I can't turn on my tv or go online w/o hearing this windbag... (Reply #68)

In the discussion thread: Do even the most odious among us, including incipient fascists, Trump, have a right to free speech [View all]

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Sat Mar 12, 2016, 09:53 AM

lame54 (34,495 posts)

68. I can't turn on my tv or go online w/o hearing this windbag...

he has more speech than any of us
and thanks to the complying news ratings whores it's usually free

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149 replies	Author	Time	Post
Do even the most odious among us, including incipient fascists, Trump, have a right to free speech [View all]	DemocratSinceBirth	Mar 2016	OP
That's the point of free speech.	TreasonousBastard	Mar 2016	#1
Free speech doesn't extend to yelling fire in a crowded theater or inciting a riot	EmperorHasNoClothes	Mar 2016	#2
That's the holding of Brandenburg V Ohio.	DemocratSinceBirth	Mar 2016	#31
UNCOMFORTABLE??	annabanana	Mar 2016	#60
HE'S TELLING PPL AT HIS RALLIES TO BEAT UP PROTESTORS	MuttLikeMe	Mar 2016	#64
So... Telling his supporters to beat up protesters is merely "making us uncomfortable"?	EmperorHasNoClothes	Mar 2016	#66
Until they do and they did	malaise	Mar 2016	#97
And the point is	rock	Mar 2016	#94
You're seriously wrong about that.	Donald Ian Rankin	Mar 2016	#98
The protestors do and they have a right to not be punched in the face	underpants	Mar 2016	#3
BTW, the person who punched the protestor at the Trump event was arrested. n/t	PoliticAverse	Mar 2016	#6
Yeah I know	underpants	Mar 2016	#14
. . . . eventually, after the clip went viral. . .n/t	annabanana	Mar 2016	#61
Exactly - without the video & intervention from the outside world	noamnety	Mar 2016	#76
yep	marions ghost	Mar 2016	#111
Only because video was released...	awoke_in_2003	Mar 2016	#148
Anti-Trump protestors don't have a right to be violent.	WinkyDink	Mar 2016	#89
Were they in Chicago? They haven't been anywhere else	underpants	Mar 2016	#118
No angels on either side. But without the protestors would there have been any violence?	WinkyDink	Mar 2016	#129
Blaming the victims ?	underpants	Mar 2016	#141
So do protestors.	octoberlib	Mar 2016	#4
+1	daleanime	Mar 2016	#62
I agree, but protestors don't always "peaceably assemble." Anyway, lest we forget:	WinkyDink	Mar 2016	#91
Sure, and others have the right of free speech to disrupt and shout him down.	Chan790	Mar 2016	#5
Actually you don't have a right to disrupt and shout-down someone at their event.	PoliticAverse	Mar 2016	#7
It's not illegal.	Chan790	Mar 2016	#16
Well "civil disobedience" can be effective even if it is illegal. Whether one can be removed...	PoliticAverse	Mar 2016	#29
but they aren't being removed for what they said	treestar	Mar 2016	#18
Would you have the same response if right wingers disrupted a Sanders rally in a similar way?	oberliner	Mar 2016	#17
I would think so	treestar	Mar 2016	#19
Yup.	Chan790	Mar 2016	#20
I think candidates for president should be allowed to give speeches	oberliner	Mar 2016	#25
You're in favor of bushco 'free speech zones', aren't you? Ick.	X_Digger	Mar 2016	#83
I had exactly the same reaction. thank you.	berningman	Mar 2016	#88
No, of course not	oberliner	Mar 2016	#90
Have fun walking it back. We saw it. n/t	X_Digger	Mar 2016	#107
Why are you suddenly so concerned about Trumps right to free speech?	tularetom	Mar 2016	#8
I am defending everybody's right to free speech.	DemocratSinceBirth	Mar 2016	#12
Protesters were exercising their free speech.	HooptieWagon	Mar 2016	#123
I would defend anybody's right to be heard.	DemocratSinceBirth	Mar 2016	#127
And who makes the decision as to who has the right, who does not and	pampango	Mar 2016	#9
He has the right to say all of that	Chemisse	Mar 2016	#11
T-rump will probably become stronger among his supporters as more of hero	Iliyah	Mar 2016	#26
what would it be like if	marions ghost	Mar 2016	#125
His sentiments are odious and will be rejected in the marketplace of ideas.	DemocratSinceBirth	Mar 2016	#15
Trump gets heard more than anyone else anywhere	Enrique	Mar 2016	#10
Yes.	peacebird	Mar 2016	#13
Not on D.U. --- if your posts criticize St. Hillary the Annointed, you get hidden.	Hoppy	Mar 2016	#21
No they don't	leftofcool	Mar 2016	#24
Wow - this is preposterous	oberliner	Mar 2016	#35
Sure he does. So do the protestors.	Glitterati	Mar 2016	#22
Points	DemocratSinceBirth	Mar 2016	#28
Yes.	treestar	Mar 2016	#23
Yes they do.	leftofcool	Mar 2016	#27
Yes, and we have the right to protest against those incipient fascists.	DCBob	Mar 2016	#30
Shutting down political rallies is OK?	oberliner	Mar 2016	#37
Yes, yes, and yes	Glitterati	Mar 2016	#40
False choice	oberliner	Mar 2016	#42
No, it's not.	Glitterati	Mar 2016	#49
Obviously it is	oberliner	Mar 2016	#51
Tsk, tsk, tsk, behave nicely children	Glitterati	Mar 2016	#53
Trump will not be president. The better angels of the American people will prevent that.	DemocratSinceBirth	Mar 2016	#58
Bwahahahahahaha!	Glitterati	Mar 2016	#59
Yeah, my old man was awarded a Purple Heart for being blinded in one eye and contacting malaria...	DemocratSinceBirth	Mar 2016	#63
Then you need to wake the hell up and recognize this little Hitler	Glitterati	Mar 2016	#65
The people will reject him at the ballot box.	DemocratSinceBirth	Mar 2016	#67
And, in the meantime, continue to call him out	Glitterati	Mar 2016	#70
I don't think I am one of the TSK, TSK ers...	DemocratSinceBirth	Mar 2016	#72
Yet, throughout this thread you've done EXACTLY that	Glitterati	Mar 2016	#73
You do not grasp in the slightest what American democracy is about. Trump has legitimately won	WinkyDink	Mar 2016	#109
Wow, amazing	Glitterati	Mar 2016	#110
Agree and disagree.	DemocratSinceBirth	Mar 2016	#55
Bullshit! You cannot know that. More tsk, tsk, tsk, behave children	Glitterati	Mar 2016	#56
Um, shutting down political rallies IS Fascist. And you raise a false comparison. Chicago was a	WinkyDink	Mar 2016	#102
Chickenshit Trump shut it down, NOT THE PROTESTORS	Glitterati	Mar 2016	#105
Do you not even read what you post? "Yes, yes, yes" to the question "Shutting down political rallies	WinkyDink	Mar 2016	#108
I know exactly what I said	Glitterati	Mar 2016	#113
Then your above reply to me is a non sequitur.	WinkyDink	Mar 2016	#115
That's where the balance will/should come in.	DemocratSinceBirth	Mar 2016	#41
In this case yes.	DCBob	Mar 2016	#43
Make the case without preventing him from speaking at his own events	oberliner	Mar 2016	#45
There is no defending this lunatic.	DCBob	Mar 2016	#46
Agreed	oberliner	Mar 2016	#52
I can see both sides of the argument...	DemocratSinceBirth	Mar 2016	#69
Damn right it is	MuttLikeMe	Mar 2016	#71
Undercover Nazi rallies?	oberliner	Mar 2016	#92
Thank you! No one wants to seem to give Trump a platform for him to get his message out	FlatBaroque	Mar 2016	#32
oh I get it now	Enrique	Mar 2016	#33
Not everything needs to be viewed through a Bernie v. Hillary prism	oberliner	Mar 2016	#38
of course not	Enrique	Mar 2016	#95
Free speech means the government can't shut you up or arrest you. It has nothing to do with private	m-lekktor	Mar 2016	#34
I'm always hearing on the DU about MLK	Iliyah	Mar 2016	#36
Trump has a right to speak, people have a right to protest.	JFKDem62	Mar 2016	#39
From a purely partisan perspective it's great.	DemocratSinceBirth	Mar 2016	#44
Trump is treating America like his own reality TV show.	JFKDem62	Mar 2016	#47
His devotees will love it but most Americans don't want four or eight years of chaos./nt	DemocratSinceBirth	Mar 2016	#50
You seriously underestimate the stupidity of the American ppl	MuttLikeMe	Mar 2016	#74
No and no. I just question their numbers...	DemocratSinceBirth	Mar 2016	#75
Trump decided not to speak	awake	Mar 2016	#48
+1	DCBob	Mar 2016	#93
first amend ment	artyteacher	Mar 2016	#54
Trump canceled his own rally: his speech his choice	alcibiades_mystery	Mar 2016	#57
That's what he claims but it was CPD and the Secret Service who shut it down	elehhhhna	Mar 2016	#78
CPD shut it down?	alcibiades_mystery	Mar 2016	#81
CPD did NOT do so. It was chickenshit Trump	Glitterati	Mar 2016	#86
That's what I thought...In was responding to this previous poster who said CPD shut it down	alcibiades_mystery	Mar 2016	#96
I can't turn on my tv or go online w/o hearing this windbag...	lame54	Mar 2016	#68
^^this^^	salinsky	Mar 2016	#80
What a total crock. Do you think we should have a limit to our speech?	WinkyDink	Mar 2016	#101
we already do...	lame54	Mar 2016	#106
No, you weren't speaking of "fire, theatre," blah blah. You were speaking of TIME and AMOUNT.	WinkyDink	Mar 2016	#112
I'm completely lost...	lame54	Mar 2016	#122
"He has more speech than any of us." What is "more speech" to mean, in a democracy? Are there	WinkyDink	Mar 2016	#133
then take a nap...	lame54	Mar 2016	#145
Everyone should, but there's always been that human impulse to shut people up	Hydra	Mar 2016	#77
Free speech includes inciting and encouraging violence?	noiretextatique	Mar 2016	#79
This is not a Free Speech issue. We are past that.	IdaBriggs	Mar 2016	#82
I can't beleive how stunningly anti-democracy this post is. Do you think your attitude looks good on	WinkyDink	Mar 2016	#100
If Bernie Sanders starts spewing Anti-American hate speech,	IdaBriggs	Mar 2016	#130
Conservatives have spoken enough	Matrosov	Mar 2016	#84
That's pretty darn Fascist.	WinkyDink	Mar 2016	#99
Protesters do not impede free speech	CoffeeCat	Mar 2016	#85
Yes. Everything short of the delineated "incitement to riot".	WinkyDink	Mar 2016	#87
I'd rather know what they are thinking.	raging moderate	Mar 2016	#103
I don't agree with it.	vdogg	Mar 2016	#104
Trump called it off because of the violence and potential for more. And that prudence makes him a	WinkyDink	Mar 2016	#114
Are...are you defending Trump?	vdogg	Mar 2016	#147
As long as the Government does not try to suppress his speech his Right is intact.	TalkingDog	Mar 2016	#116
"Messy"? Is that you, Donald "Democracy is messy" Rumsfeld? Man, when we start parroting Right-	WinkyDink	Mar 2016	#119
Give me a list of allowed words (ironic that) and I'll dutifully toe the line.	TalkingDog	Mar 2016	#126
It was famously uttered by Rummy; sorry you don't remember. You want IRONY? READ THIS THREAD.	WinkyDink	Mar 2016	#138
Execpt for hyperspecific words you personally find obejctionable.	TalkingDog	Mar 2016	#139
And the expected crickets	TalkingDog	Mar 2016	#144
The problem with the OP query is the clairvoyant assumption of the words "incipient Fascist."	WinkyDink	Mar 2016	#117
The Government didn't shut down his free speech.	HooptieWagon	Mar 2016	#120
There is always an exception to the rule.	Lint Head	Mar 2016	#121
THERE IS NO EXCEPTION TO THE RULE OF POLITICAL FREE SPEECH HERE.	WinkyDink	Mar 2016	#124
There are exceptions.	Lint Head	Mar 2016	#134
Agree but I'm going to go dark	JustAnotherGen	Mar 2016	#128
Yep. This is why we must endure the likes of Rush Limbaugh on the radio.	Cleita	Mar 2016	#131
I don't see this as a 1st amendment issue	gwheezie	Mar 2016	#132
See, the problem is the word "confront."	WinkyDink	Mar 2016	#136
For once, in a long time, I agree with you.	aikoaiko	Mar 2016	#135
Yes.	Lizzie Poppet	Mar 2016	#137
I am matrilineally Jewish...	DemocratSinceBirth	Mar 2016	#140
Exactly!	Lizzie Poppet	Mar 2016	#142
It does make Trump look like the chaos candidate and that's good for us...	DemocratSinceBirth	Mar 2016	#143
why is this even a question?	Macattack1	Mar 2016	#146
Of course	liberalfromaustin21	Mar 2016	#149

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