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Proud Liberal Dem

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54. Aren't the waivers already being made available as part of ACA
Tue May 29, 2012, 12:31 PM
May 2012

sort of a "lifeline" for single-payer? Frankly, I think that universal SP is going to come from the ground up, not the top-down. Once some states adopt it and if it works out, people in other states will invariably take notice and if they want it too, they'll push their own legislators to give it to them as well. Likewise for all of those Republican "free market" fans, they will have an opportunity to prove the superiority of their *ideas* as well- as long as they can demonstrate that they at least meet the standards set by ACA. All in all, ACA really wasn't that bad of a deal IMHO when you consider things like this.

I like this. limpyhobbler May 2012 #1
was not Vermont leading the way on this approach? oldhippydude May 2012 #2
Yeah, Bernie's state is single payer. nt valerief May 2012 #4
If a 10th Amendment argument disarms the RW I say go for it Nuclear Unicorn May 2012 #51
As long as BlueCrossBS doesn't get ahold of it. glinda May 2012 #3
The state by state approach is the only thing that will work at this time eridani May 2012 #5
I think thats how it came about in Canada. nt Snotcicles May 2012 #9
The problem(s) I have seen with the state controlled dotymed May 2012 #36
The red states have been defunding everything they can get their hands on. How much of this jwirr May 2012 #40
Yes, officeholders in red states want them to be hellholes eridani May 2012 #50
K & R Scurrilous May 2012 #6
Good plan gleannfia May 2012 #7
We have had this in the works for a long time. If it passes the Senate how likely is it to pass the jwirr May 2012 #41
A shred of hope... 2banon May 2012 #8
There ya have it. 99Forever May 2012 #10
He needs more people in Congress to help. He can't do it alone, but he never gives up... freshwest May 2012 #43
I believe Kucinich tried to insert such legislation into the NorthCarolina May 2012 #11
Foolishness, MadHound May 2012 #12
Foolishness my ass. It worked in Canada; it could work here magical thyme May 2012 #14
Thank you....I believe California is trying to join Vermont on this. whathehell May 2012 #17
Yes you're right. It was put to vote twice and arnie vetoed it Merlot May 2012 #28
Thanks...I figured Arnie would be against it whathehell May 2012 #33
It keeps being shot down. truedelphi May 2012 #29
Wow...Thanks for the information. Is Governor Brown behind it ? whathehell May 2012 #32
A lady named Sheila Kuehl has done much of the foot work truedelphi May 2012 #34
Thanks for that info, Truedelphi whathehell May 2012 #37
Good points! marions ghost May 2012 #38
That's how the Canadian system was created, province by province CreekDog May 2012 #19
well, if w'ere truly a mobile society, then someone trapped in a right-wing Doctor_J May 2012 #24
The problem is that we're not as mobile as the media claims. Fawke Em May 2012 #47
It would work well state-by-state! Rosa Luxemburg May 2012 #26
It's not ideal, but if New York and California made it work - TBF May 2012 #27
If SP lowers government expenses why wouldn't red states come around Nuclear Unicorn May 2012 #52
Because Hate Radio tells them that SP makes them Commies Doctor_J May 2012 #53
"Don't get sick, and if you do get sick, die quickly" is the only plan the GOP will support. nt cstanleytech May 2012 #13
K&R and Shared. patrice May 2012 #15
I wonder how long it will take Beowulf May 2012 #16
Even if the Democrats sulphurdunn May 2012 #18
Vote their asses out. freshwest May 2012 #44
I honestly wonder sulphurdunn May 2012 #48
Why would they not? How closely do you follow races and outcomes? freshwest May 2012 #49
"they will back it in mass." Alcibiades May 2012 #20
It's actually "en masse." ancianita May 2012 #22
damn d is next to the s Alcibiades May 2012 #45
Awesome, K&R. Waiting For Everyman May 2012 #21
Good point AnnieK401 May 2012 #46
What could be maindawg May 2012 #23
Ooooh yes! Rosa Luxemburg May 2012 #25
K&R....n/t unkachuck May 2012 #30
They had doctors and nurses arrested for advocating single payer and fought to maintain the Edweird May 2012 #31
Hopeful, but Sherman A1 May 2012 #35
lifeline- schmifeline... open MediCare as a buy-in nationwide stlsaxman May 2012 #39
Thanks, Jim, you never disappoint. freshwest May 2012 #42
Aren't the waivers already being made available as part of ACA Proud Liberal Dem May 2012 #54
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