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what? you don't want christian idolatry for every kid every morning? ummm nt msongs Jan 2016 #1
Where does the Pledge mention Christianity? Nye Bevan Jan 2016 #8
Only Jews and Christians would use the word God. jeff47 Jan 2016 #11
The phrase was inserted by Christian fanatics... JackRiddler Jan 2016 #14
You should read into why the pledge has under god now nadinbrzezinski Jan 2016 #58
When saying the Pledge I have never once said DURHAM D Jan 2016 #2
I have never once said the Pledge since I was 10 or so. JackRiddler Jan 2016 #3
Not a big fan of mandatory loyalty oaths. Kelvin Mace Jan 2016 #4
That's good, because the Pledge of Allegiance is not mandatory branford Jan 2016 #19
Truth. ShrimpPoboy Jan 2016 #36
My reference context Kelvin Mace Jan 2016 #48
Freedom of religion and speech is not protection against social pressures and exclusion. branford Jan 2016 #50
True, but that hasn't stopped them from constantly Kelvin Mace Jan 2016 #56
You obviously have never been to some real small town nadinbrzezinski Jan 2016 #60
Or New York City, for that matter. JackRiddler Feb 2016 #68
Media boxes do not let you get out nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #69
I was 14 when god got injected into the PoA OxQQme Jan 2016 #5
But Elvis would probably have approved of "Under God" SusanCalvin Jan 2016 #10
Great post. Civics and ethics... no longer taught. Nt. Juicy_Bellows Jan 2016 #6
I taught first grade for 17 years and rarely had the kids recite it. roody Jan 2016 #7
Good for you! JackRiddler Jan 2016 #12
Well, I was about to knee-jerk disagree, SusanCalvin Jan 2016 #9
We have friends from England, who have been in the US... 3catwoman3 Jan 2016 #13
I am also from the UK VMA131Marine Jan 2016 #30
I'm old enough to remember when the Under God SheilaT Jan 2016 #15
I have literally run out of rooms... JackRiddler Jan 2016 #16
At least that has never happened to me. SheilaT Jan 2016 #17
Replace the word 'flag' with 'US Constitution' gyroscope Jan 2016 #18
You want children "pledging" to a constitution? JackRiddler Jan 2016 #22
Do you also object to the Oath of Office truebluegreen Jan 2016 #45
You don't see a difference? JackRiddler Jan 2016 #57
Its a lot better than a flag gyroscope Jan 2016 #29
I have posted this story before, but it is very relevant to this OP DFW Jan 2016 #20
I spread the peaches! JackRiddler Jan 2016 #25
She was reluctant to ask the American kids in her class DFW Jan 2016 #43
Kids are awesome. ShrimpPoboy Jan 2016 #35
That is great nadinbrzezinski Jan 2016 #61
It showed how seriously our kids take it these days DFW Feb 2016 #70
"Patriotism is the passion of fools and the most foolish of passions." Arthur Schopenhauer Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2016 #21
The original version from 1892 did not have "Under god" in it. hobbit709 Jan 2016 #23
Yeah I know. JackRiddler Jan 2016 #24
Do they say it at your kids school? ileus Jan 2016 #26
At the International School in Berlin, Germany? No, they didn't. JackRiddler Jan 2016 #42
Why have nationalism at all then? Why have a nation? frizzled Jan 2016 #27
Maybe eventually it will entirely unravel. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jan 2016 #28
Reductio ad absurdum. JackRiddler Jan 2016 #41
Fallacy frizzled Jan 2016 #46
Historically, modern nation-states... JackRiddler Jan 2016 #47
Realistically.... Smarmie Doofus Jan 2016 #31
I kind of like it JustAnotherGen Jan 2016 #32
Maybe substitute, under, with, oh my. Alkene Jan 2016 #33
Done! geomon666 Jan 2016 #34
When I was a kid (the early 60s) I refused to recite ghostsinthemachine Jan 2016 #37
I have had to cite this when told I MUST say the pledge at school: Gabi Hayes Jan 2016 #39
THANK YOU. JackRiddler Jan 2016 #59
thank you for this thread. It's something that Gabi Hayes Jan 2016 #65
how we say it at my school Gabi Hayes Jan 2016 #38
omg.. yuiyoshida Jan 2016 #44
My mom was Jehovah's Witness, and then Quaker. hunter Jan 2016 #40
I'd rather have them sing pokerfan Jan 2016 #49
This Music Teacher agrees! AwakeAtLast Jan 2016 #52
I agree awoke_in_2003 Jan 2016 #51
Always seemed like a Loyalty Oath to me Stargleamer Jan 2016 #53
Do we really need this fight? bklyncowgirl Jan 2016 #54
Do you think everything relates to a narrow definition of 'us'? JackRiddler Jan 2016 #55
I'm talking about liberals in general and to correct your impression I'm a Sanders supporter. bklyncowgirl Jan 2016 #63
What's the problem? I'm some guy talking on an Internet board. JackRiddler Feb 2016 #67
In the face of the important things that need to be done this is, as I said before, rather silly bklyncowgirl Feb 2016 #71
Yep. I despise both. Arugula Latte Jan 2016 #62
Are his lawyers demanding royalties because He's broke again? Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2016 #64
I remember burrowowl Jan 2016 #66
Congress is voting on taking it out? B Calm Feb 2016 #72
My school didn't require the daily recitation of the pledge Orrex Feb 2016 #73
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