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In reply to the discussion: No, Muslims Are Not More Violent Than People of Other Religions. Here Are the Facts to Prove It. [View all]cpwm17
(3,829 posts)48. I haven't seen his show in the last eight years or so .
Ayaan Hirsi Ali isn't a Muslim now. She's a neoconservative atheist that works for the American Enterprise Institute. That's why the "new atheists" like her. They support her pro-war stance against Muslims.
She's also a fraud. Her past isn't what she claims, including her given name, which is Ayaan Hirsi Megan.
https://reason.com/archives/2007/10/10/the-trouble-is-the-west/1
Hirsi Ali: Only if Islam is defeated. Because right now, the political side of Islam, the power-hungry expansionist side of Islam, has become superior to the Sufis and the Ismailis and the peace-seeking Muslims.
Reason: Dont you mean defeating radical Islam?
Hirsi Ali: No. Islam, period. Once its defeated, it can mutate into something peaceful. Its very difficult to even talk about peace now. Theyre not interested in peace.
Reason: We have to crush the worlds 1.5 billion Muslims under our boot? In concrete terms, what does that mean, defeat Islam?
Hirsi Ali: I think that we are at war with Islam. And theres no middle ground in wars. Islam can be defeated in many ways. For starters, you stop the spread of the ideology itself; at present, there are native Westerners converting to Islam, and theyre the most fanatical sometimes. There is infiltration of Islam in the schools and universities of the West. You stop that. You stop the symbol burning and the effigy burning, and you look them in the eye and flex your muscles and you say, This is a warning. We wont accept this anymore. There comes a moment when you crush your enemy.
Reason: Militarily?
Hirsi Ali: In all forms, and if you dont do that, then you have to live with the consequence of being crushed.
Reason: Dont you mean defeating radical Islam?
Hirsi Ali: No. Islam, period. Once its defeated, it can mutate into something peaceful. Its very difficult to even talk about peace now. Theyre not interested in peace.
Reason: We have to crush the worlds 1.5 billion Muslims under our boot? In concrete terms, what does that mean, defeat Islam?
Hirsi Ali: I think that we are at war with Islam. And theres no middle ground in wars. Islam can be defeated in many ways. For starters, you stop the spread of the ideology itself; at present, there are native Westerners converting to Islam, and theyre the most fanatical sometimes. There is infiltration of Islam in the schools and universities of the West. You stop that. You stop the symbol burning and the effigy burning, and you look them in the eye and flex your muscles and you say, This is a warning. We wont accept this anymore. There comes a moment when you crush your enemy.
Reason: Militarily?
Hirsi Ali: In all forms, and if you dont do that, then you have to live with the consequence of being crushed.
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No, Muslims Are Not More Violent Than People of Other Religions. Here Are the Facts to Prove It. [View all]
KamaAina
Nov 2015
OP
a ringing endorsement: "my" religion is less murderous than "your" religion lol (not referring to
msongs
Nov 2015
#2
The fact that he hasn't published his work anywhere for people to review makes me question more
Lee-Lee
Nov 2015
#49
It's mostly evangelical atheists trying to prove how smart they are by insulting others.
Maedhros
Nov 2015
#41
As long as people believe they are fighting for an invisible man in the sky, we're screwed
NightWatcher
Nov 2015
#12
I'm the first to realize we often rationalize many imaginary things as more tangible...
LanternWaste
Nov 2015
#24
Militarism, mutual defense alliances and imperialism had a lot to do with many of those wars.
herding cats
Nov 2015
#14
This is so fucking deceitful-- and when it's begun with an accusation of bigotry, it's particularly
Marr
Nov 2015
#17
Nobody that supports violence against Muslims, Netanyahu and his aggressive wars,
cpwm17
Nov 2015
#19
Bigotry is about being unfair to religious minorities, not just sexual minorities.
closeupready
Nov 2015
#33
The problem comes from toppling secular regimes and supporting fundamentalist regimes and rebels.
CJCRANE
Nov 2015
#21
I would venture to suggest that a gay couple holding hands would be safer in Dublin
Nye Bevan
Nov 2015
#44