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Marr

(20,317 posts)
23. The fact is that gays, women...
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 01:17 PM
Nov 2015

...all the people already outlined, are aggressively oppressed in the Muslim world, in ways that simply do not happen in the west. They're oppressed specifically and directly on the guidance of scripture.

To deny that and pretend that these groups are just fine and dandy is like denying white privilege, or defending people like Kim Davis-- only several times worse. Gays aren't just denied marriage in the Muslim world, they're fucking executed. You want to defend that or offer one of these 'yeah, buts...', that's your prerogative.

Where does female genital mutilation fall on that metric? NickB79 Nov 2015 #1
FGM is a regional practice in north and east Africa, not a Muslim practice KamaAina Nov 2015 #3
Not practiced by the majority of Muslims. Crunchy Frog Nov 2015 #4
yeah it's just a couple million girls a year no big deal right? snooper2 Nov 2015 #61
a ringing endorsement: "my" religion is less murderous than "your" religion lol (not referring to msongs Nov 2015 #2
We'll just have to wait to see what kind of tally they can run up, then. maxsolomon Nov 2015 #5
Because Maher opened his yap most recently. KamaAina Nov 2015 #6
And he also has a weekly TV show upon which BuelahWitch Nov 2015 #27
Exactly! cpwm17 Nov 2015 #7
Anyone have a link to that actual study? Lee-Lee Nov 2015 #22
Here's more I found from the author of the study cpwm17 Nov 2015 #25
The fact that he hasn't published his work anywhere for people to review makes me question more Lee-Lee Nov 2015 #49
The ongoing 'Othering' of Muslims is calculated. Maedhros Nov 2015 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Nov 2015 #13
I also refuse to take part in it BuelahWitch Nov 2015 #28
Good post. I don't ignore, though very often want to, Hortensis Nov 2015 #40
It's mostly evangelical atheists trying to prove how smart they are by insulting others. Maedhros Nov 2015 #41
Oh, those. Yes, their extreme bigotry scares me, actually, Hortensis Nov 2015 #42
I agree and I'm an atheist also. cpwm17 Nov 2015 #50
That's not enirely true. cleanhippie Nov 2015 #54
I believe what you post. cpwm17 Nov 2015 #57
We're mostly on the same page. cleanhippie Nov 2015 #58
Well, at least you've found a way to make yourself feel superior... cleanhippie Nov 2015 #52
+1! 2naSalit Nov 2015 #59
knr Douglas Carpenter Nov 2015 #9
It's nice to see that you're still posting. cpwm17 Nov 2015 #10
Yeah. Because World War One and Two were wars that occurred due to religion. linuxman Nov 2015 #11
As long as people believe they are fighting for an invisible man in the sky, we're screwed NightWatcher Nov 2015 #12
I'm the first to realize we often rationalize many imaginary things as more tangible... LanternWaste Nov 2015 #24
Militarism, mutual defense alliances and imperialism had a lot to do with many of those wars. herding cats Nov 2015 #14
It depends on definition and motivation. Snobblevitch Nov 2015 #15
WWI and WWII are violence by mostly Christians cpwm17 Nov 2015 #18
"WWII are violence by mostly Christian" No.. EX500rider Nov 2015 #29
Germany is a Christian nation, the same with Italy. cpwm17 Nov 2015 #31
And yet more Shendao Chinese were killed by Shinto Japanese EX500rider Nov 2015 #32
In the 20th Century there was a lot of killing by a lot of different groups. cpwm17 Nov 2015 #43
This is a good point. closeupready Nov 2015 #37
I always thought it was a mistake to go back into Iraq. Snobblevitch Nov 2015 #38
You're not scaring anyone with this. You must not be a republican. pampango Nov 2015 #16
This is so fucking deceitful-- and when it's begun with an accusation of bigotry, it's particularly Marr Nov 2015 #17
Nobody that supports violence against Muslims, Netanyahu and his aggressive wars, cpwm17 Nov 2015 #19
I watch Real Time almost every week maxsolomon Nov 2015 #26
I haven't had access to cable in years. cpwm17 Nov 2015 #30
when was this? maxsolomon Nov 2015 #39
I haven't seen his show in the last eight years or so . cpwm17 Nov 2015 #48
because she's left the faith she doesn't get to claim it culturally? maxsolomon Nov 2015 #60
Maher is an Islamophobic bigot. closeupready Nov 2015 #20
The fact is that gays, women... Marr Nov 2015 #23
Bigotry is about being unfair to religious minorities, not just sexual minorities. closeupready Nov 2015 #33
Well stated. nt el_bryanto Nov 2015 #34
Thanks. closeupready Nov 2015 #35
And where would your evidence be leftynyc Nov 2015 #53
How Iran Solved Its Gay Marriage Problem snooper2 Nov 2015 #62
... closeupready Nov 2015 #63
You are spot on. katsy Nov 2015 #36
Hear, hear! smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #56
Exactly. cleanhippie Nov 2015 #55
The problem comes from toppling secular regimes and supporting fundamentalist regimes and rebels. CJCRANE Nov 2015 #21
I would venture to suggest that a gay couple holding hands would be safer in Dublin Nye Bevan Nov 2015 #44
I would venture to suggest that it's safer to doubt god in Dublin Yorktown Nov 2015 #45
Probably most of those activities are also safer in Vatican City Nye Bevan Nov 2015 #46
I don't care for Christianity, but they don't chop hands Yorktown Nov 2015 #47
Currently, Islam inspires the most terrorism... MellowDem Nov 2015 #51
Good post here Go Vols Nov 2015 #64
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