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In reply to the discussion: The gigantic logic failure of gun confiscating [View all]GGJohn
(9,951 posts)173. Wow!!!
You dredge up something that happened over 60 years ago and apply it to today's military?
40+years in the Army and I can say with great confidence that the military would refuse to fire on American citizens.
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...heh-heh...I think littleblue is addressing a Real issue about controller dialog...
Eleanors38
Dec 2015
#263
Complete confiscation will likely require a couple of decades; but it is well worth it.
LonePirate
Dec 2015
#7
There is a poll today here on DU where the partial and full confiscation numbers are about 60%.
LonePirate
Dec 2015
#11
I would never underestimate how much the rest of DU wants guns gone.
cherokeeprogressive
Dec 2015
#78
I certainly agree that DU does not represent the nation as a whole. DU is merely a trendsetter.
LonePirate
Dec 2015
#88
You do realize that DU is a TERRIBLE predictor of national trends, right?
Lizzie Poppet
Dec 2015
#196
I don't know which Democratic president you think will stick his/her neck out that far
tularetom
Dec 2015
#98
So you support citizens possessing illegal items that endanger the lives of their neighbors?
LonePirate
Dec 2015
#13
How does the neighbor know if it is safely locked away? What if the neighbor's kids play there?
LonePirate
Dec 2015
#23
The cure - saving just 1 life - makes it far more important than the epidemic of gun violence.
LonePirate
Dec 2015
#29
Confiscation is a "solution" that would kill exponentially more than it saves.
Lizzie Poppet
Dec 2015
#240
The gundamentalists only care about guns. Nothing else matters - not even their fellow mankind.
LonePirate
Dec 2015
#51
Fact failure. In 2013 in the U.S., 33,636 deaths from firearms. 10.6 deaths per 100,000.
valerief
Dec 2015
#49
I was talking about mass shootings since that is what seems to be driving this particular tizzy...
TipTok
Dec 2015
#52
Some measures would. But all the focus on "assault weapons" and large magazines mostly wouldn't.
Lizzie Poppet
Dec 2015
#197
My money is on the LEOs when it comes to a showdown with 75 yo George the Gun Nut
LonePirate
Dec 2015
#25
Give me a tank and I'll do it. Come out gramps or you get a 105 mm high explosive round
MillennialDem
Dec 2015
#35
Far less insane than the gun nuts. Just trying to make the country a better place - while
MillennialDem
Dec 2015
#104
Not outside the mainstream for my age. And I've never wrecked my car or hit anyone drag racing, why
MillennialDem
Dec 2015
#111
Or at very least will keep them in their homes and won't dare take them outside. That alone is
MillennialDem
Dec 2015
#43
I'm not sure what rural community you live in but the urban LEOs want guns gone.
LonePirate
Dec 2015
#33
The so called 'rights' in the second amendment are tearing our country apart
Abouttime
Dec 2015
#162
"Another gun nut's spouse or neighbor may anonymously report them for confiscation. Social and peer
Brickbat
Dec 2015
#128
I feel absolutely no need to obey laws against the US Bill of Rights..
virginia mountainman
Dec 2015
#30
When we finally enact bans and confiscations, you can turn them over or go to jail. Your choice.
LonePirate
Dec 2015
#63
How surprising! A gunner who supports violence. Nothing matters except guns, huh?
LonePirate
Dec 2015
#72
Repeal is a good 30-50 years away, barring a major shift. But you underestimate young Americans.
LonePirate
Dec 2015
#81
What a magnificent counter-argument, I can feel myself getting smarter reading every word.
sibelian
Dec 2015
#80
it cant be done. it cannot be done. but you can not condone, and laws set the tone
reddread
Dec 2015
#243
Well, that would quickly sort out the real law abiding citizens from the criminals, wouldn't it? nt
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Dec 2015
#26
"you think they won't violently resist giving up their arms?" ...I absolutely expect it
951-Riverside
Dec 2015
#44
Well, in that instance the Davidians were barricaded and firing on law enforcement
951-Riverside
Dec 2015
#112
"And none of this prevents you from immigrating to a country with lax gun laws"
EX500rider
Dec 2015
#206
It's a fairly obvious point that outlawing guns in those countries did nothing..
EX500rider
Dec 2015
#219
Ban the sale & distribution of bullets and the means to make bullets.
The_Casual_Observer
Dec 2015
#64
LOL that statement alone shows just how poorly you understand.......
virginia mountainman
Dec 2015
#214
Oh boy, here we go again. Red States vs. Blue States. I grew up in the country where a .22 was a
libdem4life
Dec 2015
#71
Oooookidokey then, you draw up laws to bring about excuses to kill your enemy.
sibelian
Dec 2015
#96
To be perfectly honest, I think they would all give their guns up without a fight.
Oneironaut
Dec 2015
#89
After Sandy Hook Connecticut instituted some pretty strick new gun laws. Google what the
Waldorf
Dec 2015
#116
We will never have gun confiscation in the US. At least not in our lifetime.
hollowdweller
Dec 2015
#90
And I very seriously doubt that you've EVER put yourself in danger in your life.
GGJohn
Dec 2015
#153
Your refusal to answer the question, then accuse me of lying, then running away
GGJohn
Dec 2015
#155
Do you support putting the earliest efforts at confiscation in African American communities?
FrodosPet
Dec 2015
#242
We are in trouble because millions sit around in paranoia, waiting for a self-fufilling prophecy
Rex
Dec 2015
#97
how about controlling powder? ormarkers in it? if fertilizer has that, and oc drugs are regulated...
JanMichael
Dec 2015
#107
If cops started kicking down the doors of lawful Americans looking for firearms, (won't ever happen)
GGJohn
Dec 2015
#130
Very interesting that you chose to say "lawful Americans" not "lawful firearms"
951-Riverside
Dec 2015
#132
The only thing you have left is threatening people with violence over and over and over again
951-Riverside
Dec 2015
#135
I myself have never visited violence on another human since I retired from the Army,
GGJohn
Dec 2015
#136
"In the last 43 years, more Americans have been shot by another American...
EX500rider
Dec 2015
#216
When someone (you in this case) says "Americans who killed OTHER Americans"...
EX500rider
Dec 2015
#259
So if you say "I drive other American's cars" you mean you drive your own car?
EX500rider
Dec 2015
#269
What in the world leads you to believe that the military will fire on Americans?
GGJohn
Dec 2015
#169
Why not? Cops do it all the time. Hey, your precious 2nd is a lot older than 60 years.
Photographer
Dec 2015
#174
Again, what makes you think that cops are going to enforce a ban and confiscation?
GGJohn
Dec 2015
#175
If it's the law, they will enforce it. If you think they won't you live in a dream world
Photographer
Dec 2015
#177
I have been in both the military and law enforcement- neither body would do the confiscation
Lee-Lee
Dec 2015
#184
Cops need another economic asset instead of "the marijuana." They can looks for bullets and
lonestarnot
Dec 2015
#222
Restrict new production, restrict ammo, stop public toting, restrict shooting ranges, etc. Let them
Hoyt
Dec 2015
#212
Of course they would resist and if it takes violence to confiscate their guns so be it.
bowens43
Dec 2015
#227
Actually, I think the first step would be to ban all imports and exports.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Dec 2015
#228