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aikoaiko

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20. I think the answer is no, because of the hypothetical nature of the thing you wish to measure
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 11:20 PM
Feb 2016

Remembering is behavior and transient. You won't be able to scan a brain and see a memory any more than you can scan leg muscles to see how many steps you took that day. That information is not stored that way.

Even you could "see" the internal talking it would be equivalent to speaking out loud and protected.

And does the cop who reads the madman's mental printout himself go crazy? Recursion Feb 2016 #1
No, such would make a mockery of the fifth tkmorris Feb 2016 #2
Let's be clear about the Fifth jberryhill Feb 2016 #3
I'm not sure your comparison works here. MindPilot Feb 2016 #45
I don't see such a technology ever being capable of meeting the standards of admissable evidence. MohRokTah Feb 2016 #4
Challenging the assumption is out of bounds jberryhill Feb 2016 #7
Then the entire discussion is pointless. MohRokTah Feb 2016 #11
It is simpler, and also pseudoscience jberryhill Feb 2016 #14
And that's why any technology that allegedly coulld translate electromagnetic brain activity,... MohRokTah Feb 2016 #17
You must be a joy to watch Sci Fi movies with jberryhill Feb 2016 #18
I adore sci fi. MohRokTah Feb 2016 #19
Great moments in science history... jberryhill Feb 2016 #23
... GummyBearz Feb 2016 #51
Incidentally jberryhill Feb 2016 #16
While each person's brain is unique in form, but not in how they store information... Humanist_Activist Feb 2016 #38
Here is an interesting article from Scientific American on exboyfil Feb 2016 #56
There is a concern that memories aren't "stored" so much as reconstructed every time we recall... Humanist_Activist Feb 2016 #60
In addition to the self-incrimination problem... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2016 #71
I think they'd use the Open Fields Doctrine to justify warrantless brain scans jmowreader Feb 2016 #5
That's what I'm thinking jberryhill Feb 2016 #8
Well, it won't work with me! tularetom Feb 2016 #52
It wouldn't work on him without the hat jberryhill Feb 2016 #53
Only to help catch our nation's millions of dangerous marijuana addicts Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #6
I'm pretty sure that Roger Zelazny or Larry Niven have explored that idea. FSogol Feb 2016 #9
If you recall a title Lmk jberryhill Feb 2016 #10
I will. n/t FSogol Feb 2016 #12
If the memories were going in rather than out... jmowreader Feb 2016 #25
Alfred Bester malthaussen Feb 2016 #55
No. It shocks the conscience under the 14th, possibly the 8th. msanthrope Feb 2016 #13
That's fine jberryhill Feb 2016 #15
I'm arguing that the most intimate part of us....our minds, is not subject to search. msanthrope Feb 2016 #22
I think the answer is no, because of the hypothetical nature of the thing you wish to measure aikoaiko Feb 2016 #20
"it would be equivalent to speaking out loud and protected" jberryhill Feb 2016 #24
That's what I assumed you were talking about since a warrant was required. aikoaiko Feb 2016 #30
What if I have a warrant to read them? jberryhill Feb 2016 #32
That the thing -- remembering is a mental behavior - not a static thing like a diary or your genome. aikoaiko Feb 2016 #37
Your honor, the results of this device cannot possibly be admissible in this court struggle4progress Feb 2016 #21
You may approach the bench jberryhill Feb 2016 #34
I respectfully ask for reconsideration, based on the long-established doctrine struggle4progress Feb 2016 #68
Are you suggesting eyewitness testimony is inadmissible? jberryhill Feb 2016 #36
Pretty much the plot of last Monday's episode of the X-Files Kilgore Feb 2016 #26
That was seriously the best mushroom trip I ever took... MindPilot Feb 2016 #46
Who knew that Mulder could line dance? Kilgore Feb 2016 #47
They should only peek if they plan to clean out the cobwebs KentuckyWoman Feb 2016 #27
NEVER EVER EVER. nt SusanCalvin Feb 2016 #28
Okay, but how about after that? jberryhill Feb 2016 #33
Well if we do that won't it start a war with the reptilian race that reside in the GOP? Rex Feb 2016 #29
no SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #31
Reading isn't enough - it would have to understand. nt greyl Feb 2016 #35
No way in hell, never, ever, ever. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2016 #39
Just drop the nuance and weasel words and tell me what you think jberryhill Feb 2016 #40
A fascinating posit. I would say that I would only support it in limited circumstances. stevenleser Feb 2016 #41
Legally and from the standpoint of cognitive philosophy and cognitive science it makes as much sense Monk06 Feb 2016 #42
No. n/t Crunchy Frog Feb 2016 #43
You're assuming that witnesses would be required to submit. randome Feb 2016 #44
No. NutmegYankee Feb 2016 #48
That would be self incrimination CommonSenseDemocrat Feb 2016 #49
Like a forced blood sample. DNA sample, or having your fingerprints taken? nt kelly1mm Feb 2016 #54
No, you aren't compelled to testify... jberryhill Feb 2016 #61
A can of worms. malthaussen Feb 2016 #50
If you are a psychopath, do you have a right to your own conscience? jberryhill Feb 2016 #62
Why not? malthaussen Feb 2016 #67
Nope. Iggo Feb 2016 #57
If it is w0nderer Feb 2016 #58
Yeah... jberryhill Feb 2016 #63
misunderstood me w0nderer Feb 2016 #65
State power inevitably seeks to expand its control, and even *without* brain tblue37 Feb 2016 #59
Does it? Or does it ebb and flow? jberryhill Feb 2016 #64
I don't think that such a technology will ever be possible... LeftishBrit Feb 2016 #66
If a court could grant a warrant to scan the brains of dead, known, murderous terrorists Algernon Moncrieff Feb 2016 #69
No, and I'll tell you why: fullautohotdog Feb 2016 #70
But this is also physical evidence jberryhill Feb 2016 #72
Would that be any different than a warrant for Downwinder Feb 2016 #73
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