question that these new regulations and initiatives like the testing and the 'race' for funding is not what I'd prescribe. I'm not a fan of making schools compete for funding. poor performing schools usually need more resources, so, I'm no fan.

My mother taught in a D.C. school for 30 yrs. and volunteered for 20 more in another D.C. school. I do think this administration has decided to take a confrontational approach with teachers, and I think that's a shame.

Now, that said, we can't just ignore the fact that this administration and Congress have opted to stick with public schools. Almost 90% of school districts in the country have absolutely no competition from charter schools. It's hard to get worked up and declare the administration a disaster while they're initiating and approving record dollars for public education, including billions in the current budget for modernization, repairs, and construction of new schools.

The bleak picture you paint is good for firing folks up over what may well be a worthwhile debate over teacher's rights and benefits -- yet, the hyper-charged rhetoric leaves out so much of the support and progress that this administration has made in their term. I listed some above. The investment in dollars is unprecedented, and the control you speak of is aspirational, more than it is coercive. The federal contribution is still dwarfed by the states'. There have been waivers and other accommodations of individual states' obligations under the Leave No Child Behind Act and other regulations.

Moreover, it's easy to criticize the Democratic administration, but let's not forget what they've been resisting in the form of republicans' determination to neuter the federal contribution to education. We can argue about this regulation or the other, but it's still a major improvement over the opposition to have a Democratic administration still committed to initiating and approving increases in the amount of federal dollars that go into traditionally state-funded schools.

The alternative? Look at the teachers which were able to hold onto their jobs as a result of this administration's hard-fought-for Recovery Act. It's just not credible to argue that this administration is some enemy of public education, or even teachers. We just saw the president defend smaller classes, which don't just automatically work with just any level of teacher. Studies show that the standards the administration is calling for in teacher education are necessary for the success of those classrooms. We need to keep working to find the right balance of opportunity and expectation.

I agree completely, but the question that hangs in my mind is... Lionessa May 2012 #1
first, you'd have to locate an 'education policy' of Romney's to debate bigtree May 2012 #2
Yeah, well after much reading here on DU, I have little hope for the public system under Obama Lionessa May 2012 #5
well, just on the money invested on PE on the initiative of this admin alone he deserves support bigtree May 2012 #6
that money comes with strings. iemitsu May 2012 #8
'death warrant?' that's just hyperbolic nonsense bigtree May 2012 #9
big tree, you must not be a public school teacher. iemitsu May 2012 #12
charter schools, as they exist today, don't threaten your job bigtree May 2012 #15
The research you quote is from 1997, when the majority of the few charter schools that existed HiPointDem May 2012 #14
so, like, in a predominately black neighborhood, you'll find a charter school bigtree May 2012 #16
In case you didn't know, charter schools aren't neighborhood schools. They're open to all students. HiPointDem May 2012 #19
you act like they're corralling folk to the schools based on race bigtree May 2012 #22
I didn't say that, & I didn't do the study. I linked a reputable study & gave you a *fact* that HiPointDem May 2012 #23
the 'straw' is acting as if the racial makeup was some issue bigtree May 2012 #24
You're free to keep repeating the falsehood that charter schools are neighborhood schools, but HiPointDem May 2012 #25
schools aren't closing because of charters. There are many, many factors behind closing schools bigtree May 2012 #30
Public schools are closing because the PTB want them to close. Charter schools are opening HiPointDem May 2012 #32
Most, if not all, of the extra money the admin put into ed has been used to coerce states and HiPointDem May 2012 #13
'all the extra money?' That's not what I see in the budget. bigtree May 2012 #17
A large part of it went to RTTT, which went to coerce states and districts as I said. HiPointDem May 2012 #18
i see it the same way as you do HiPointDem. iemitsu May 2012 #20
you haven't proven that the discretionary spending is to 'coerce' states bigtree May 2012 #21
I don't have to "prove" it, it's right there in the requirements to get the money. HiPointDem May 2012 #26
those are incentives which are in addition to other increases in funding bigtree May 2012 #27
Not in RTTT they're not. Regardless of how much money comes from the feds, the impetus for HiPointDem May 2012 #28
I know enough bigtree May 2012 #29
"Handful"? There were over 5600 charter schools in the US 2 years ago, with more than 2 million HiPointDem May 2012 #31
compared to the amount of public schools, it's a pittance bigtree May 2012 #33
It was 5% in 2009, and getting bigger every year. Not to mention on-line schooling & vouchers, + HiPointDem May 2012 #34
I though we were assuming that we're both sincere in this discussion. I guess not. bigtree May 2012 #35
Bingo. 99Forever May 2012 #3
He came for nothing, and he left with what he came for. madashelltoo May 2012 #4
You mentioned Charter Schools goclark May 2012 #10
Thanks. Scurrilous May 2012 #7
It's hard work, pretending you give a rats ass annabanana May 2012 #11
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