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Jim Beard

(2,535 posts)
64. Theres a lot of people posting here that need to help the Bundy's
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 10:11 PM
Feb 2016

They all have a very deep fear of the government.

Exactly! They have been taking advantage of 9-11 to use terrorists avebury Feb 2016 #1
The cell phone did not belong to the terrroists but to the county vinny9698 Feb 2016 #45
because the terrorist was using it with an expectation of privacy 6chars Feb 2016 #81
To many clueless people do not understand this. Nt Logical Feb 2016 #2
Too LannyDeVaney Feb 2016 #11
lol Glassunion Feb 2016 #29
two? Demonaut Feb 2016 #73
All my texts telling my wife where I dropped off the car! All my Instagrams of craft cocktails! alcibiades_mystery Feb 2016 #3
Why do you care if you have nothing to hide? TipTok Feb 2016 #23
Amazing, isn't it? Especially cuz these "tools to keep us safe" end up being used for the drug war Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #80
Hyperbole much? Do they 'get into' your bank & financial records? Do they tap your phone? randome Feb 2016 #4
With a person's phone, they can get into your bank, financial and health records. X_Digger Feb 2016 #19
Sigh.....they can get your bank records without a warrant, now. msanthrope Feb 2016 #27
Wait until someone here has the state comptroller go after them. nt Rex Feb 2016 #58
You Better Believe It!!! nt msanthrope Feb 2016 #59
And my fingerprint. Kittycat Feb 2016 #52
That was your choice to make your private information Jim Beard Feb 2016 #60
And how long before the hackers get the code to Ilsa Feb 2016 #82
Then the FBI should get right on that Nevernose Feb 2016 #86
We know the NSA fed spy data on US Citizens to the DEA to facilitate arrests of drug users. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #97
As as they need a warrant, signed by a judge, for each and every instance... Nitram Feb 2016 #5
When you open a backdoor for law enforcement to get in.... davidn3600 Feb 2016 #7
My credit card hsa been stolen a number of times. Nitram Feb 2016 #8
The request from the FBI isn't for a widespread back door mythology Feb 2016 #36
Apple wants to be able to compete in selling its products with similar products that can or could JDPriestly Feb 2016 #101
What can they do to Apple? Atman Feb 2016 #6
The feds will back down... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2016 #10
Putting aside for a moment whether the FBI would abuse this (I believe the answer is yes) IDemo Feb 2016 #9
On this one I wish they could get into that phone flamingdem Feb 2016 #12
"Those who would give up liberty...." GoneOffShore Feb 2016 #14
As Bernie said tonight there's a middle way flamingdem Feb 2016 #15
So you don't worry because you believe YOU are safe? True Earthling Feb 2016 #25
I don't worry, because I believe that I am safe, that you are safe, and that the people you don't Glassunion Feb 2016 #30
Like the people in San Bernadino were safe? True Earthling Feb 2016 #32
Pfft. Who cares? They lived in San Bernardino. randome Feb 2016 #34
No they were not. Not on that day. Glassunion Feb 2016 #35
The risk of attack is low not because terrorists aren't trying... True Earthling Feb 2016 #37
The rougue attack will always be a possibility. Glassunion Feb 2016 #40
I would not call their approach a "back door" that can be unlocked with a universal key True Earthling Feb 2016 #43
I don't really fear being killed or injured ... Whiskeytide Feb 2016 #41
Bingo Glassunion Feb 2016 #42
I think this is reasonable alarimer Feb 2016 #51
There is a difference between one or two TexasMommaWithAHat Feb 2016 #54
Giving up liberty for security is never a good idea. GoneOffShore Feb 2016 #88
Those who would give up a little liberty for the illusion of security deserve neither. n/t X_Digger Feb 2016 #20
Any calls they made to "others" is already known by phone records. LiberalArkie Feb 2016 #28
What about potential maps and notes made on the phone that did not go through an ISP? randome Feb 2016 #33
this is the part i do not get questionseverything Feb 2016 #53
Apple offered to talk about it under a secret court order, the FBI refused and went public LiberalArkie Feb 2016 #55
i understand the illegal backdoor request questionseverything Feb 2016 #56
They might get a picture of their kid or something like that. but the main thing is to LiberalArkie Feb 2016 #57
Yeah, and just like the patriot act, we can trust them that they only want this special power to go Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #63
1000% agree FD ! Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2016 #87
Too right. And the "If you've done nothing wrong, you've got nothing to hide" folks GoneOffShore Feb 2016 #13
They'll find out how boring I really am. Kaleva Feb 2016 #16
Then I'm sure you wouldn't mind having a government agent watch you take a piss. backscatter712 Feb 2016 #39
I had to put up with that for years while in the Navy Kaleva Feb 2016 #49
From what I read, the feds want to get data from a phone they have in their custody GummyBearz Feb 2016 #17
Yep. I didn't understand the issue at first because of Ilsa Feb 2016 #18
I agree fearmongering is not the way to persuade or influence people's minds..however... True Earthling Feb 2016 #21
They aren't "terrorists"... TipTok Feb 2016 #22
Yet some here think Loretta Lynch will be a great SCOTUS justice CommonSenseDemocrat Feb 2016 #24
No they won't!! RufusTFirefly Feb 2016 #26
Just like they're pouring over your financial records right now. randome Feb 2016 #31
It is impossible to make a backdoor that only the Good Guys can use. backscatter712 Feb 2016 #38
The cell phone did not belong to the terrroists but to the county vinny9698 Feb 2016 #44
The biggest problem is apple can not decrypt it Travis_0004 Feb 2016 #84
They can get into your physical home. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #46
A large corporation like Apple no doubt has a large legal team that includes developers. randome Feb 2016 #47
I don't disagree with anything you've said but Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #48
Apple was warned early on that this would create law enforcement and security issues. randome Feb 2016 #85
You make it sound as if they broke some law. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #89
No, even a massive corporation like Apple shouldn't have to kowtow to any government. randome Feb 2016 #90
A warrant applies to things that exist. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #105
odd that a pharmacist who refuses to fill a BC prescription has the right of "conscience" to refuse Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #62
I would submit both have an ironclad right to refuse being forced into labor. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #65
One difference is, pharmacists are licensed by the state. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #66
All it would take would be for the government to invent a licensing law for coders and your Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #68
I suppose. But there isnt one now. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #69
Considering some states demand hairdressers be licensed I can't see Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #70
Well I do think pharmacies are a state-regulated business for a reason. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #71
I'm all for OTC birth control but I can't support "state license = state agent." Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #106
Yes. They are mad Apple won't comply alarimer Feb 2016 #50
They ask for the powers to "fight terror" and then use them to arrest pot smokers. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #61
Theres a lot of people posting here that need to help the Bundy's Jim Beard Feb 2016 #64
Okay, justify this. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #67
Did you thank Snowden for leaking all that information Jim Beard Feb 2016 #93
And Trump agrees with you. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #96
then don't put shit that might incriminate you in your phone Demonaut Feb 2016 #72
Right, all those people sitting in prison for smoking pot should have known better. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #74
I see your point...the data collected by the NSA was derived from????? Demonaut Feb 2016 #75
The point of the article is that the blanket NSA surveillance information- itself illegal Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #78
It's about both. Smarmie Doofus Feb 2016 #76
Then pass a law forbidding them from manfacturing and selling Jim Beard Feb 2016 #77
Yeah, everyone in silicon vally is a hillbilly rancher. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #79
We have a system in this country Jim Beard Feb 2016 #91
You seem tense. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #92
I probably am a little tense, accept my apology for that however Jim Beard Feb 2016 #100
bottom line in the context of the FBI, etc, they have given very little reason for people to trust Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #104
Rule #1. Never put anything on your phone or computer that you don't want known. hobbit709 Feb 2016 #83
If the government has a valid warrant it has a right to the content of your encrypted phone Sam_Fields Feb 2016 #94
They have the phone Bradical79 Feb 2016 #103
I seriously doubt they will ever be interested in mine treestar Feb 2016 #95
Hopefully they will answer my voicemails Major Nikon Feb 2016 #98
Apple's got your back, yeah right ! Angel Martin Feb 2016 #99
Definitely kicking this! d_legendary1 Feb 2016 #102
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