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Jarqui

(10,122 posts)
29. Bureaucracy of the US system
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 02:01 PM
Jan 2016
http://obamacarefacts.com/single-payer/
The United States has arguably one of the most bureaucratic health care systems in the world. Over 31% of every health care dollar goes to paperwork, overhead, CEO salaries, profits, etc. Because the U.S. does not have a unified system that serves everyone, and instead has thousands of different insurance plans, each with its own marketing, paperwork, enrollment, premiums, and rules and regulations, our insurance system is both extremely complex and fragmented.

In America, Medicare operates with just 3% overhead, compared to 15% to 25% overhead at a typical HMO. Provincial single-payer plans in Canada have an overhead of about 1%.


The economic fat in the present healthcare is a BIG problem. Single payer is THE BEST at getting costs under control.

UK is single payer and so is Australia (not on the chart).

Americans could still overpay their doctors, nurses, etc and just reduce on "paperwork, overhead, CEO salaries, profits, etc"

If Americans don't like Bernie's approach (where he's trying to also fix income inequality), imagine reducing "paperwork, overhead, CEO salaries, profits, etc" and with it eliminate 28-30% of your healthcare premiums and deductible.

It's a no brainer. And when you do that, employing people is cheaper to help keep American jobs. American products cost less to make, etc. Americans have more money to spend that helps the economy. It's win, win, win and the only real losers are the health insurance companies and CEOs

If America spends about $1 trilllion on private healthcare, 30% is $300 billion less per year. Again, the only losers are the big heath insurance companies and CEOs
ACA is the best we could hope for! KG Jan 2016 #1
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Its a little thing called voting. liberalnarb Jan 2016 #5
So give up! Doctor_J Jan 2016 #9
Time to get real......pure fantasy...NO WE CAN'T. SammyWinstonJack Jan 2016 #15
The subject was cost. Springslips Jan 2016 #32
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because American exceptionalism.... mike_c Jan 2016 #3
+1 daleanime Jan 2016 #16
i notice no one ever says questionseverything Jan 2016 #6
Pre-cisely! n/t ljm2002 Jan 2016 #10
Or "That Corporate Welfare". Or "That Corporate Bailout". HughBeaumont Jan 2016 #33
They mean it will cost the insurance and drug companies too much Doctor_J Jan 2016 #7
You said it! burrowowl Jan 2016 #20
at implementation, you asked a policy question. nadinbrzezinski Jan 2016 #8
Nobody spends more for less, but we need our current system because ... mhatrw Jan 2016 #11
This is what happens when ZX86 Jan 2016 #12
+1000 mountain grammy Jan 2016 #13
Stockholm Syndrome AgingAmerican Jan 2016 #18
Nobody can explain how a for profit system costs less than one run at cost.... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #14
These are the wealthiest times in human history. Octafish Jan 2016 #17
Reporters always ask How You Gonna Pay for healthcare and very rarely about bloated military budget Overseas Jan 2016 #34
The blood sucker bankers, AKA for-profit health insur co's ErikJ Jan 2016 #19
It would cost shareholders too much. raouldukelives Jan 2016 #21
Most of those aren't single payer; the only single payer system has above-average costs Recursion Jan 2016 #22
I do not think it would cost too much, but.... Adrahil Jan 2016 #23
What about "wait times" ? rickford66 Jan 2016 #24
I have a question no one has yet to answer: Pathwalker Jan 2016 #25
Single payer would pay all costs SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2016 #27
Promise? Pathwalker Jan 2016 #28
When they say it would cost too much- notadmblnd Jan 2016 #26
Bureaucracy of the US system Jarqui Jan 2016 #29
it will cost Wall Street and the insurance companies too much in lost profit tk2kewl Jan 2016 #30
Here's something to consider on Hillary's position with single payer Jarqui Jan 2016 #31
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