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yuiyoshida

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53. I totally understand...
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 02:23 AM
Dec 2015

A few years ago, I was going to school at the University of California at Berkeley. I was taking Asian studies when in my reading came upon a curious thing. It seemed that at one time when Buddhism came to Japan, there were some great major difficulties, because Shinto was already established and born in Japan. Eventually some wise monk, thought it would be best if the two Religions merged, so it turned out that Buddhism would have to do with what happens after death, while Shinto took on what happens in Birth and Life... this made both factions happy, because both of their Religions were now acceptable.

Then the West showed up and with it the Christian Religion. At first the Portuguese monks only seemed to have an interest in trade, with Japan, but soon the Missionaries came, which was intolerable for the SHOGUN, who ran Japan at the time. The Shogun eventually became fed up with this new religion, because though it, he seemed to be losing power, and people were starting to think that they would not obey the Shogun, so the Shogun decided, that's it, were closing Japan off to the WEST and all Christians were to leave Japan or die.

Well, needless to say many were killed, some crucified like their own Christ, and others beheaded by the Samurai who were loyal to the shogun. Those who were left, had to hide, and Christianity went underground...but because Japan is influenced by superstition, no one wanted to convert to this new religion. Its why there are less than .1% Christians living in Japan today, the majority of the population is Buddhist-Shinto. The rest are simply Atheists.

Its also the reason there are far less Muslims in Japan, as Japan has made the religion unwelcomed. (referring to this: http://www.democraticunderground.com/12502927)

The text books that I read went into great detail telling what was done to Christians back then who were discovered after the Shogun's ruling. When I was living in Utah for a while, I would often overhear missionaries being frustrated about going to Japan. Many of them hated to go because they simply could not convert anyone. Many Japanese walked away from anyone who was trying to convert them to this Religion.

And yet, Japan still has Meri Kurisumasu. Why? Its not celebrated as a Religious holiday in Japan, but as a Romantic holiday, like Valentines day here in the states. Yes there are lots of evergreens lit up with lights, and presents under the tree. There are Christmas songs but most of those are the Non Religious kind. Christmas in Japan is a holiday for lovers; people will buy a nice white vanilla icing cake with strawberries and give it to their loved ones. But you won't see anyone celebrating Christmas in the ways we do here in the west, by those going to High Mass at midnight, or filling churches. Again, superstitious Japanese will not go against their natural grain. People work on Christmas, in Japan. The major holiday comes later at New Years. That is a huge holiday in Japan.

The world is filled with so many wonderful mysteries.

I don't have any specific questions but thank you for starting what is hopefully a good thread. nt JanMichael Dec 2015 #1
Agreed. Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2015 #27
Experiences are what help to shape us but they can never define us..than you for sharing AuntPatsy Dec 2015 #2
To use your words "how we can help to stop" the "modern day terrorism"? Jarqui Dec 2015 #3
Please agnostic102 Dec 2015 #11
Thank very much for your answer Jarqui Dec 2015 #20
Access and technology exboyfil Dec 2015 #35
In terms of ISIS/al qaeda/martydom terrorism Jarqui Dec 2015 #57
your english is great and your efforts here long overdue and welcome roguevalley Dec 2015 #23
First, let me thank you for taking the time to provide this information. Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2015 #46
Thank you for explaining that point Tab Dec 2015 #71
Welcome to DU Change has come Dec 2015 #4
As an ex-Catholic I say: welcome, brother! Xipe Totec Dec 2015 #5
fist bump! agnostic102 Dec 2015 #14
Just leave the space out of ":fistbump:" Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2015 #48
.. :fistbump: Cha Dec 2015 #50
Another ex-Catholic here. Welcome & thanks for offering your insight. We desperately need it! southerncrone Dec 2015 #29
Welcome to DU, this will be quite interesting. I am glad you are here, getting out of Iran uppityperson Dec 2015 #6
Regarding apple pie... A HERETIC I AM Dec 2015 #7
Crust... Liberal Jesus Freak Dec 2015 #26
Crumble of course Yorktown Dec 2015 #43
HEATHEN!! A HERETIC I AM Dec 2015 #55
This is EXACTLY the kind of discussion most needed here. hifiguy Dec 2015 #8
in my humble oponion agnostic102 Dec 2015 #12
Thank you for a thoughtful and informative response hifiguy Dec 2015 #18
It's not very similar to the old testament and the Torah. JRLeft Dec 2015 #61
In regarding the Hadiths, I've heard of Quran-alone Muslims. white_wolf Dec 2015 #63
No because Sunni hadiths and Shia hadiths are very conservative, JRLeft Dec 2015 #70
Your words do not offer much encouragement ... kentuck Dec 2015 #72
It's easy for Christians to separate the New Testament TexasMommaWithAHat Dec 2015 #16
But the OT is filled with calls to violence oberliner Dec 2015 #56
Very true. TexasMommaWithAHat Dec 2015 #58
Islam takes their book literally Go Vols Dec 2015 #9
Jesus' teaching in the New Testament is just good advice and love for our fellow human beings. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #39
Peace brother Go Vols Dec 2015 #41
? We have plenty of Christians who take the Bible literally. They are called "fundamentalists" Hekate Dec 2015 #51
my Daddy invites me to church Go Vols Dec 2015 #54
Hello. bigwillq Dec 2015 #10
Great thread. My question: can Islam be reformed into something non-violent? Yorktown Dec 2015 #13
well agnostic102 Dec 2015 #17
I agree: all abrahamic texts are violent. But only global Islam take them literally. Yorktown Dec 2015 #22
I read all of the time that ISIS has nothing to do with Islam B2G Dec 2015 #15
well agnostic102 Dec 2015 #19
As a born and baptized ex-Catholic, I agree with you. ScreamingMeemie Dec 2015 #21
Please explain the concept of jihad Jack Rabbit Dec 2015 #24
Let agnostic102 correct me if I'm wrong, but it's because of the texts. Yorktown Dec 2015 #44
Where did they get the idea that the masses would be impressed by terrorism and follow them? Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #25
what was life like under the Shah ? JI7 Dec 2015 #28
why does Islam seem to play a stronger role in Muslim countries than Christianity JI7 Dec 2015 #30
Thank you for posting! Lifelong Protester Dec 2015 #31
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #32
Thank you for this very informative thread. Blue_In_AK Dec 2015 #33
I'd like to know what the attraction is? Yupster Dec 2015 #34
I am Catholic and I welcome you. 840high Dec 2015 #36
its funny, just tonight I was thinking that yuiyoshida Dec 2015 #37
i envy agnostic102 Dec 2015 #47
I totally understand... yuiyoshida Dec 2015 #53
Very enlightening response. kentuck Dec 2015 #73
Does anybody in the Middle East moondust Dec 2015 #38
The OP mentinos the Bahias. I have known some very tolerant Bahais. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #40
I was interested in the Baha'i Faith many years ago KamaAina Dec 2015 #79
Welcome to DU and thank you... LittleGirl Dec 2015 #42
please agnostic102 Dec 2015 #49
I have not yet read a single word catnhatnh Dec 2015 #45
It's the *funding* that makes the difference. CJCRANE Dec 2015 #52
Hello agnosti102... thank you very much for posting this. sibelian Dec 2015 #59
I'm too an ex-muslim and now an atheist. JRLeft Dec 2015 #60
Hey Jr agnostic102 Dec 2015 #62
Will Sunni Wahabis always have a problem adapting to the western culture? kentuck Dec 2015 #64
Thanks or this thread treestar Dec 2015 #65
Thank you. smirkymonkey Dec 2015 #66
My doctor (a general practitioner) seems to have a similar Snobblevitch Dec 2015 #67
All religions served their purposes thousands of years ago. It's over now. lindysalsagal Dec 2015 #68
Kicking a very important thread FrodosPet Dec 2015 #69
Hey Frodos agnostic102 Dec 2015 #74
Are non-Muslims allowed to attend worship at a Mosque? clarice Dec 2015 #75
Coke or Pepsi? underpants Dec 2015 #76
Many thanks for posting Maeve Dec 2015 #77
sorry agnostic102 Dec 2015 #78
Why are dogs considered unclean in Islam? KamaAina Dec 2015 #80
Kama agnostic102 Dec 2015 #81
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