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Response to ManyShadesOf (Reply #5)

Thu May 31, 2012, 08:29 PM

8. Thanks, again.

Since I was young -- which was a long, long time ago -- I thought that people benefitted from both talking and doing. That carried over into my work in human services. When I worked with "at risk youth," I found that getting a group together to do something like restoring a pioneer cemetery was often far more effective than sitting behind a desk, and talking to them for an hour. And I did similar things later, working with adults. Human beings frequently are better able to process information, and to express themselves, while "doing" something like that.

Years ago, in the town of Dryden, NY, a freak kidnapped two high school girls, raped and tortured them, then disposed of them with a wood-chipper; he spread the remains through a few miles of corn fields. A NYS Trooper who I was acquainted with through school sports was one of the guys picked to watch where the crows were landing in those fields. Though I only knew him casually, I could see that this had taken a toll on him.

We talked about it quite a bit. His job didn't offer individual or group processing of this type of horrorable experience. That's just way wrong. Eventually, he and the other troopers wanted to put up a monument to the girls, on the state land where they were murdered. But the NYS Department of Environmental Conservation ruled that they couldn't.

In one of the interviews I did with Onondaga Chief Paul Waterman, we discussed this. It is important for people to process painful experiences, and to make monuments .... which in this case could honor not only those poor girls, but the people who endured a terrible couple days work, in gathering their remains.

We've made monuments in the forests for thousands of years. Safe to say it is part of a global behavior, for good reason. This culture has cut itself off from these things, in an unhealthy way.

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