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agnostic102

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12. in my humble oponion

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 10:57 PM

Dec 2015

dear hiiguy,

If you read the koran itself. Believe it or not its not that much more harsh then the old testoment. Its the HADITHS in islam that really bring out the harshness within islam. Hadiths really deserve there own thread and discussion as its to much to type here. but couple of explanations. Please read my other reply that has some explanation of islam and my thoughts on it. The other things i will point out is age.

Islam is about 500 years younger then christianity and thousands of years younger then jews. if you notice there are so many secular and atheist jews. Many Christians are becoming secular as well. its my beliefs that as time goes by followers of religion start chilling out a bit. NOT ALL OF THEM but most of them. islam hasnt that time yet. in a 100 years of modernity. I will bet you will find just as many muslims who are secure as christians now days. Me for example =) but many more will follow.

The question is how many will have to die for religion before then =(

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Ex-muslim Here to answer any questions you might have [View all] agnostic102 Dec 2015 OP

I don't have any specific questions but thank you for starting what is hopefully a good thread. nt JanMichael Dec 2015 #1

Agreed. Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2015 #27

Experiences are what help to shape us but they can never define us..than you for sharing AuntPatsy Dec 2015 #2

To use your words "how we can help to stop" the "modern day terrorism"? Jarqui Dec 2015 #3

Please agnostic102 Dec 2015 #11

Thank very much for your answer Jarqui Dec 2015 #20

Access and technology exboyfil Dec 2015 #35

In terms of ISIS/al qaeda/martydom terrorism Jarqui Dec 2015 #57

your english is great and your efforts here long overdue and welcome roguevalley Dec 2015 #23

First, let me thank you for taking the time to provide this information. Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2015 #46

Thank you for explaining that point Tab Dec 2015 #71

Welcome to DU Change has come Dec 2015 #4

As an ex-Catholic I say: welcome, brother! Xipe Totec Dec 2015 #5

fist bump! agnostic102 Dec 2015 #14

Just leave the space out of ":fistbump:" Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2015 #48

.. :fistbump: Cha Dec 2015 #50

Another ex-Catholic here. Welcome & thanks for offering your insight. We desperately need it! southerncrone Dec 2015 #29

Welcome to DU, this will be quite interesting. I am glad you are here, getting out of Iran uppityperson Dec 2015 #6

Regarding apple pie... A HERETIC I AM Dec 2015 #7

Crust... Liberal Jesus Freak Dec 2015 #26

Crumble of course Yorktown Dec 2015 #43

HEATHEN!! A HERETIC I AM Dec 2015 #55

This is EXACTLY the kind of discussion most needed here. hifiguy Dec 2015 #8

in my humble oponion agnostic102 Dec 2015 #12

Thank you for a thoughtful and informative response hifiguy Dec 2015 #18

It's not very similar to the old testament and the Torah. JRLeft Dec 2015 #61

In regarding the Hadiths, I've heard of Quran-alone Muslims. white_wolf Dec 2015 #63

No because Sunni hadiths and Shia hadiths are very conservative, JRLeft Dec 2015 #70

Your words do not offer much encouragement ... kentuck Dec 2015 #72

It's easy for Christians to separate the New Testament TexasMommaWithAHat Dec 2015 #16

But the OT is filled with calls to violence oberliner Dec 2015 #56

Very true. TexasMommaWithAHat Dec 2015 #58

Islam takes their book literally Go Vols Dec 2015 #9

Jesus' teaching in the New Testament is just good advice and love for our fellow human beings. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #39

Peace brother Go Vols Dec 2015 #41

? We have plenty of Christians who take the Bible literally. They are called "fundamentalists" Hekate Dec 2015 #51

my Daddy invites me to church Go Vols Dec 2015 #54

Hello. bigwillq Dec 2015 #10

Great thread. My question: can Islam be reformed into something non-violent? Yorktown Dec 2015 #13

well agnostic102 Dec 2015 #17

I agree: all abrahamic texts are violent. But only global Islam take them literally. Yorktown Dec 2015 #22

I read all of the time that ISIS has nothing to do with Islam B2G Dec 2015 #15

well agnostic102 Dec 2015 #19

As a born and baptized ex-Catholic, I agree with you. ScreamingMeemie Dec 2015 #21

Please explain the concept of jihad Jack Rabbit Dec 2015 #24

Let agnostic102 correct me if I'm wrong, but it's because of the texts. Yorktown Dec 2015 #44

Where did they get the idea that the masses would be impressed by terrorism and follow them? Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #25

what was life like under the Shah ? JI7 Dec 2015 #28

why does Islam seem to play a stronger role in Muslim countries than Christianity JI7 Dec 2015 #30

Thank you for posting! Lifelong Protester Dec 2015 #31

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #32

Thank you for this very informative thread. Blue_In_AK Dec 2015 #33

I'd like to know what the attraction is? Yupster Dec 2015 #34

I am Catholic and I welcome you. 840high Dec 2015 #36

its funny, just tonight I was thinking that yuiyoshida Dec 2015 #37

i envy agnostic102 Dec 2015 #47

I totally understand... yuiyoshida Dec 2015 #53

Very enlightening response. kentuck Dec 2015 #73

Does anybody in the Middle East moondust Dec 2015 #38

The OP mentinos the Bahias. I have known some very tolerant Bahais. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #40

I was interested in the Baha'i Faith many years ago KamaAina Dec 2015 #79

Welcome to DU and thank you... LittleGirl Dec 2015 #42

please agnostic102 Dec 2015 #49

I have not yet read a single word catnhatnh Dec 2015 #45

It's the *funding* that makes the difference. CJCRANE Dec 2015 #52

Hello agnosti102... thank you very much for posting this. sibelian Dec 2015 #59

I'm too an ex-muslim and now an atheist. JRLeft Dec 2015 #60

Hey Jr agnostic102 Dec 2015 #62

Will Sunni Wahabis always have a problem adapting to the western culture? kentuck Dec 2015 #64

Thanks or this thread treestar Dec 2015 #65

Thank you. smirkymonkey Dec 2015 #66

My doctor (a general practitioner) seems to have a similar Snobblevitch Dec 2015 #67

All religions served their purposes thousands of years ago. It's over now. lindysalsagal Dec 2015 #68

Kicking a very important thread FrodosPet Dec 2015 #69

Hey Frodos agnostic102 Dec 2015 #74

Are non-Muslims allowed to attend worship at a Mosque? clarice Dec 2015 #75

Coke or Pepsi? underpants Dec 2015 #76

Many thanks for posting Maeve Dec 2015 #77

sorry agnostic102 Dec 2015 #78

Why are dogs considered unclean in Islam? KamaAina Dec 2015 #80

Kama agnostic102 Dec 2015 #81