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EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
17. I find this a bit odd
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 08:07 AM
Apr 2016

let me explain.

The DSA are much closer to "socialism" than many of the nordic model countries that Sanders references...

If you look at Denmark, a country Sanders refrences, there is basically no social ownership:

"As a result of its acclaimed "flexicurity" model, Denmark has the most free labour market in Europe, according to the World Bank. Employers can hire and fire whenever they want (flexibility), and between jobs, unemployment compensation is very high (security).[103] Establishing a business can be done in a matter of hours and at very low costs.[104] No restrictions apply regarding overtime work, which allows companies to operate 24 hours a day, 365 days a year.[103] Denmark has a competitive corporate tax rate of 24.5% and a special time-limited tax regime for expatriates.[105] The Danish taxation system is broad based, with a 25% VAT, in addition to excise taxes, income taxes and other fees. The overall level of taxation (sum of all taxes, as a percentage of GDP) is estimated to be 46% in 2011."

In fact you don't have to be in a union to work in Denmark and there's not even a legal minimum wage!

However the social safety net is VERY generous and strong.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denmark#Economy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Denmark

I'd suggest that a mix of what Sanders thinks works best in Nordic Model countries, mixed with what he thinks works best in America, is closer to his vision than what the DSA is offering. IMO.

Government has functions which it performs which is why we have organized governments 1939 Apr 2016 #1
Conservatives have had their own, very expansive, definition... JHB Apr 2016 #4
Hahahaha EdwardBernays Apr 2016 #7
Close EdwardBernays Apr 2016 #6
All the workers collectively own a factory and all collectively share the profits equally FrodosPet Apr 2016 #18
it depends who you're asking EdwardBernays Apr 2016 #19
Pedant here EdwardBernays Apr 2016 #2
+1 JHB Apr 2016 #5
If socialism had its own left-right axis forjusticethunders Apr 2016 #13
I don't disagree, except EdwardBernays Apr 2016 #14
Another helpful link... Duppers Apr 2016 #15
I find this a bit odd EdwardBernays Apr 2016 #17
You're right! Duppers Apr 2016 #23
well, you can flush a toilet if you have your own hollysmom Apr 2016 #3
Forego those Social Security "handouts" Depaysement Apr 2016 #8
Always remember who makes up the government. ileus Apr 2016 #9
Don't travel by plane... airports are "socialist" secondwind Apr 2016 #10
Or trains or buses, either... stay away from roads and bridges and tunnels provided by socialism, secondwind Apr 2016 #11
+1 Very well said. BeanMusical Apr 2016 #16
A natural disaster? You're on your own, bunky. n/t sarge43 Apr 2016 #12
Avoid using that nasty government developed internet! NT Adrahil Apr 2016 #20
Very good point...I would never use that thing ...the internet...ooppss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Stuart G Apr 2016 #21
Football stadiums also. LOL!!! pangaia Apr 2016 #22
Please, for the love of everything worthwhile, DU, stop posting nonsense! merrily Apr 2016 #24
I think the point is that this 'socialism' is a way of organizing services... peace13 Apr 2016 #27
My post specified that it was a general rant and not about the OP. merrily Apr 2016 #28
Group insurance plans are also "socialist." tclambert Apr 2016 #25
If it snows, sit it out or buy a plow! peace13 Apr 2016 #26
Here's a nice little dossier . . . . HughBeaumont Apr 2016 #29
I wish "the Government" really would "provide 911". Nye Bevan Apr 2016 #30
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