It's because they aren't reasonable. (Reply #79)

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Fri Apr 1, 2016, 11:46 AM

79. It's because they aren't reasonable.

Intelligent, perhaps, but not reasonable.

These people have no scientific expertise and yet think they know better than people who do. That's not a reasonable position to take.

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130 replies	Author	Time	Post
Why Do Many Reasonable People Doubt Science? [View all]	HuckleB	Mar 2016	OP
Because if the earth was round, we'd slide off.	Nailzberg	Mar 2016	#1
Poor science.	HuckleB	Mar 2016	#16
No such thing	Major Nikon	Apr 2016	#97
Because science isn't a priority in school curricula any more.	NV Whino	Mar 2016	#2
When I was teaching high school social studies	Bigmack	Apr 2016	#84
They are not reasonable people	malaise	Mar 2016	#3
Don't dis DRAMA!	HuckleB	Mar 2016	#4
you struck the nail on the proverbial head	TimeToEvolve	Mar 2016	#10
Precisely	malaise	Mar 2016	#24
My thoughts exactly.	we can do it	Mar 2016	#75
My own uninformed opinion is that its influenced by poor science reporting and lack...	Humanist_Activist	Mar 2016	#5
I suspect your hypothesis is worth exploring.	HuckleB	Mar 2016	#6
The media has never helped.	Archae	Mar 2016	#14
I would add movies and tv along with that	Proud Liberal Dem	Mar 2016	#35
Post removed	Post removed	Mar 2016	#7
Nice try - here's your new hat	hatrack	Mar 2016	#8
Oh, boy.	HuckleB	Mar 2016	#11
they are called the laws of thermo-fucking-dymanics!!!!!!	TimeToEvolve	Mar 2016	#12
the main graph from the Mann paper	Angel Martin	Mar 2016	#19
That's like "my cancer isn't spreading as fast as the doctors said, so I must not have cancer"	progressoid	Mar 2016	#20
No, what the data in the Mann paper means	Angel Martin	Mar 2016	#25
Volcanic activity?	Ghost Dog	Mar 2016	#27
Temperatures have more or less flatlined?	SheilaT	Mar 2016	#53
That's the mantra of denialists.	HuckleB	Mar 2016	#54
Uhhh... NO. You did not read the concluding remarks.	Adrahil	Mar 2016	#70
+1	HuckleB	Mar 2016	#71
+1 n/t	Gormy Cuss	Apr 2016	#86
Your graph is out of date	muriel_volestrangler	Mar 2016	#26
Climate science is more complex than you think. Here's is an explanation.	Chemisse	Apr 2016	#126
Reality is what's still there whether anyone believes it or not	bhikkhu	Mar 2016	#15
somebody better tell Antartica	edhopper	Mar 2016	#29
"had put something in the water"	awoke_in_2003	Mar 2016	#9
yet it is the Pb they should be worried about it.	TimeToEvolve	Mar 2016	#13
I was making a	awoke_in_2003	Mar 2016	#18
1. They're not reasonable and 2. An outsider describes it best - Richard Dawkins said	MillennialDem	Mar 2016	#17
Not so fast.	EllieBC	Mar 2016	#56
Unfortunately, many people with non-science higher educations...	HuckleB	Apr 2016	#125
The saddest aspect of life right now...	progressoid	Mar 2016	#21
+1,000... 000	HuckleB	Mar 2016	#41
also from Asimov...	alp227	Apr 2016	#101
many otherwise reasonable people have a lot invested in doubting science	0rganism	Mar 2016	#22
Answer seems simple to me. Money. There's money to be made.	Festivito	Mar 2016	#23
except the vast majority of people who deny science	edhopper	Mar 2016	#28
Conservatives don't hate facts. They don't trust facts.	DetlefK	Mar 2016	#32
good post.	edhopper	Mar 2016	#63
Didn't mean to say they did. Check out the leader's income from donations.	Festivito	Mar 2016	#49
I agree that the motivation for	edhopper	Mar 2016	#62
Because science is everywhere, but few people actually understand it.	DetlefK	Mar 2016	#30
The scientific method, I don't doubt	get the red out	Mar 2016	#31
Yes, this is a problem is science reporting.	alarimer	Mar 2016	#38
Reasonable people do not exist.	AngryAmish	Mar 2016	#33
They're not reasonable	rjsquirrel	Mar 2016	#34
Three possible reasons	whatthehey	Mar 2016	#36
Some aspect of Dunning-Kruger, possibly.	alarimer	Mar 2016	#37
Science is not about belief. nt	bemildred	Mar 2016	#39
I don't think numbers have changed, with the intertubes though every fucking idiot has a voice	snooper2	Mar 2016	#40
some of it is overreaction to exposed junk science	Amishman	Mar 2016	#42
It's amazing that the press miscovers most actual science, and then hypes the junk.	HuckleB	Mar 2016	#43
Because they don't understand it.	Avalux	Mar 2016	#44
Education in this country is in need of serious reform	seanjoycek476	Mar 2016	#45
Look how many people attack GMO foods.	former9thward	Mar 2016	#46
The article addresses that topic.	HuckleB	Mar 2016	#50
No, they have all sorts of evidence	Major Nikon	Apr 2016	#106
It's a disc on elephants riding on the Great Sky Turtle, Atuin.	GoneOffShore	Mar 2016	#47
In this country we stupidly venerate "faith" over facts.	Arugula Latte	Mar 2016	#48
It took me about 3 years to convince a friend of my who is smart that "reality TV"	LiberalArkie	Mar 2016	#51
Oh, goodness.	HuckleB	Mar 2016	#52
To begin with, science is often not very well taught in high school in the first place.	SheilaT	Mar 2016	#55
Your explanation doesn't cover the other half.	EllieBC	Mar 2016	#57
Even in non Bible belt	SheilaT	Mar 2016	#59
And a lot of it is that even the well educated	EllieBC	Mar 2016	#61
Yes. Logic and logical thinking	SheilaT	Mar 2016	#67
Because science is sometimes wrong.	kwassa	Mar 2016	#58
You've outlined the ways that pseudoscience promoters push mistrust of science.	HuckleB	Mar 2016	#64
You are incorrect, sir.	kwassa	Mar 2016	#76
And then you continue to add to the ways that pseudoscience demonizes logic and science.	HuckleB	Apr 2016	#80
I am not demonizing science at all ...	kwassa	Apr 2016	#81
Oh, goodness.	HuckleB	Apr 2016	#82
What are you talking about?	kwassa	Apr 2016	#83
You're running the pseudoscience justification module to the T.	HuckleB	Apr 2016	#85
and you are labeling my argument without supplying a cogent and coherent rebuttal.	kwassa	Apr 2016	#91
I'm not trying to rebut anything.	HuckleB	Apr 2016	#93
of course not, because your argument doesn't hold water ...	kwassa	Apr 2016	#94
You don't have an argument. The "science was wrong fallacy" is, well, a fallacy.	HuckleB	Apr 2016	#99
That wasn't my argument.	kwassa	Apr 2016	#110
It was, and I understand it perfectly well.	HuckleB	Apr 2016	#111
Well, continue on in your misbelief.	kwassa	Apr 2016	#113
You really think you can fool people that easily?	HuckleB	Apr 2016	#115
Science --> pseudoscience ? Care to give some examples ?	Bonx	Apr 2016	#95
It was recognized as non-science, or bad science, after it was disproved.	kwassa	Apr 2016	#96
But none of those were good science to begin with.	Bonx	Apr 2016	#98
They were good science for their time and place.	kwassa	Apr 2016	#108
Scientific theory =/ science	Major Nikon	Apr 2016	#107
I don't disagree.	kwassa	Apr 2016	#109
The sun may not come up tomorrow	Major Nikon	Apr 2016	#112
+1	HuckleB	Apr 2016	#116
You failed to point out that its the scientific process that corrects for these errors...	Humanist_Activist	Apr 2016	#87
True, however the history of such reversals creates doubt ....	kwassa	Apr 2016	#89
If they are doing it due to conflicting evidence or the lack of evidence, that's one thing...	Humanist_Activist	Apr 2016	#92
I agree completely.	kwassa	Apr 2016	#114
Folks have been raised to get the truth one time...	TipTok	Mar 2016	#60
We have to teach the need for challenging our own beliefs, indeed.	HuckleB	Mar 2016	#65
Thinking is hard!	yortsed snacilbuper	Mar 2016	#66
Because there is no law in nature that states people have to agree with you or use common sense.	Rex	Mar 2016	#68
Your gifs are mesmerizing.	HuckleB	Mar 2016	#73
Thanks, we have some talented gif makers!	Rex	Mar 2016	#74
Because they are not really "reason"able.	Adrahil	Mar 2016	#69
You certainly have a good point.	HuckleB	Apr 2016	#78
It goes against their reliigion!	yortsed snacilbuper	Mar 2016	#72
In the case of liberals, it's an issue of trust and conflation	chade	Mar 2016	#77
It's because they aren't reasonable.	Act_of_Reparation	Apr 2016	#79
Why do so many reasonable people think they will win the lottery when the value goes up?	Rex	Apr 2016	#88
That's where it starts.	HuckleB	Apr 2016	#120
Some believe that gut instinct is better than objective evidence	sakabatou	Apr 2016	#90
In some instances	frustrated_lefty	Apr 2016	#100
Because science doesn't have a public relations or communications arm.	cheapdate	Apr 2016	#102
You are definitely on to something here.	HuckleB	Apr 2016	#103
This is a large part of the problem, one reason it is hard to talk logic to RWingers.	Rex	Apr 2016	#117
Because they believe science is Satan's religion?	B Calm	Apr 2016	#104
Or Satan's Helper?	HuckleB	Apr 2016	#105
To some degree, the "everybody wins" mentality says that the opinion of people who	Thor_MN	Apr 2016	#118
You're spot on.	HuckleB	Apr 2016	#119
The letters to the editor are some funny if not depressing reads.	Rex	Apr 2016	#121
It's called motivated reasoning	caraher	Apr 2016	#122
A good size chunk of the population	LadyHawkAZ	Apr 2016	#123
Yeah, that does not help!	HuckleB	Apr 2016	#124
Because tomorrow's science will disprove today's science...	egduj	Apr 2016	#127
It can, but that's not necessarily so.	HuckleB	Apr 2016	#128
Science is a conservative, constructive enterprise.	longship	Apr 2016	#129
+1	HuckleB	Apr 2016	#130

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