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In reply to the discussion: JFK worked to keep peace, bring prosperity for all. Others since 22 Nov 1963, not so much. [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)17. Thank you, Ellie. I heard him speak in 2013...
...Talbot made the case that Allen Dulles was the Chairman of the Board for the assassination. Seeing how the USA resembles more closely NAZI Germany than what it was in 1963, I think he's on to something.
David Talbot did not mince words in his presentation at Duquesne, either. He publicly named former CIA director Allen Dulles not only as participant in the cover-up of events concerning CIA in the assassination of President Kennedy, Talbot said Dulles was the chief architect of the assassination.
Mr. Talbot has worked for more than two years on a book that I believe will shake the nation's financial and political establishment to its core. Here are Mr. Talbot's words, outlining why:
...I think what we're going to show over the next few years is that Allen Welsh Dulles was much more centrally involved in the assassination of President Kennedy, and its cover-up, than Lee Harvey Oswald.
Fifty years later, it's finally time to give the man his rightful place in history. In his day, Allen Dulles was America's most legendary spymaster, the longest-serving director of the CIA. He took great pleasure in regaling the public about his espionage triumphs. But, for obvious reasons, he could never take credit for his biggest and boldest covert operation:
the killing of the President of the United States in broad daylight on the streets of an American city.
I hope that my forthcoming book, which will be titled "The Devil's Chessboard: Allen Dulles, JFK and the Epic Battle for America's Soul" will at long last give Mr. Dulles his due. As I say in my title of my remarks this morning, I believe Allen Dulles truly was the "Chairman of the Board of the Kennedy Assassination."
In September 1965, nearly two years after Kennedy was violently removed from office, Allen Dulles went for a stroll near his home in Georgetown with a young magazine editor named William Morris. The old spymaster, long since retired, struck Morris as an amiable, avuncular character until the name Kennedy suddenly came up in the conversation. Suddenly a dark cloud crossed the old man's brow.
"That little Kennedy," he spat out. "He thought he was a god."
Allen Dulles knew who the true overlords of American power were. (They were) men like him and his brother, not Jack and Bobby Kennedy. The Kennedys were mere upstarts in comparison to the Dulles family. The Dulles dynasty boasted diplomats and international bankers and three secretaries of state. The Kennedy clan, by comparison, was distinguished by saloon keepers and ward healers. When paterfamilias Joseph Kennedy was amassing his fortune as a movie mogul and stock gambler, Dulles and his older brother were running Wall Street from their perch at the world's largest law firm, Sullivan and Cromwell and creating a new global financial order.
During the Cold War, President Eisenhower outsourced the country's foreign policy to the Dulles Brothers, with Secretary of State John Foster Dulles serving as the architect of Washington's global crusade against communism, and Allen Dulles carrying out the darker chores of empire.
Soviet leader Nikita Krushchev who kept looking for a way out of the Cold War noose but found himself repeatedly checkmated by the Dulleses remarked at one point, "One shuddered at what great force was in the Dulles Brothers' hands."
The Dulles Brothers stood at the very apex of American power, straddling an elite network that connected Wall Street, Washington, big oil and international finance. John Foster Dulles was the ultimate counselor for that overworld that ruled the country's government and business, and his younger brother Allen was at privileged circles master of intrigue and subversion, its enforcer...
Mr. Talbot had a lot more to say about the Dulles Brothers, especially Allen Dulles as head of CIA. One of the most important things to remember, Dulles, even after he was out of office, continued to command the respect of people like James Jesus Angleton and Richard Helms, people he had promoted to their positions of power, and people who kept their knowledge of CIA assassination programs away from President Kennedy and the various government investigators who would later ask them about them.
Something I'm personally proud to add: Dulles and his brother are two of the main founders of the BFEE, a term Bartcop coined and I borrow to denote the War Party affiliated with the right wing Wall Street crowd that infested Washington for much of the late 19th and 20th century. Allen Dulles was a good friend and business associate of Prescott Sheldon Bush, Sr.
During the Depression, they tried to overthrow FDR. Before and during World War II, they did business with Hitler. After the war, they imported NAZIs to help fight the commies and build up a case for the Military Industrial Complex. They've done a lot since, from Vietnam to Iraq.
Secret government is un-democratic and, as the illegal wars for oil show, fascistic.
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JFK worked to keep peace, bring prosperity for all. Others since 22 Nov 1963, not so much. [View all]
Octafish
Nov 2015
OP
Don't turn a nice post into some CT shit. Just keep it like it was. I knew you started it for this.
Logical
Nov 2015
#13
The video taken minutes before the assassination shows the agents ordered OFF the bumper.
Octafish
Nov 2015
#47
If logical questions unanswered all these years bother you, change your name
MrMickeysMom
Nov 2015
#78
I caught a little bit of a program today that was running clips of the actual coverage from
dflprincess
Nov 2015
#34
Thanks, Octafish! JFK and his story are really more complicated than his admirers or detractors....
LongTomH
Nov 2015
#3
Thank you, CaliforniaPeggy! Did you read what Prescott Bush wrote to Clover Dulles?
Octafish
Nov 2015
#31
Thank you, my dear octafish--I had not read this. Pretty interesting stuff!
CaliforniaPeggy
Nov 2015
#35
Phil Shenon on Coast To Coast last night claims Poppy had no connection to the assassination
librechik
Nov 2015
#49
Guy is working to divert discussion of conspiracy involving secret US agencies.
Octafish
Nov 2015
#69
People still love JFK and project their hopes on him decades later. In truth he was moderate.
craigmatic
Nov 2015
#6
Ok name one initiative he got put in place to help the poor in this country?
craigmatic
Nov 2015
#12
Plus Peace Corps, space program, nuclear test ban treaty, and the Economic Opportunity Act of 1964
ucrdem
Nov 2015
#32
Recording of JFK telling Sargent Shriver not to let CIA infiltrate the Peace Corps [audio]
MinM
Nov 2015
#56
The truth about how close we came to annihilating each other wasn't known for 30 years.
Major Hogwash
Nov 2015
#52
Interview with blacklisted comedian, Mort Sahl, 1968 quotes and warnings after JFK's death.
Octafish
Nov 2015
#98
CIA Dulles hired MAFIA to kill Castro in 1960, yet US media continue to misreport it as JFK's idea.
Octafish
Nov 2015
#106
''All of them together will observe the law of silence...They don't want to know.''
Octafish
Nov 2015
#107
Regarding Bay of Pigs: Dulles and CIA did not tell JFK security mission was compromised.
Octafish
Nov 2015
#71
Recced. Thanks for the o.p. info, and for making a space for the info provided by other good
Mc Mike
Nov 2015
#92
Stephanie's 2-22-2006 UAE and BCCI thread reposted for those that love the truth
bobthedrummer
Nov 2015
#99
Who could imagine "our" goverment would actively seek to move jobs overseas.
Enthusiast
Nov 2015
#102