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Atman

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9. You're assuming that we actually have a voice.

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 04:05 PM

Nov 2015

Do you honestly believe The Powers That Be, those who actually run this country (CIA, Wall Street) are going to hand over the reins to a Socialist, or Donald Trump? At least Marco Rubio could be manipulated and played like a cheap fiddle (like W), but nobody gets the nuclear codes without being vetted by the people who actually make all the decisions. We don't actually vote for the candidate we want. We vote for the candidate they provide for us. It's always just two, and more and more the two are virtually indistinguishable. So this time around, it will be Jeb! (CIA daddy) or Hillary (already part of the game). That's just the way it is.

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It's gonna be Jeb! v Hillary. [View all] Atman Nov 2015 OP

Nah. I'm going with Rubio or Cruz versus Bernie. Dawgs Nov 2015 #1

No. It isn't. cherokeeprogressive Nov 2015 #2

Win win for them UglyGreed Nov 2015 #3

Yup. I've been saying this all along. KaryninMiami Nov 2015 #4

I've been saying it all along, too, but you know what? Bush himself has Nay Nov 2015 #8

You're assuming that we actually have a voice. Atman Nov 2015 #9

I want to have hope, but this sinking feeling tells me you are right. smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #13

Voting in the USA is an illusion. We think we have choice, some think so, but really it's IMO RKP5637 Nov 2015 #29

Oh, I'm assuming no such thing. As I said, I still think it can easily be Bush vs. Nay Nov 2015 #22

Hillary maybe, but Bush — nah he doesn't have the "it" factor. brush Nov 2015 #27

Just as soon as the men behind the curtain can get him out of the starting gate Brother Buzz Nov 2015 #5

I think many suspect that what you say is so. NowSam Nov 2015 #6

I am so excited to be able to vote, for the first time since 1976, without holding my nose. nt Mnemosyne Nov 2015 #7

Yep, it pretty much ended in later years. I know what you mean! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2015 #26

They Were Identified As The Presumptive Nominees Well Before This Primary Process Got Going.... global1 Nov 2015 #10

Trump will get it flamingdem Nov 2015 #11

Half probably wrong, half almost certainly right. Donald Ian Rankin Nov 2015 #12

I still think Jeb is the safest choice for the GOP. Midwestern Democrat Nov 2015 #19

That's a different question, and may have a different answer. Donald Ian Rankin Nov 2015 #23

Judging by dollars collected, you would be right, according to the 3rd quarter FEC report. LiberalAndProud Nov 2015 #14

even though the msm and mic wants him, jeb! is done like dinner. nt restorefreedom Nov 2015 #15

Hillary, maybe, but I think Jeb! is toast. Vinca Nov 2015 #16

fair and square reddread Nov 2015 #17

I hope it's neither. bigwillq Nov 2015 #18

"We're just here to watch the advertising." Lizzie Poppet Nov 2015 #20

Yep, sadly, that's pretty much the bottom line. n/t RKP5637 Nov 2015 #30

I have predicted jeb all along.... and Kasich for his VP. femmocrat Nov 2015 #21

The only way Jeb Bush gets the GOP nomination is EL34x4 Nov 2015 #24

In other words another election where you have to carry a barf bag and hold your nose. hobbit709 Nov 2015 #25

The voters so far aren't playing along. Renew Deal Nov 2015 #28

Well, the GOP Mixmaster will undoubtedly stir up a nominee. longship Nov 2015 #31

I think they may "reanimate" Romney. Koinos Nov 2015 #32