You change the subject of your poat because you were wrong: (Reply #180)

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Tue Apr 12, 2016, 11:15 AM

lewebley3 (3,412 posts)

180. You change the subject of your poat because you were wrong:

Clinton didn't sell out anyone.

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202 replies	Author	Time	Post
"If the Democratic Party would fight as hard for the Working Class ..." [View all]	Scuba	Apr 2016	OP
Neither party was ever built	DetroitSocialist83	Apr 2016	#1
Yep. The Democratic was the left and populist wing........	socialist_n_TN	Apr 2016	#4
Our Owners Have It In The Bag And They Know It	scottie55	Apr 2016	#13
Show them the money! Working class wants things but can't PAY	Baobab	Apr 2016	#61
right--that's how it backslid so quickly each time	MisterP	Apr 2016	#42
Dem's are not comunist: your post smacks of comunism: its not organized for one Ideal	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#69
Oh, no, not you again. Stick to the fascist forum.	Zephyrbag	Apr 2016	#98
Stop attacking the party be because you are supportng Sanders	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#101
Nah he should stay - perhaps he'll learn something.	GoneOffShore	Apr 2016	#113
Hasn't happened yet.	Scuba	Apr 2016	#123
And won't appear to. A Turd Way apologist and enabler.	GoneOffShore	Apr 2016	#136
Nothing bourgeoise about the Dem party: The Dem party put people	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#175
Yeah as long as the "people" have ownership of the means of production......	socialist_n_TN	Apr 2016	#187
Cummisn was crazy failure	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#188
The Iron Law of Oligarchy	TalkingDog	Apr 2016	#47
Sorry: the GOP are the Oligarchy not Hillary	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#67
The Democrats sold out too	Meteor Man	Apr 2016	#99
The never have sold out: they just reject Sanders: he is not Dem	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#103
Right	Meteor Man	Apr 2016	#105
The are :they work hard for American's and they have accomplishments	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#107
Accomplishments for the rich and powerful.	GoneOffShore	Apr 2016	#114
I'm pretty sure it's not in the sand.	Scuba	Apr 2016	#124
might be sand in the vaseline	reddread	Apr 2016	#131
Ummm, no thanks!	Scuba	Apr 2016	#132
It's not in the sand.	Enthusiast	Apr 2016	#158
I think you are wasting your time with that one	truebluegreen	Apr 2016	#167
they are some of the Dem's	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#176
Bernie is as much a Democrat as you are. nt	Live and Learn	Apr 2016	#164
Way more so	laserhaas	Apr 2016	#172
Sanders has not run as a Dem and won an office:tha'st one reason he shouldn't	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#194
Since when is any of that a requirement to be a Democrat or run for office?	Live and Learn	Apr 2016	#202
Oh Puh puck puhhllleeeaaassseee	laserhaas	Apr 2016	#171
Obamas "third term"	Plucketeer	Apr 2016	#173
We can only be so lucky to have a Obama 3rd: Hillary will not have 16%	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#174
Very true!	Silver_Witch	Apr 2016	#133
No. Dem's have never thrown workers under any bus :they have just rejecred	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#178
Ha Ha...HRC is NOT an oligarch..entitled	laserhaas	Apr 2016	#166
Hillary worked for every thing she has: and she has been	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#179
Got inside the bubble of privilege as soon as she could.	GoneOffShore	Apr 2016	#184
If what you said were true she would. a GOP party person::instead she is fighting for all the	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#190
I'm not 5he one lying to myself	laserhaas	Apr 2016	#186
Your life savings was stole by the GOP	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#189
My life savings and career destroyed bSachs & Bain fraud covered up by Corruption/ willful blindness	laserhaas	Apr 2016	#191
Bush and the GOP are to blame:	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#193
Hillary is beating Sanders because the people trust her: She helped rebuild	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#196
The same problem would result	1939	Apr 2016	#119
Reading the new Thomas Frank book and he disagrees	martigras	Apr 2016	#57
Made a deal to privatize Social Security	laserhaas	Apr 2016	#169
Agreed::The Dem party is a shape sifting enitity: reps the needs of the non GOP	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#66
The deal didn't come from trade unions: it came because the country was flat on its back:	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#71
Absolutely correct!!!!	Fantastic Anarchist	Apr 2016	#129
Truth there...	think	Apr 2016	#2
Do you really think the ruling class put all their eggs in one basket?	Skwmom	Apr 2016	#3
Nope. Better to "own" both baskets.	Scuba	Apr 2016	#8
That is the fact that most don't realize.	pangaia	Apr 2016	#19
The most recent sale was held in the '80 when the Clintons Sold the PArty to the Koch Bros	Ferd Berfel	Apr 2016	#23
+1 nt	Duval	Apr 2016	#46
The Clintion's didn't sell out anyone:they pulled 7.4m out poverty	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#74
They invented the Information Age.	DemocracyDirect	Apr 2016	#77
They created wealth for the middle class: Bush crashed everything	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#81
Unfortunately the repeal of Glass-Steagal probably had a lot to do with 2008.	DemocracyDirect	Apr 2016	#89
You're wasting keystrokes with that one.	Scuba	Apr 2016	#125
I know...	DemocracyDirect	Apr 2016	#126
Set in stone...Billy,s legacy is	laserhaas	Apr 2016	#168
Concur. Staying silent leads uniformed to believe Bull Chit.. I regret	laserhaas	Apr 2016	#198
I know. Her, mis'an and others - all love to rub salt in victims wounds	laserhaas	Apr 2016	#195
Glass-Stegal allowed the 2008 crash	Ferd Berfel	Apr 2016	#153
No the GOP crashed everything: Everything was good when Clinton left	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#197
Clinton set up the crash with	Ferd Berfel	Apr 2016	#199
No he rasied taxes on the rich: there was bank regulations:: Bush deregulated and cut taxes	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#200
You change the subject of your poat because you were wrong:	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#180
hmmm	Ferd Berfel	Apr 2016	#152
Bingo- and then distract us with things like guns, gays and abortion	Marrah_G	Apr 2016	#62
^^^THIS^^^!!!	Dustlawyer	Apr 2016	#157
The "Rothschild's Method".	Phlem	Apr 2016	#82
We were sold on the "two for one" idea clear back in 1992.	Major Hogwash	Apr 2016	#84
Good point. That would presume that their loyalty to a letter D or R is a higher priority than	GoneFishin	Apr 2016	#12
Eggzactly!	Plucketeer	Apr 2016	#51
It may very well be	PowerToThePeople	Apr 2016	#5
We can only hope.	SoapBox	Apr 2016	#10
We can only hope so........	socialist_n_TN	Apr 2016	#11
I'm sure many of you already know this, but there is a viable	KPN	Apr 2016	#30
True, but they are only active in states that allow fusion voting	eridani	Apr 2016	#109
Right. Mostly beciuase they see what Bernie saw and did --	KPN	Apr 2016	#111
No--the major opposition to fusion voting occurred in the 19th century	eridani	Apr 2016	#112
Ah. Didn't know that.	KPN	Apr 2016	#139
Nahh.... we are a two party system. that's it. What will lilely happen is the Dems will fracture	FighttheFuture	Apr 2016	#37
Highly doubtful. nt	COLGATE4	Apr 2016	#135
That's it in a nutshell. I would add that by only pretending to fight for average Americans while	GoneFishin	Apr 2016	#6
"contempt for average people"	scottie55	Apr 2016	#15
Couldn't agree more -- looking at the DNC at least.	KPN	Apr 2016	#32
It has become perfectly obvious despite the propaganda to the contrary.	Enthusiast	Apr 2016	#159
If All Democrats Truly Were Populists There Would Be No Republicans	scottie55	Apr 2016	#7
"Rocket surgery" ... I like that! Made me laugh.	KPN	Apr 2016	#33
Wrong: the GOP are about greed: as long as there is greed there will be GOP	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#78
The Turd Way Class loves their positions, power and money too.	SoapBox	Apr 2016	#9
When do they act like they care......from Eat your peas...to...welfare reform/cutting food stamp	SammyWinstonJack	Apr 2016	#31
It has been an eye opener for sure.	KPN	Apr 2016	#34
During the 30s-60s	DetroitSocialist83	Apr 2016	#14
The stuff wasn't free. It is paid for by the labor of the people. It is our opponents who call it	jtuck004	Apr 2016	#26
Absolutely true!	silverweb	Apr 2016	#60
Hey! Please drop the "free stuff" and "handing out gifts" (your upthread post) talk.	KPN	Apr 2016	#35
Sorry guys	DetroitSocialist83	Apr 2016	#48
Yeah use the sarcasm icon.......	socialist_n_TN	Apr 2016	#73
Huh?	Person 2713	Apr 2016	#44
If the DLC fought for the 99% the Rs would be powerless.	Dont call me Shirley	Apr 2016	#16
well, I think we know what the DLC is all about	Fast Walker 52	Apr 2016	#27
The 99%came from the GOP:not Clinton. he raised taxes on the rich 1%	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#75
And quite happily ushered in "Welfare Reform" and NAFTA	GoneOffShore	Apr 2016	#115
Welfare fair and NAFTA: were administer under Bush: The country was sound and debt free	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#118
Sorry no. WJC & HRC laid the groundwork for todays oligarchs.	GoneOffShore	Apr 2016	#141
Clinton laid the ground work for a great economy: Bush felt he had to give money back	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#142
So why does she support the private prison industry?	GoneOffShore	Apr 2016	#146
She. doesn't support any prison industry: your post just nonsense	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#177
She has in the past.	GoneOffShore	Apr 2016	#183
Stop with smearing lies about Hillary	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#192
You continue to not respond to questions.	GoneOffShore	Apr 2016	#201
It's now almost 24 hours and no reply to my questions. I wonder why?	GoneOffShore	Apr 2016	#156
Probably have to create a new unknown identity. Blew that one.	Enthusiast	Apr 2016	#161
The wind from Camp Weathervane blows in odd directions.	GoneOffShore	Apr 2016	#185
the biggest problem is an uniformed and brainwashed electorate that votes against its own best	Takket	Apr 2016	#17
True that !!!	pangaia	Apr 2016	#20
but of course the PTB perpetuate this system too-- and work hard to brainwash them	Fast Walker 52	Apr 2016	#29
Good point. I was really hoping Michael Moore's new	2cannan	Apr 2016	#49
Who are you to decide others are not voting their best interest: you sound like a Sanders	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#76
Year after year, decade after decade.	Major Hogwash	Apr 2016	#90
They've been brainwashed into believing the poor have it too good	Martin Eden	Apr 2016	#170
No matter where your sister found it...	ReRe	Apr 2016	#18
Right on for your sister. I agree that wherever she got it, it's good stuff. Go Bernie!	highprincipleswork	Apr 2016	#21
The Ruling Class has lot's of $$ and major media behind them. Lazy thinkers	vkkv	Apr 2016	#22
Well done.	zentrum	Apr 2016	#24
Yes, this fits with what I posted this morning	Fast Walker 52	Apr 2016	#25
K and R nt	Rebkeh	Apr 2016	#28
Before New Democrats, the Party did fight hard for workers and those who can't work.	merrily	Apr 2016	#36
The Dem party has never stopped fighting for workers: they	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#79
REALLY? They lost 3 Presidentials--Reagan was a one off, though--but they controlled Congress	merrily	Apr 2016	#120
Under Clinton there was mostly peace and prosperity: would love Hillary to be President	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#121
That's not true either. He bombed Iraq, like Poppy and Dimson and there were other	merrily	Apr 2016	#122
Clinton inherited Iraq: and chose not invade like Bush: Kosvos was Clinton,	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#143
Nope he did not inherit Iraq. It was over. He decided to bomb it all on his own.	merrily	Apr 2016	#144
Clinton contained Iraq	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#154
Memories . . light the corners of my mind . . misty water-colored memories . . of the way we were	Major Hogwash	Apr 2016	#100
The proof is in the pudding. 80 people own over half the worlds wealth. I don't think some folks	Rex	Apr 2016	#38
What we need to understand most is that it is a continuing struggle.	kristopher	Apr 2016	#39
Non-pop Dem-lite is a great gig. Lots of money. Bandaid change or two bring quick results.	Festivito	Apr 2016	#40
Frank Thomas........................."Listen Liberals"...............................	turbinetree	Apr 2016	#41
Ought to be required reading for any liberal	martigras	Apr 2016	#59
FDR.........................	turbinetree	Apr 2016	#86
Honk!	ReRe	Apr 2016	#92
Thomas Frank..................................	turbinetree	Apr 2016	#134
This is why I suspect a lot of "Hillary supporters" here are paid.	Odin2005	Apr 2016	#43
And obviously not paid enough.	GoneOffShore	Apr 2016	#150
Me too.	Enthusiast	Apr 2016	#162
The Democratic Party Elite have abandoned the Working Class years ago. nm	rhett o rick	Apr 2016	#45
+1	bobthedrummer	Apr 2016	#53
When We Stand Together - No Citizen Need Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go	cantbeserious	Apr 2016	#50
The Democratic Party, at least the faction of it that's currently in control,	The Velveteen Ocelot	Apr 2016	#52
The people who control the Dem's are people who have won elections: they should be in charge	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#87
"Put their lives on the line"?	The Velveteen Ocelot	Apr 2016	#88
You wouldn't ask that if you ever ran for office: you bash at real progressives	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#93
LOL! You want to explain to me how Hillary qualifies as a "real progressive"?	The Velveteen Ocelot	Apr 2016	#95
You wouldn't know a real progressive if one bit you on the ass.	Enthusiast	Apr 2016	#163
you should put principle before party	eniwetok	Apr 2016	#97
The party is based on principles: it is the basic idea of people 1St	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#106
Truth!	cer7711	Apr 2016	#54
Beautifully put. Thanks.	Scuba	Apr 2016	#55
This^^^!	Phlem	Apr 2016	#56
Kicked and recommended.	Uncle Joe	Apr 2016	#58
It would be GREAT if all our fellow Dems who support Hillary	Oldenuff	Apr 2016	#63
This is absolutely true, Scuba. Most voters want real Democrats to run the nation.	Enthusiast	Apr 2016	#64
There's a revolution coming.	WHEN CRABS ROAR	Apr 2016	#65
I've seen stuff from conservatives claiming Republicans are the party of the working class....	Spitfire of ATJ	Apr 2016	#68
sure... they crash wages then compensate with irresponsible tax cuts.	eniwetok	Apr 2016	#96
Dem's should be about all American'.,not just the working class: Dem's come from all walks of income	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#70
Who are you to complain about what the party has not done: What	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#72
Why are you conflating ALL Dems as one?	eniwetok	Apr 2016	#83
Hillary and.Obama have done the progressive work: the other Dem's	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#91
I hardly consider Obama or Hillary to be "Progressives"	eniwetok	Apr 2016	#94
Obama's ACA is the biggest progressive action since LBJ:	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#108
cherry picking	eniwetok	Apr 2016	#145
No cherry picking: five other President tied before hin:	lewebley3	Apr 2016	#155
it's cherrypicking because	eniwetok	Apr 2016	#181
oh come on	chillfactor	Apr 2016	#80
the leadership of BOTH parties is corrupt	Zephyrbag	Apr 2016	#104
Bernie Fans don't know how to bash the GOP	CorkySt.Clair	Apr 2016	#137
K&R...	spanone	Apr 2016	#85
why are many working class white people voting for Donald Trump over Bernie Sanders ?	JI7	Apr 2016	#102
Because they hate Mexicans more than banksters n/t	eridani	Apr 2016	#110
Totally on point! nt	Raine	Apr 2016	#116
K&R!	Lunabell	Apr 2016	#117
The party rules for the elite and the establishment's benefit need to go. The people need to	bkkyosemite	Apr 2016	#127
As much as I hate to say it...November is shaping up to...	yourout	Apr 2016	#128
"As much as I hate to say it."	CorkySt.Clair	Apr 2016	#138
woo rec number 300!!! nt	retrowire	Apr 2016	#130
So true, that's why I fully support Bernie Sanders.	B Calm	Apr 2016	#140
Supreme court nominee says it all	RedCloud	Apr 2016	#147
Yep. I was pulling for a true progressive, which would have made the Republicans wet their pants.	Scuba	Apr 2016	#148
K&R	myrna minx	Apr 2016	#149
emphasis on working class....tired of all this middle class bs...hell the walton prob think they are	dembotoz	Apr 2016	#151
Excellent post, Scuba	MissDeeds	Apr 2016	#160
Worthy post. Thanks!	FailureToCommunicate	Apr 2016	#165
"They say America needs a third party. It sure could use a second one." - Jim Hightower.	HughBeaumont	Apr 2016	#182

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